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Posted by: Kitty.1502

Kitty.1502

So HoT is coming within the month, and I am left here wondering if I want to stay with a ranger as my main. It would be nice if the devs (Irenio and anyone else) would let us know if they plan to fix the critical core issues of the core ranger (pets) within the next three months. Would like to know this to inform my decision if it is time to change my main or if there is hope that core ranger will see improvements. I don’t need details, but would like to know if its just time to move on.

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Posted by: lxghostxl.5097

lxghostxl.5097

So HoT is coming within the month, and I am left here wondering if I want to stay with a ranger as my main. It would be nice if the devs (Irenio and anyone else) would let us know if they plan to fix the critical core issues of the core ranger (pets) within the next three months. Would like to know this to inform my decision if it is time to change my main or if there is hope that core ranger will see improvements. I don’t need details, but would like to know if its just time to move on.

the new pets have allot of good things and they are the only reason why I am still playing as a Ranger never the droods tho. don’t limit your self here and go make a different class like Revenant and play both until something good really happens to Rangers, even if it takes 3 more years at least you have another class that will keep you occupied.

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Posted by: Kitty.1502

Kitty.1502

So HoT is coming within the month, and I am left here wondering if I want to stay with a ranger as my main. It would be nice if the devs (Irenio and anyone else) would let us know if they plan to fix the critical core issues of the core ranger (pets) within the next three months. Would like to know this to inform my decision if it is time to change my main or if there is hope that core ranger will see improvements. I don’t need details, but would like to know if its just time to move on.

the new pets have allot of good things and they are the only reason why I am still playing as a Ranger never the droods tho. don’t limit your self here and go make a different class like Revenant and play both until something good really happens to Rangers, even if it takes 3 more years at least you have another class that will keep you occupied.

While the new pets have a wonderful theme (omg I do love the fire wyvern) they don’t address the issue with pets, that is with hitting people in spvp and surviving in wvw and a lesser extent pve. This issue is critical and one of the biggest issues why ranger is one of the worst classes in the game for all forms of content. Druid is a nice theme, and I will be running a healing druid for wvw zergs, and pve raids, but I am tired of waiting for core ranger to be fixed.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

People aren’t learning from history. I don’t know why people think he’s going to single handedly save the profession. The past week or two this forum has been completely swamped in dozens of threads with that assumption. He’s the public face of druid is pretty much all we know, he’s not the founder, CEO and Chairman of the Board of Arena Net®.

Many of us have learned to not wait around for a ranger fix. We’ve been here for several years. It sometimes gets better, it sometimes get worse, but we’re literally never, ever, ever going to be a top profession.

If you can’t play ranger as it is, and aren’t a masochist like the rest of us, definitely make a new main.

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Posted by: Kitty.1502

Kitty.1502

People aren’t learning from history. I don’t know why people think he’s going to single handedly save the profession. The past week or two this forum has been completely swamped in dozens of threads with that assumption. He’s the public face of druid is pretty much all we know, he’s not the founder, CEO and Chairman of the Board of Arena Net®.

Many of us have learned to not wait around for a ranger fix. We’ve been here for several years. It sometimes gets better, it sometimes get worse, but we’re literally never, ever, ever going to be a top profession.

If you can’t play ranger as it is, and aren’t a masochist like the rest of us, definitely make a new main.

Really thought things can change, but they won’t. ArenaNet doesn’t care about core ranger it is abundantly apparently as they have yet to really engage the community about the core ranger which is in a broken state.

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Posted by: mistsim.2748

mistsim.2748

it really has little to do with pets. that’s just a SMALL part of what needs fixing. core ranger has 4 unusable weapons, almost a dozen unusable utilities, half a dozen bad traits, and yes, a bunch of bad pets.

the core ranger will literally be eaten for breakfast by the elite specs come launch, while the druid might have a niche role or two. we just don’t have the “new tech”, we don’t have the tools to fight em. we’re working with baggage from the days of vanilla release.

