I need more build choices than just the one.

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Posted by: anduriell.6280

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Still don’t get why we have Empathic bond paste together with Wilderness Knowledge.
Why? having both in the same traitline is completely moronic design. With the condi powercreep that is being going on forcing us to go bunker is boring as hell.

While BM has 2 weapon traits in the same line. Not that Honed Axes is any good, but still nosensical .

Anet shoudl move it to BM and what about:

  • While your pet is alive, transfer one condition to your pet every 3 seconds. Your pet transfer one condition to it’s target every 5 seconds.

Also, just for the sake of diversity: Can we have the minor Fortifying Bond as baseline? , I mean otherwise if i don’t go for NM, thus and again bunker, my pet is so slow it can’t keep up with any enemy player that is under swiftness, it will no crit at all and it will not do any damage at all.

Once we are talking about pets: Why our pets do not benefit from our cleanses and evades? I don’t even mean the pet to do that magically, but at least whenever the ranger uses an stunbreak, cleanse or evade the pet should get the same effect. The pets instantly die in WvW (in pve from the dirty 90% damage mitigation is not the case any more) because they can get up to 30 stacks of fire on them because of their wonky path finding and the ranger can’t do anything to cleanse those.

If i cleanse one condition my pet should also cleanse another condition. If i cleanse 2 (WS GM) my should also. If i break stun or evade my pet should break stun or get evade frames also. I can use my evades or cleanses for me, form my pet or both but in any case i’m using my resources.

Also playing as a ranger is supposed to be all about positioning (as some dev wrote somewhere some time ago) and that’s why the ranger totally lacks stability and ranged AoE, we still have such bad weapon desings as the dagger offhand or shortbow?

Even after the buffs in shortbow still that weapon is pretty bad, and why? because it lacks any utility. Every single weapon set in the ranger needs mobility or burst. Shortbow has none of those it’s just pewpew to play from 1 to 5.
Axe or dagger is even worst.

Can they add at least a blast finisher or a leap to those weapons?

Shortbow: misses a leap and/or a blast finisher.

Sword: Sword#2 and #3 has too long and clunky cast animations. Sword#2 needs also directional arrow for the Hornet Sting. Sword#3 misses most of the time in moving targets.

Axe: This weapon needs a leap. Needs also improvements in the offhand skills, Path of scars doesn’t hit like ever and Axe#5 being rooted for a class that is about mobility and re-positioning has no sense what so ever.

Dagger: Dagger#4 is wonky as hel and has no range at all, misses most of the time because of that. Dagger#5 could be a gap closer, if it hits it shadowstep the ranger to the target for example, but it is not and it’s mostly useless.

Warhorn: Warhorn#4 could be also a blast finisher, so that weapon may give 2 blasts and the ranger doesn’t have to waste their only blast to cast unblockable for the pet.

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Posted by: Krispera.5087

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  • While your pet is alive, transfer one condition to your pet every 3 seconds. Your pet transfer one condition to it’s target every 5 seconds.

Why are our cleanses have to hurt the pet ? I mean we have Signet of Renewal that doesn’t work if your pet is not in range (make it any range from you to your pet). They already die super fast in WvW and PvP. We should call PETA at this point.

Also, just for the sake of diversity: Can we have the minor Fortifying Bond as baseline?

That would make TOO MUCH SENSE. Why are our pets not having the same boons as us ? We don’t even have a pet UI to see what buffs our pets have.

Kinda sick to go NM just for this trait. It would open so many possibilities…

Once we are talking about pets: Why our pets do not benefit from our cleanses and evades? I don’t even mean the pet to do that magically, but at least whenever the ranger uses an stunbreak, cleanse or evade the pet should get the same effect.

Again, too much sense.

Even after the buffs in shortbow still that weapon is pretty bad, and why? because it lacks any utility. Every single weapon set in the ranger needs mobility or burst. Shortbow has none of those it’s just pewpew to play from 1 to 5.

People will argue ‘’but it’s meta!’’. Yes meta raid and niche condi build, indeed…

Axe: This weapon needs a leap. Needs also improvements in the offhand skills, Path of scars doesn’t hit like ever and Axe#5 being rooted for a class that is about mobility and re-positioning has no sense what so ever.

Agree totally. Path of Scars super hard to use and Whirling Defense useless for a mobile class like ranger.

