Guild Wars 2

Every Druid has already at some point used this skill. Avatar 4 provides a water field and pulses A LOT of healing. There seems to be some misunderstanding currently for how this skill actually mechanically works, and why this is probably intended design and not actually a bug as most have assumed.

So what am I actually talking about here. Rejuvenating Tides pulses 5 times. The entire skill takes 2 3/4 seconds and if you went off the tool tip you would think the skill was a channel. Rejuvenating Tides is not in fact a channeled skill. There is an initial cast time of around 1 second after which you can resume doing other things. You can cast Lunar Impact. You can leave Avatar Form and the skill will still complete. You can get cced in pvp or wvw and the skill will still complete.

So how does this tie in to the title of this post? Once you exit Avatar Form the healing that Rejuvenating Tides provides will charge your Astral Force. And this is why I believe this to be intended design. The Astral Force generation helps bring every other weapon set up to the level of Staff. Not quite on par, but close enough. Your best case scenario will see Rejuvenating Tides charge almost all the Astral Force you need. Add in some damage and you’re there. Before the 10 sec cooldown as well.

Now this may seem unbalanced, but I really don’t think it is. The design and nature of different game modes balances it out. Say you are using this trick in pvp. Often times you’re going to be hitting 1 or maybe 2 targets. The Astral Force generated from this will be pretty low. Not to mention clever and lucky opponents will CC you during the initial cast completely negating this.

Take pve on the other hand. In open world content, when you’re using LB/GS or A/T or whatever, you’ll hit 5 targets easily. You’ll be able to use Avatar Form on cooldown for it’s offensive buffs.

I’d prefer if we don’t ask for buffs to this and let it just fly under the radar. Being able to pop into CAF, cast this and then leave immediately, get 5 stacks of GotL, the heals, and be able to blast in the field is good enough.

I’m not asking for a buff. I’m explaining how it works currently. I think most people don’t realize this.

Ah. I was misled by the tittle of the post. My apologies.

Mcrocha.3891:

Ah. I was misled by the tittle of the post. My apologies.

I can see totally see that. The character limit for titles ruined my original, much clearer title.

I thought this might be a bit more click baity and therefore grab a wider audience anyway. Most Druid’s seem to be under the impression that AF is really difficult to gen without the staff and it just isn’t.

It is a bug. Expect it to be fixed. Like probably Tuesday.

Eurantien.4632:

It is a bug. Expect it to be fixed. Like probably Tuesday.

I’m inclined to think it is an erroneous tool tip, not a bug, as I’ve already explained.

Eurantien.4632:

It is a bug. Expect it to be fixed. Like probably Tuesday.

Sure hope not. Love being able to blast or leap though it.

100% a bug. Would be surprised if not fixed by Tuesday

I didn’t create this topic to start any arguments. I don’t think I’m going to change the minds of those who believe this to be a bug. Who knows, balance patch will drop tuesday and we’ll all see then.

I really just wanted to make sure that people knew about this. More importantly that folks who don’t want to use staff know about this, as it’s probably the best way currently to maximize Astral Force generation.

One final note. During the Druid reveal at Twitch Con Irenio singled out two Avatar Form skills that he felt needed work. Skill 2, which we see now has a blind on top of being a light field. Skill 4 was mentioned as well as needing more “offensive support.”

“Rejuvenating Tides: This skill now has the speed of its healing pulses affected by quickness and slow. The skill’s effects are now properly cancelled if the caster is interrupted.”

Does this change mean that rejuvenating tides no longer works as it did?

Correct.

vespers.1759:

“Rejuvenating Tides: This skill now has the speed of its healing pulses affected by quickness and slow. The skill’s effects are now properly cancelled if the caster is interrupted.”

Does this change mean that rejuvenating tides no longer works as it did?

Yes.

Ok i get the cancelled thing, but why its not working if I get out of CA form after acivating the skill. With the new regen thing druid form is just clear condis button, this is carzy.

Well that’s terrible news…

jewishjoyride.4693:

Now this may seem unbalanced, but I really don’t think it is.

I guess Anet disagreed… I’m not really surprised.

Anet did disagree. It was fun while it lasted. THAT BEING SAID ALL IS NOT LOST!!!!!!!!

lol. Overall this patch has made Druids far stronger. On paper this looked like a break even to me. But after a few matches of pvp it really feels stronger.

The biggest difference is Regeneration now builds Astral Force. I basically have Astral Form available shortly after entering a fight thanks to this, meaning I’m harder to focus. Regen also helps generate Astral Force much faster, ESPECIALLY when not using staff.

Which was why I originally started this thread. Generating Astral Force without using Staff. AF Gen is an absolute cake walk now with any weapon set in any game mode.

I also just want to say that using Rejuvenating Tides while high on Quickness is absolutely sick.