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Posted by: Gotejjeken.1267

Gotejjeken.1267

it really has little to do with pets. that’s just a SMALL part of what needs fixing. core ranger has 4 unusable weapons, almost a dozen unusable utilities, half a dozen bad traits, and yes, a bunch of bad pets.

the core ranger will literally be eaten for breakfast by the elite specs come launch, while the druid might have a niche role or two. we just don’t have the “new tech”, we don’t have the tools to fight em. we’re working with baggage from the days of vanilla release.

Right. Which is why I’m going to play the heck out of GW2 until launch….then quit until they fix the Ranger. As once HoT launches WvW will never be the same again (for the worse).

Druid is really a compounding problem on the Ranger. The core is broken, adding a niche spec isn’t helping things.

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Posted by: Kitty.1502

Kitty.1502

it really has little to do with pets. that’s just a SMALL part of what needs fixing. core ranger has 4 unusable weapons, almost a dozen unusable utilities, half a dozen bad traits, and yes, a bunch of bad pets.

the core ranger will literally be eaten for breakfast by the elite specs come launch, while the druid might have a niche role or two. we just don’t have the “new tech”, we don’t have the tools to fight em. we’re working with baggage from the days of vanilla release.

While I won’t disagree that the weapons in general all need to be fixed, we have 30% of our dps trapped in the pet, and it is very unreliable. Fixing pets is the most major/serious thing for the core ranger. The weapons are major but just not on the same level.

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

infantrydiv.1620

Although I think Irenio is a good dev, and is doing a good job with Druid so far, the WHaO change and rapid nerf showed me that the devs dont really understand, or have a vision for, Ranger.

Ranger//Necro

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Posted by: mistsim.2748

mistsim.2748

it really has little to do with pets. that’s just a SMALL part of what needs fixing. core ranger has 4 unusable weapons, almost a dozen unusable utilities, half a dozen bad traits, and yes, a bunch of bad pets.

the core ranger will literally be eaten for breakfast by the elite specs come launch, while the druid might have a niche role or two. we just don’t have the “new tech”, we don’t have the tools to fight em. we’re working with baggage from the days of vanilla release.

While I won’t disagree that the weapons in general all need to be fixed, we have 30% of our dps trapped in the pet, and it is very unreliable. Fixing pets is the most major/serious thing for the core ranger. The weapons are major but just not on the same level.

in pvp, the pet is maybe 10% of my dps. but I understand why this issue is greater for pve.

in pvp, we just need all pets to have useful F2’s.

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Posted by: Kitty.1502

Kitty.1502

it really has little to do with pets. that’s just a SMALL part of what needs fixing. core ranger has 4 unusable weapons, almost a dozen unusable utilities, half a dozen bad traits, and yes, a bunch of bad pets.

the core ranger will literally be eaten for breakfast by the elite specs come launch, while the druid might have a niche role or two. we just don’t have the “new tech”, we don’t have the tools to fight em. we’re working with baggage from the days of vanilla release.

While I won’t disagree that the weapons in general all need to be fixed, we have 30% of our dps trapped in the pet, and it is very unreliable. Fixing pets is the most major/serious thing for the core ranger. The weapons are major but just not on the same level.

in pvp, the pet is maybe 10% of my dps. but I understand why this issue is greater for pve.

in pvp, we just need all pets to have useful F2’s.

in pvp we are balanced around the pet being 30% of our dps. It doesn’t even provide 5% of our dps atm. This is why they are broken for pvp.

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Posted by: Llethander.3972

Llethander.3972

in pvp, the pet is maybe 10% of my dps. but I understand why this issue is greater for pve.

in pvp, we just need all pets to have useful F2’s.

in pvp we are balanced around the pet being 30% of our dps. It doesn’t even provide 5% of our dps atm. This is why they are broken for pvp.

