Guild Wars 2

This is the only class that has access to this type of CC so far.

As of right now, it is un-blockable and un-evadable. Is it supposed to be like that?

Untill a dev gives us a confirmation it is hard to tell, especially since they were supposed to have fixed it or some of it in the later patches.
Some claim you cant dodge out of it halfway before it lands, that may sound like a bug, but again we dont know.

History says fixing ranger bugs takes time.

Rangers are not not the only class with taunt, mesmers got it – https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_of_Anguish
and also Revenant.
If its working as intended? No one knows for sure, A.net looked at it in one of the recent patches and saied its working as intended.
“Beastly Warden: Fixed an issue that allowed players to taunt targets that should not have been affected.”(July 7, 2015)
If you ask me, this CC in under close watch and we might see some changes until HOT release.

Mirror of Anguish currently only reflects the Pet’s taunt back to it. Since pets never dodge or block, there is currently no way to tell if it works the same way.

The upcoming BWE will bring the chance to play Revenants again, so there is some time to test if it’s taunt in general or only Beastly Warden. In both cases i don’t think it’s ok for a 15s cd skill to work through both evades and blocks, preventing weapon swap and even work while the ranger is downed (though this is more a general issue with F2 skills working while downed).

You can’t block or (skill)evade it, but you can dodgeRoll it.

Iavra.8510:

even work while the ranger is downed (though this is more a general issue with F2 skills working while downed).

Calling it a “general issue” just makes you look really shortsighted.

Lazze.9870:

Iavra.8510:

even work while the ranger is downed (though this is more a general issue with F2 skills working while downed).

No, it’s not. But I’d be happy to see you prove me wrong.

For the alst week it does working while u’r downed.

LughLongArm.5460:

Lazze.9870:

Iavra.8510:

even work while the ranger is downed (though this is more a general issue with F2 skills working while downed).

No, it’s not. But I’d be happy to see you prove me wrong.

For the alst week it does working while u’r downed

He was implying that ranger shouldn’t be able to control their pets in down state like they’re currently able to. Which is not only shortsighted, but if anything, rangers needs more control of their pets.

But that’s another topic.

Like i wrote, that’s more of a general issue with rangers having 2 ways to prevent stomps, while everyone else has only 1 (that is instantly available after getting downed).

But yes, let’s not derail the thread here, this is about taunt.

Iavra.8510:

Like i wrote, that’s more of a general issue with rangers having 2 ways to prevent stomps, while everyone else has only 1 (that is instantly available after getting downed).

But yes, let’s not derail the thread here, this is about taunt.

Actually, Ranger has a lot more than that and it is all working as intended.

we’re good on our backs, because we spend a lot of time on them.

…wait…

Can you link a vid where we can exactly see that Taunt can’t be evaded or blocked? Cause so far, I see exactly the opossite.

It’s not mine, but i found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apOXAWbOC0c

I see, in that case there should be some list of skills which taunt goes over and it shoudln’t. So far it seems, that evade skills don’t work agaisnt taunt? Can that be?

I didn’t really test it, but I am honnestly certain that I dodged taunt and taunt doesn’t work against shield blocking skills, renewed focus, obsidian flesh and similiar skills.

Miyu.8137:

I see, in that case there should be some list of skills which taunt goes over and it shoudln’t. So far it seems, that evade skills don’t work agaisnt taunt? Can that be?

I didn’t really test it, but I am honnestly certain that I dodged taunt and taunt doesn’t work against shield blocking skills, renewed focus, obsidian flesh and similiar skills.

Works vs blocks and skill evades, doesnt work vs dodge rolls and Invulnerability skills that prevent conditions.

There used to be this, too, but i’m not sure if it has been fixed since it’s already 1 month old: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI5yxAIoDD8

/edit: Probably has been fixed.

Ok after doing alot of testing here’s sort of the run-down list of what taunt works and doesn’t work with:

Works with:

1. Weapon evade skills: Ranger GS swoop, Mesmer blurred frenzy, Sword #3 thief, etc
2. Dodge rolling – yes , taunt does work with dodge rolls, we spent about 30 minutes testing it at precise moments with bird pets and it does indeed work against dodge rolls.
3. Blocks , any blocks – Warrior block , Engineer block , Ele Shield

Doesn’t work with:

1. Stability
2. Invulnerability
3. Blinded pets

So it’s indeed broken right now, and should probably be fixed or we should atleast get a clarification on what it works and doesn’t work with by a dev. My assumption is they released a patch weeks prior that ‘fixed’ it but it really only fixed a couple things, which was going through invulns and stability. I’m pretty sure they’ll have it fixed soon though to not go through evades / blocks.

Thanks for pointing this out, but you might get a faster response from a dev if you post it into the actual bug forums too just to be sure.

blitzkrieg.2451:

Ok after doing alot of testing here’s sort of the run-down list of what taunt works and doesn’t work with:

Works with:

1. Weapon evade skills: Ranger GS swoop, Mesmer blurred frenzy, Sword #3 thief, etc
2. Dodge rolling – yes , taunt does work with dodge rolls, we spent about 30 minutes testing it at precise moments with bird pets and it does indeed work against dodge rolls.
3. Blocks , any blocks – Warrior block , Engineer block , Ele Shield

Doesn’t work with:

1. Stability
2. Invulnerability
3. Blinded pets

So it’s indeed broken right now, and should probably be fixed or we should atleast get a clarification on what it works and doesn’t work with by a dev. My assumption is they released a patch weeks prior that ‘fixed’ it but it really only fixed a couple things, which was going through invulns and stability. I’m pretty sure they’ll have it fixed soon though to not go through evades / blocks.

