Guild Wars 2

Since these forums are a bit dead, I’m bringing up something I’ve noticed recently that isn’t entirely game breaking, but is annoying me.

IMMOB is OP.

It’s a CC effect but its listed like a condi and only a condi clear will clear it.
That is all kinds of ullBhsit. I should be able to use a stability to get out of it. But it doesn’t work that way. Why? I have no idea. It breaks rules that are fundamental to the game.

Stability clears CC.

Condi clears, clear condi.

IMMOB is not a condition.

It has been like that since day one, actually is a condition because you are ABLE to cast skills at WILL while under that state, which you can’t do while stunned, Dazed, Taunted, Feared. now you got me bro?

Are you honestly trying to tell me that immobilized is not crowd control?

They’ve been wrong since day one.

In any game (yes, even gw2), being rooted is considered a Soft-CC like a blind, etc and you are ABLE to cast skills at WILL while under that state, that’s normal (yes, in any game). There are other Hard-CC that prevent you from using skills like being stunned, dazed, taunted, feared, etc. Now you got me bro?

If you can remove blind after performing an attack, why can’t we remove immobilize after using a skill that pushes us forward like warriors do? we shouldn’t need to have special traits for it.

as Jacobo Two correctly pointed out, Immobilize is a Soft CC, Stability counters Hard CCs… you don’t see Stability removing Chill, Cripple, or Slow even though those are also CC effects, because all of those are Soft CCs. And wouldn’t you know it, they are also listed as Conditions and they too can only be removed with condi clears…

It’s almost as if ANet deliberately separated Soft and Hard CCs and made them prevented/removed through different means… almost like they were trying to highlight the importance of Hard CCs…

Immob is OP?! Might want to change that thread title, half the classes fully ignore immob.

If they wanted to change immobilize, chill and cripple, instead of adding more specialized ways of dealing with it to traits and skills, they could make dodge roll cleanse them but also reduce endurance regeneration by X% for Xsec.

Thinking,

Immobilize breaking = 50% reduction over 5sec
Chill breaking = 25% over 4sec
Cripple breaking = 25% over 3sec

Overlapping in duration but stacking in intensity.

Idk random thoughts.

resistance prevents immob..

Actually immob is OP only on the druid as we don’t have cleanses for that. Other classes have plenty cleanses for the condition. Even the reaper can cleanse our ancient seeds easily.

I know it was brought up that they’ve been doing this since release…. when somethings wrong, it’s wrong. It’s been wrong since release. Soft cc , hard CC— it’s all CC and not a condi. It should of never been categorized as a condi.

Since everyone is going condition, a few speshul Rangers think it would be great to run condi in pvp on ranger and when they do, they run entangle. Seeing how my build has just enough condi clear, that immob reks me.

anyways… nothing to see here, Im out.

Oh, btw, no… warrior needs a trait for dodging for breaking inmob, thiefs too (and skills too) and i think every class has some sort of removing inmov…

EnderzShadow.2506:

I know it was brought up that they’ve been doing this since release…. when somethings wrong, it’s wrong. It’s been wrong since release. Soft cc , hard CC— it’s all CC and not a condi. It should of never been categorized as a condi.

Since everyone is going condition, a few speshul Rangers think it would be great to run condi in pvp on ranger and when they do, they run entangle. Seeing how my build has just enough condi clear, that immob reks me.

anyways… nothing to see here, Im out.

Seriously? Your only problem is entangle?

So dude save some cleanses for the immob. Or kill the roots.. It’s going to take just one swing from your GS.

I could be behind your argument if it would be about the permastun/immob from the thief… But the roots? The most useless immobilise in all the game? Seriously?

I can understand why someone is confused why stunbreaks dont work on immob, but the reason why was explained in post above mine.
But OP? Use cleanses in PvP and WvW and try not to run into roots again. Cleave the roots down if neccesary.
Dont say its OP if there are several easy ways to get arround immobs.

InsaneQR.7412:

I can understand why someone is confused why stunbreaks dont work on immob, but the reason why was explained in post above mine.
But OP? Use cleanses in PvP and WvW and try not to run into roots again. Cleave the roots down if neccesary.
Dont say its OP if there are several easy ways to get arround immobs.

Durability runes gives you a FREE OF ROOTS CARD every 20 seconds or so. Hey! Same as the ICD from ancient seeds!

Coincidence? I THINK NOT

Immobilize doesn’t interrupt skills, therefore it should be a condition as it is.
Also, this isn’t specifically a ranger issue.

Immob is not OP, its not a ranger-specific topic, and it should stay a condition.

Also, consider this before you go demanding that immobilize and other soft CCs be affected by stabilize and nolonger be classified as conditions. There are far more options for condi clenses than there are for stability. You claim it being a condition is OP, but your solution would actually buff it.

Sides due to resistance and what not, it only is kinda of reliable against kittenty revs, staff eles, rangers if you draw out their lightning reflex and pop it after they go cele form, condi teefs and Necros (which good ones will send it back to you) I would say simply due to the power creep of oh kitten buttons and resistance it’s underpowered, I mean hell if it was reliable you would see slot more rangers in big groups

I don’t run that ussyp builds when games don’t count….thereby I don’t run menders or durability runes when Im playing for fun.

I don’t demand anything, this forum is some boring af….it’s not very active so I thought I would bring up a small pet peave of mine.

If you can’t move, you’re going to get fkt sitting still with your thumb up your behind.

I can’t really tell you why it bothers me so much more now than it ever did.
I dont know if there ninja changes made I am unaware of or maybe it’s just the build I’m playing being much more affected by it. /shrug.

Its probably the last. Maybe you could mention your build?

EnderzShadow.2506:

I don’t run that ussyp builds when games don’t count….thereby I don’t run menders or durability runes when Im playing for fun.

I don’t demand anything, this forum is some boring af….it’s not very active so I thought I would bring up a small pet peave of mine.

If you can’t move, you’re going to get fkt sitting still with your thumb up your behind.

I can’t really tell you why it bothers me so much more now than it ever did.
I dont know if there ninja changes made I am unaware of or maybe it’s just the build I’m playing being much more affected by it. /shrug.

Cosidering that condiclenses are a dime a dozen… its your build… you either dont have any condi clense or your burning through it before you get immobilized… and as others mentioned if your issue is with entangle, you can simply destroy the vines to break the immobilize.

yeah it probably is the build and seeing more condi builds after patch

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