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Posted by: IBountyHunterI.4601

IBountyHunterI.4601

Alright, so if the “leaked” class changed are indeed true we are going to be losing a fair chunk of damage out of beast master builds.

So, now we have a few options you can stay as a BM and fall asleep before someone finally gets killed.
Or…you could go condition ranger.

I however chose to maybe try and conjure up a “power ranger” I based this build off of being my own damage instead of my pet, while still sustaining some pet dmg which after the patch will be less useful than it is now bear in mind.

Weapon Set
-Great sword- Superior Sigil of Flame
-Whatever you like in the main hand but war horn offhand is a must. I myself chose Axe/Warhorn

Gear
Our gear is going to be zerkers with a mix of PVT gear instead of runes.
All rings earrings etc should be zerkers. If you want more toughness or w/e Instead of spike power I suppose you could use a bit of PVT jewels.

At this point you should be in the ball park of
2300 Armor
51% Crit Chance
91%crit damage
etc..etc..

Pets
Our pets are going to be Juvenile Jungle Stalker (This is a must but we will get to that shortly)
And…really anything on the swap I would suggest a Reef Drake for the blast finisher and confusion, but its up to you.

Traits
30: I, IX, XI
25: I, VI Less pet oriented go ( II, and IX/IV depending on main hand )
5: N/A
10: V
0:

Note: you could allocate the 5 in Wilderness survival wherever else but I chose to go for a bit extra toughness and endurance regen.

Slots
Healing Spring: I feel it is our best healing utility skill, and if you are lucky Juvenile Reef Drake will blast finish it for you.

Signet of the Hunt: For the Active effect.

Signet of the wild: Active effect

Signet of Stone: Active effect.

Rampage As One: For boons pretty much. If you are in a group situation Entangle works just as well.

Basically, this build is going to centre around the Greatswords no.2 skill “maul”

Before entering combat use jungle stalkers f2 which will grant you might, be patient its a long animation, sometimes it wont even activate but such is the situation with pet AI etc. Tl:DR this will give you might

Once you have selected your target use war horn 5, hit Rampage as one, then signet of the wild, signet of the hunt, then maul on the great sword. You should be seeing some nasty numbers fly off your target.

I believe at this point in time my highest has been 15k But usually its around a 7k-9k maul depending on how tanky your target is and whether or not you hit them from a flank. The last thing you have to do is finish off your target through whatever means possible, warhorn 4 is always some nice to deal additional dmg and annoy the hell out of someone. If you get in trouble use signet of stone for a 6s invuln and your healing spring.

In the end you can do some killer damage, but will be fairly susceptible to conditions so you really need to check yourself before you wreck yourself with this build and be on your toes!

Foods: I use sharpening stones personally I like the extra power and I use either Bowl of Butternut Squash soup, OR mango pie for some health regen. Again this is a decision based upon more survivability or dmg and can be situational.

I don’t know what else to tell you guys other than this has been working for me fairly well this past week both in Spvp ( which uses scholar runes if you want to try it) and WvW small group/ roaming

It may not be perfect and can be considered rather a “glass cannon” build but it sure can be punishing to HP pools if you play it correctly. So take this as you will it is FAR from being a build that I have 100% refined and is definitely still in a testing phase. I like many others are just thinking of alternative builds to Bunkering with your pet.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

There’s too many things that make me think they’re NOT real to make me prep for them. The top 3 things are:

1) Burning on crit being available in the necromancer POWER tree instead of their condo/crit tree, and Axe Mastery, which increases all their axe damage by 20% AND reduces the CD on it by 20% to a kittening master trait, i mean wut.

2) Tail Swipe and Poison Field combos Weakness not even touched, there’s NO WAY Anet is going to allow an AoE 5s of Weakness and a single target 8s Weakness to stay there when they flat out said all weakness is going to have to come down.

3) Signet of Illusion now working as the community wants it to, despite the fact Anet themselves have flat out said they CAN NOT make it work that way due to tech limitations.

Don’t get your hopes up guys, it looks like someone with way too much time on their hands just made some trollsy notes, if it ends up being true i’m going to be kittening baffledawrfed at some of these things…

EDIT: Oh yeah, going BM would essentially be worthless in the next patch since just about every pet in the game is being nerfed by like 30%, i mean really? Anet isn’t going to smash our pets in the face -that- badly without giving us some pretty major DPS increases on our own skills.

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: IBountyHunterI.4601

IBountyHunterI.4601

I can only hope you are correct that they are not real patch notes.

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Posted by: Ray.3780

Ray.3780

Durzlla – see Engineer, burning on crit is in the power tree, Ranger, bleed on crit, crit tree .. there is no uniform thing.

that said, I’m not convinced they’re real but they could be a couple weeks old.

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Posted by: Substance E.4852

Substance E.4852

There’s too many things that make me think they’re NOT real to make me prep for them. The top 3 things are:

1) Burning on crit being available in the necromancer POWER tree instead of their condo/crit tree, and Axe Mastery, which increases all their axe damage by 20% AND reduces the CD on it by 20% to a kittening master trait, i mean wut.