Thanks for pointing this out, but you might get a faster response from a dev if you post it into the actual bug forums too just to be sure.

It also doesn’t work with diamond skin ele (if he’s above hp threshold) and berserker’s stance on warr. Since taunt is now technically a condi. You also don’t need to stun break it if you’re on ele. Just cleanse it.

I noticed that taunt neither stops channeled abilities, nor does it change the target of those abilities. I could be wrong, but I noticed this quite a few times already.

Lettuce.2945:

It also doesn’t work with diamond skin ele (if he’s above hp threshold) and berserker’s stance on warr. Since taunt is now technically a condi. You also don’t need to stun break it if you’re on ele. Just cleanse it.

Taunt never was condition, no clue where did you come to this. Taunt always was control efect skill.
" Taunt is a control effect that forces the affected target to run towards the source of taunt with all skills except stun breakers disabled while using their auto-attack skill."

Miyu.8137:

Lettuce.2945:

It also doesn’t work with diamond skin ele (if he’s above hp threshold) and berserker’s stance on warr. Since taunt is now technically a condi. You also don’t need to stun break it if you’re on ele. Just cleanse it.

Taunt never was condition, no clue where did you come to this. Taunt always was control efect skill.
" Taunt is a control effect that forces the affected target to run towards the source of taunt with all skills except stun breakers disabled while using their auto-attack skill."

Same as fear, its a control effect, but also a condition, affected by condi duration and can be cleansed.

nacario.9417:

History says fixing ranger bugs takes time.

Depends in whose favour it is. Old GS fury? Recent Clarion Bond? These didn’t take long somehow.

cafard.8953:

nacario.9417:

History says fixing ranger bugs takes time.

Depends in whose favour it is. Old GS fury? Recent Clarion Bond? These didn’t take long somehow.

Yeah, yet Warrior can still stack 25 might in seconds with a banner and versatile power. I don’t get it, why don’t they just put an ICD on it like our traits? eh?

Lettuce.2945:

Since taunt is now technically a condi. You also don’t need to stun break it if you’re on ele. Just cleanse it.

Are you able to switch to water, though? Taunt prevents weaponswap (probably also a bug), so i’m not sure this would work.

Wuselknusel.4082:

I noticed that taunt neither stops channeled abilities, nor does it change the target of those abilities. I could be wrong, but I noticed this quite a few times already.

Could be true, I was ressing someone who then was about to get downed, I taunted the guy going for a stomp but it didnt interrupt his ongoing channel cast

But Blurred Frenzy is also channeled and gets interrupted, so this would be yet another bug.

Iavra.8510:

But Blurred Frenzy is also channeled and gets interrupted, so this would be yet another bug.

Yes! it have to interrupt Blurred Frenzy also!

Taunt is supposed to go through blocks. I would think that is obvious. Blocks are weapon skills. Why would anyone expect a weapon skill to continue when your character mindlessly rages into auto attack?

This adds more skill to gameplay. Now there is a way to break characters out of long blocks. Ever see a pesky little engineer running around on point with gear shield up half the time?

If this is working as intended, this will make Guardian’s Shelter useless once Revenant (and possibly the Warrior specialization, since i expect it to get Taunt) are released.

I don’t think adding more and more unblockable skills is “adding more skill”. It makes blocks and classes that rely on it useless and promotes spamming.

My ranger have 0 block skills, so i’m fine with unblockable skills.

Rizo.9534:

My ranger have 0 block skills, so i’m fine with unblockable skills.

Counterattack.

Iavra.8510:

Lettuce.2945:

Since taunt is now technically a condi. You also don’t need to stun break it if you’re on ele. Just cleanse it.

Are you able to switch to water, though? Taunt prevents weaponswap (probably also a bug), so i’m not sure this would work.

No, it’s not a bug. You’re forced to attack with the weapon you used when taunted. They even said that when introducing it. Not every single thing benfiting the ranger is an “issue”, you know.

LughLongArm.5460:

Rangers are not not the only class with taunt, mesmers got it – https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mirror_of_Anguish

Yo I heard you like taunts, so I put up this mirror to taunt your taunting taunter so that we’re both taunted at each other.

It would make logical sense for the taunt to be blocked out only by means of closing access to the ear lobes. So wear the winterday earmuffs.

Miyu.8137:

Lettuce.2945:

It also doesn’t work with diamond skin ele (if he’s above hp threshold) and berserker’s stance on warr. Since taunt is now technically a condi. You also don’t need to stun break it if you’re on ele. Just cleanse it.

Taunt never was condition, no clue where did you come to this. Taunt always was control efect skill.
" Taunt is a control effect that forces the affected target to run towards the source of taunt with all skills except stun breakers disabled while using their auto-attack skill."

Taunt was patched in the last patch. It is a condition now. You can cleanse it. Go test it with an ele and cleansing fire.

And @ the guy who asked me if you can change attunements while taunted, the answer is yes.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Rizo.9534:

My ranger have 0 block skills, so i’m fine with unblockable skills.

Counterattack.

I know these skill, but i’m running only Condition builds now, and GS are worst choice for that.

Other classes have Block from Util/Heal skills/Kits/passives and ranger have Only from GS.
We can call it PRojectileBlock because if someone will attack you in meele range, you will be rooted.