Dagger: Dagger#4 is wonky as hel and has no range at all, misses most of the time because of that. Dagger#5 could be a gap closer, if it hits it shadowstep the ranger to the target for example, but it is not and it’s mostly useless.

Dagger is actually a very sad weapon. We have Torch as the supreme condi offhand and Dagger that does nothing. Low cooldowns, but not usefull (Look I don’t care if your niche build work with Dagger, we know it’s not a good weapon)

Warhorn: Warhorn#4 could be also a blast finisher, so that weapon may give 2 blasts and the ranger doesn’t have to waste their only blast to cast unblockable for the pet.

Could give a blast, could have more targets, could become the best offhand for power ranger that want to play something else than LB, GS or Sword.

Also, every hit procc retaliation and confusion. Have fun if you’re against a condi mesmer.

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

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Dagger is actually a very sad weapon. We have Torch as the supreme condi offhand and Dagger that does nothing. Low cooldowns, but not usefull (Look I don’t care if your niche build work with Dagger, we know it’s not a good weapon)

I just want to add that dagger is a good weapon for a power build. Although it does apply 3 different conditions, Crippling Talon hits quite hard and is good for keeping your target in or at range. Stalker’s Strike is an evade and debuff, not a damaging skill. Sword/Dagger is a really solid duelling weapon pairing for a power based Ranger. Warhorn is more about support and well, as has been covered, offhand Axe is just generally pretty awful.

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Posted by: Krispera.5087

Krispera.5087

Dagger is actually a very sad weapon. We have Torch as the supreme condi offhand and Dagger that does nothing. Low cooldowns, but not usefull (Look I don’t care if your niche build work with Dagger, we know it’s not a good weapon)

I just want to add that dagger is a good weapon for a power build. Although it does apply 3 different conditions, Crippling Talon hits quite hard and is good for keeping your target in or at range. Stalker’s Strike is an evade and debuff, not a damaging skill. Sword/Dagger is a really solid duelling weapon pairing for a power based Ranger. Warhorn is more about support and well, as has been covered, offhand Axe is just generally pretty awful.

I know Dagger can be useful, but it’s outclassed by Warhorn and other off hands. Crippling Talon should do more damage, be unblockable, pierces or even bounce.

Why use Dagger in a Power set, when you can use GS instead that gives evade (1), leap/evade/mobility (3), block/knockback/throw (4) (2x damage of Crippling Talon and cripples too btw) and a daze/stun (5).

In a Sw/D set, you have no way to put Vulnerability, that’s why Warhorn then becomes better. Hunter’s Call is a fire and forget skill that need no LoS (Line of Sight, but it can be obstructed) and Call of the Wild gives unblockable to your pet.

Crippling Talon needs LoS and is projectile based. It will mostly be miss, reflected or hit something else.

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Posted by: Prophet.1584

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Dagger has it’s uses, it just doesn’t fit into a pure power or condi build because there are better choices. That’s kind of how it should be though, you have the optimal choice (axe or torch) and you have your personal choice.

in regards to OP, empatchic bond has been almost useless since the condi creep started. When someone can dump 12 conditions on you in a matter of seconds it doesn’t matter if EB can cleanse 3 every 10s. EB should be moved i agree but it also needs to be improved. SoR and EB are mostly passive cleanses, we don’t have a trait that lets us keep signet passives after use, if the pet dies or is too far they don’t work so imo these both need some changes to make them more active.

WK shold be increased to remove 3 condi’s and it would be good as well, the cooldown on all but 2 survival skills is well over 20s traited. that leaves us little to no condi cleanse and its been this way for a long time, rangers have learned to make do with what we have but more would be nice. If you go Druid you get one additional cleanse but it also gimps your dps.

SB is fine, it would be nice if they reverted the attack speed nerf but really it’s ok as is

baseline fortifying bond has been a request that’s been floated in the ranger forums for a long time, devs haven’t listened yet :shrug:

I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.

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Posted by: Eleazar.9478

Eleazar.9478

Rofl yea you’ve got some good points.
btw anyone know why rom uses axe dagger as a menders druid?

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Posted by: anduriell.6280

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Rofl yea you’ve got some good points.
btw anyone know why rom uses axe dagger as a menders druid?

For the weakness in Axe 3. He likes that.

In twich he usually uses LB. I have never seen him with melee weapons anyway.

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