2) Tail Swipe and Poison Field combos Weakness not even touched, there’s NO WAY Anet is going to allow an AoE 5s of Weakness and a single target 8s Weakness to stay there when they flat out said all weakness is going to have to come down.

3) Signet of Illusion now working as the community wants it to, despite the fact Anet themselves have flat out said they CAN NOT make it work that way due to tech limitations.

Don’t get your hopes up guys, it looks like someone with way too much time on their hands just made some trollsy notes, if it ends up being true i’m going to be kittening baffledawrfed at some of these things…

EDIT: Oh yeah, going BM would essentially be worthless in the next patch since just about every pet in the game is being nerfed by like 30%, i mean really? Anet isn’t going to smash our pets in the face -that- badly without giving us some pretty major DPS increases on our own skills.

Nothing in the notes at this point makes me go “nah, no way Anet would do that”, not after our water buffs and all the silly kitten they did in GW1.

As far as not touching the weakness on tail swipe, I have a feeling they might not even be aware it does that since it isn’t listed in the tool tip and it took them this long just to figure out the Rainbow and Blue Jellyfish were the exact same pet.

They could also be completely bogus, Anet has remained silent so far but they have said that pets will be getting a damage nerf (because massively reducing leash range in spvp was just too dang hard) so that’s going to happen one way or another.

I like to hope that they will compensate us but I know I’m not the only one still waiting for the damage on the Sb that went ‘poof’ a while back.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

Durzlla – see Engineer, burning on crit is in the power tree, Ranger, bleed on crit, crit tree .. there is no uniform thing.

that said, I’m not convinced they’re real but they could be a couple weeks old.

Those are both adept traits, not a grand master trait, and an on crit bleed in the CRIT TREE makes sense, an on crit burn in the grand master slot of a power tree does not.

And I’m almost positive they know the weakness is on tail swipe seeing as how it’s been their since beta….

Oh yeah, they add a new condition that’s weaker than bleeds unless a condition is met that stacks in INTENSITY but only 3 skills apply it? One of which is a block, that just makes no sense at all.

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: kekuso.5837

kekuso.5837

1) Burning on crit being available in the necromancer POWER tree instead of their condo/crit tree, and Axe Mastery, which increases all their axe damage by 20% AND reduces the CD on it by 20% to a kittening master trait, i mean wut.

This makes sense, since that traitline also gives cond. duration, which would make their burns have a high up-time…also, I think ArenaNet is forcing necros to stop speccing purely into toughness/cond. dmg. Rather, they will have to go for power/precision/cond.dmg, which will reduce their survivability but they already have the most vitality in the game and 2 health bars so necro will be in a good place…maybe even OP for the first few weeks.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

1) Burning on crit being available in the necromancer POWER tree instead of their condo/crit tree, and Axe Mastery, which increases all their axe damage by 20% AND reduces the CD on it by 20% to a kittening master trait, i mean wut.

This makes sense, since that traitline also gives cond. duration, which would make their burns have a high up-time…also, I think ArenaNet is forcing necros to stop speccing purely into toughness/cond. dmg. Rather, they will have to go for power/precision/cond.dmg, which will reduce their survivability but they already have the most vitality in the game and 2 health bars so necro will be in a good place…maybe even OP for the first few weeks.

Keep in mind I’m not saying that the BURNING is the problem, it’s the application, if anything it’ll be more like Keen Edge, or Target The Weak(is that it?) where if X condition is met (IE they have a condi, or the enemy is low health, or some other trait that a power tree can meet without too much issue) then it’s make sense, but critting? Just doesn’t make sense to have a grandmaster to do that.

Oh yeah, their DS 5 skill isn’t as was described.

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

Oh yeah, did I mention that Death Shroud 5 in the patch notes is calledDark Binding where Anet has flat out said its called Tainted Shackles?

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Posted by: ProxyDamage.9826

ProxyDamage.9826

I’ve basically been playing this build, give or take, since buffed signets, but with all the nerfs, if they’re true, it’s just not worth it. Especially as shortbow was a big part of it.

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Posted by: Terkov.4138

Terkov.4138

@Durzulla
They are real. Some things can change just before 25th, but mostly they are true. Trust me

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

Chopps.5047

@Durzulla
They are real. Some things can change just before 25th, but mostly they are true. Trust me

Why should we trust you?

Tin Foil Hat Hearer »—> Ranger Extraordinaire »—> “Be like water…”

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

@Durzulla
They are real. Some things can change just before 25th, but mostly they are true. Trust me

Why should we trust you?

This, and the whole, “I’m an alpha tester, so trust me it’s real!” Nonsense doesn’t fly for me, I need something more substantial than that.

I mean, for kittens sakes I could be running around saying “it’s bull kitten, trust me I’m in Alpha!”

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

Chopps.5047

@Durzulla
They are real. Some things can change just before 25th, but mostly they are true. Trust me

Why should we trust you?