Pretty much this. For me, in PvP, my pet tends to be 0% of my DPS because of how quickly it succumbs to AoE and cleaves on its way to its intended target.

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Posted by: Kitty.1502

Kitty.1502

in pvp, the pet is maybe 10% of my dps. but I understand why this issue is greater for pve.

in pvp, we just need all pets to have useful F2’s.

in pvp we are balanced around the pet being 30% of our dps. It doesn’t even provide 5% of our dps atm. This is why they are broken for pvp.

Pretty much this. For me, in PvP, my pet tends to be 0% of my DPS because of how quickly it succumbs to AoE and cleaves on its way to its intended target.

Pets don’t even hit if they don’t die. Video evidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBZtYUa-pLg
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7DWcU3ULtw

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Posted by: Wildfang.3271

Wildfang.3271

in pvp, the pet is maybe 10% of my dps. but I understand why this issue is greater for pve.

in pvp, we just need all pets to have useful F2’s.

in pvp we are balanced around the pet being 30% of our dps. It doesn’t even provide 5% of our dps atm. This is why they are broken for pvp.

Pretty much this. For me, in PvP, my pet tends to be 0% of my DPS because of how quickly it succumbs to AoE and cleaves on its way to its intended target.

Pets don’t even hit if they don’t die. Video evidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBZtYUa-pLg
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7DWcU3ULtw

And in the meantime, you get ppl claiming that landing taunt is extremely easy despite all those pathing issues and our pets should hit for even less damage due to them being AI based.

Anyway, I don’t think that much will be changed for rangers. Traps/spirits are most likely staying the way they are now. The elite spec, druid will only serve to push rangers further into being a niche class that wouldn’t be good for anything much other than healing if ANET decides that one needs a lot of investment into healing power to get anything much out of the spec.

I’m thinking that things will be rough for rangers in pvp come HoT. Almost every profession get access to projectile destruction/reflection which will make marauder LB ranger not too viable while going pure melee can be highly risky against elite specs like reaper.

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Posted by: Leodon.1564

Leodon.1564

People aren’t learning from history. I don’t know why people think he’s going to single handedly save the profession. The past week or two this forum has been completely swamped in dozens of threads with that assumption. He’s the public face of druid is pretty much all we know, he’s not the founder, CEO and Chairman of the Board of Arena Net®.

Many of us have learned to not wait around for a ranger fix. We’ve been here for several years. It sometimes gets better, it sometimes get worse, but we’re literally never, ever, ever going to be a top profession.

If you can’t play ranger as it is, and aren’t a masochist like the rest of us, definitely make a new main.

As you mentioned, you learn from history instead of hoping for something different, and was planning on playing a Revenant instead of Ranger for PVE once HoT released. Druid reveal got me excited enough though that I canceled my plans on switching PVE mains.

Unfortunately, history has repeated itself and the Ranger class got the least amount of attention and the Druid shows it imo as it feels only about 50-60% as polished as some of the other elites. (Chronomancer for example feels about 90% polished and really about the best Mesmers could have asked for.)

The reality is that even if Druid gets more attention beyond HoT, it will take months if not years for it to get to the polished state that I’m looking for now that betas are over, so will probably make the switch to try out Rev and keep Ranger on the backburner once HoT releases.

Faye Oren – Mesmer
Lee Oren – Ranger
Eve Oren – Revenant

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

So HoT is coming within the month, and I am left here wondering if I want to stay with a ranger as my main. It would be nice if the devs (Irenio and anyone else) would let us know if they plan to fix the critical core issues of the core ranger (pets) within the next three months. Would like to know this to inform my decision if it is time to change my main or if there is hope that core ranger will see improvements. I don’t need details, but would like to know if its just time to move on.

Don’t worry, it’d be all nerf throughout the first 3 months, because whenever ranger gets something, Roy, along with other non ranger players will all jump, and then Roy will nerf it to the ground. This has been proven by history.