This, and the whole, “I’m an alpha tester, so trust me it’s real!” Nonsense doesn’t fly for me, I need something more substantial than that.

I mean, for kittens sakes I could be running around saying “it’s bull kitten, trust me I’m in Alpha!”

You’re not alpha! You are Dolyak!

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Posted by: Terkov.4138

Terkov.4138

I’m not going to prove anything. Sorry I tried to help. Just remember about me when update is out.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

I’m not going to prove anything. Sorry I tried to help. Just remember about me when update is out.

shrugs if you end up being right you’re right, and i’ll take that into account next time “leaked” notes come around xD

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: Mcrocha.3891

Mcrocha.3891

I’m not going to prove anything. Sorry I tried to help. Just remember about me when update is out.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. When the patch does come out and if you turn out to be right it means nothing, so sorry I will not remember you.

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

Chopps.5047

I’m not going to prove anything. Sorry I tried to help. Just remember about me when update is out.

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. When the patch does come out and if you turn out to be right it means nothing, so sorry I will not remember you.

Terkov probably leaked it. ANET THE CULPRIT IS RIGHT HERE lol

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

I’m quite surprised Durzlla considers the leaked changes fake because some of the changes make no sense. It’s ANet. How are your expectations still this high? My expectations are as low as they can be and they’re living right up to it, as usual.

The list may be dated or incomplete, but it definitely has ANet written all over it. They announce with trumpets of upcomming changes in all trait lines and deliver it by nerfing builds that were used and by skipping a few trait lines.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

I’m quite surprised Durzlla considers the leaked changes fake because some of the changes make no sense. It’s ANet. How are your expectations still this high? My expectations are as low as they can be and they’re living right up to it, as usual.

The list may be dated or incomplete, but it definitely has ANet writen all over it. They announce with trumpets of upcomming changes in all trait lines and deliver it by nerfing builds that were used and by skipping a few trait lines.

I’m a glass is half full kinda guy, i’ve said it in a few posts that i -do- like a lot of the changes, but something seems off about the notes, and as other people have said “Anyone whose played GW for X amount of time knows these are real!” which means that anyone whose played GW for X amount of time and is a trixy person who likes to cause chaos (like myself) would be able to make fake notes and send them out there to cause all the chaos that’s been going on these forums.

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: Substance E.4852

Substance E.4852

@Durzulla
They are real. Some things can change just before 25th, but mostly they are true. Trust me

Why should we trust you?

This, and the whole, “I’m an alpha tester, so trust me it’s real!” Nonsense doesn’t fly for me, I need something more substantial than that.

I mean, for kittens sakes I could be running around saying “it’s bull kitten, trust me I’m in Alpha!”

I’m sure anet doesn’t make their testers sign an NDA and sure wouldn’t enforce it on a forum where your account name is your user name.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

@Durzulla
They are real. Some things can change just before 25th, but mostly they are true. Trust me

Why should we trust you?

This, and the whole, “I’m an alpha tester, so trust me it’s real!” Nonsense doesn’t fly for me, I need something more substantial than that.

I mean, for kittens sakes I could be running around saying “it’s bull kitten, trust me I’m in Alpha!”

I’m sure anet doesn’t make their testers sign an NDA and sure wouldn’t enforce it on a forum where your account name is your user name.

I’m sure anet isn’t dumb enough to not notice people going around on the forum “confirming” patch notes without flat out saying “I’m in alpha trust me they’re right”.

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: Substance E.4852

Substance E.4852

@Durzulla
They are real. Some things can change just before 25th, but mostly they are true. Trust me

Why should we trust you?

This, and the whole, “I’m an alpha tester, so trust me it’s real!” Nonsense doesn’t fly for me, I need something more substantial than that.

I mean, for kittens sakes I could be running around saying “it’s bull kitten, trust me I’m in Alpha!”

I’m sure anet doesn’t make their testers sign an NDA and sure wouldn’t enforce it on a forum where your account name is your user name.

I’m sure anet isn’t dumb enough to not notice people going around on the forum “confirming” patch notes without flat out saying “I’m in alpha trust me they’re right”.

The funny thing is, the fact that they have taken no stance on it makes me think there must be at least some truth to them since it would cost them nothing to disprove a lie but it makes them look mighty stupid to say they are fake only to roll out a patch that is oddly similar.

I can’t help but think that they may at least be an early draft of the update and not the finished product.

And I was mostly being sarcastic in that they wouldn’t let anyone, players especially, say things like “they’re real” or “they are on the test server” on their own forums if they were really in a position to know for a fact.

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Posted by: Buttercup.5871

Buttercup.5871

My preparation for the next patch is that I’m levelling a mesmer.

Don’t get me wrong, my ranger was my main since beta, I’ve put about 2500 gold into her, she has everything. But with these patch notes in sight, even if they’re only partially implemented, I’ve come to realise (i) she will always be outmatched in everything she does by other classes, (ii) Arenanet doens’t want her to excel in anything, or be able to reliably match the DPS of other classes.

So after 10 months, and seeing these notes, I’ve finally given up.