Guild Wars 2

Thievs can steal skills from other classes. Is this true that when they steal from a ranger axe nr 5 WD and they use it thay can move? If yes how dumb is that?
WvWvW is the endgame, is this how it will be, godlike professioins with best skills and rest with whatever? Thievs are already Op as kitten and it does not look like they will be balanced anytime in the future. The more I play in gw2 pvp the more i see that its not about the skills of a player and all about class you pick :/

No……………….

they steal from ranger a regeneration skill (a tree)

That spinning attack looks a bit similar to whirling defence, but it’s a skill thieves get when using steal on warriors. As Urdriel said, they get a regen tree from us rangers

urdriel is right. And after hating on thieves much and improving my own skill; You are wrong, thieves are not OP. They are noob stompers – If you aren’t ready for them, you’re dead. But they are very quishy and they suspecible to CC (Try using Juvenile Wolf, the knockdown pet, Entangle ulti, along with “Protect Me!” if he gets to burst you. From there, take him down. If you can, save the fear for when he goes invis and tries to run away. They get out of stealth, and you can finish them. Also, your downed beats his downed.

the only problem you have with thieves is in WvW, in Spvp they die fast with traps, they have a huge benefit from Culling issue , but we cant do nothing against that…..

what is this culling issue?

That you don’t see them coming because they aren’t rendered fast enough, due to prioritized loading of elements.

andy.7813:

Thievs can steal skills from other classes. Is this true that when they steal from a ranger axe nr 5 WD and they use it thay can move? If yes how dumb is that?
WvWvW is the endgame, is this how it will be, godlike professioins with best skills and rest with whatever? Thievs are already Op as kitten and it does not look like they will be balanced anytime in the future. The more I play in gw2 pvp the more i see that its not about the skills of a player and all about class you pick :/

I love how this guy/girl claims thieves are OP yet shows lack of knowledgeof the thief class.

Maybe try to learn the thief class to counter them? Is that too much to ask for?

Ok its ma bad on axe nr 5 thing but i did read about it on the forums. Yes i think that thievs are op because it is one clas in WvWvW that I simply cant kill 1v1. Is it because i am a noob like someone stated , or thievs do have better pvp skills than reangers? Someone stated in this post that we have better doened skills than thievs lol.
“LICK WOUNDS” 99% of the time when i am downed is on cd , and i cant simply use it. On the other hand mesmer elementalist and thievs downed skills let them escape or delay stomp almost every time.
Traps are our best friend , hmm maybe but dont forget that you can see were ranger set his trap if you have this option selected in settings.

andy.7813:

Ok its ma bad on axe nr 5 thing but i did read about it on the forums. Yes i think that thievs are op because it is one clas in WvWvW that I simply cant kill 1v1. Is it because i am a noob like someone stated , or thievs do have better pvp skills than reangers? Someone stated in this post that we have better doened skills than thievs lol.
“LICK WOUNDS” 99% of the time when i am downed is on cd , and i cant simply use it. On the other hand mesmer elementalist and thievs downed skills let them escape or delay stomp almost every time.
Traps are our best friend , hmm maybe but dont forget that you can see were ranger set his trap if you have this option selected in settings.

Check the other thread where other rangers said they have no problem fighting thieves.

Also, watch the video a ranger just posted on 1v1 vs a thief in spvp where he owned that thief.

Not sure what your problem is…

Sifu.6527:

andy.7813:

Ok its ma bad on axe nr 5 thing but i did read about it on the forums. Yes i think that thievs are op because it is one clas in WvWvW that I simply cant kill 1v1. Is it because i am a noob like someone stated , or thievs do have better pvp skills than reangers? Someone stated in this post that we have better doened skills than thievs lol.
“LICK WOUNDS” 99% of the time when i am downed is on cd , and i cant simply use it. On the other hand mesmer elementalist and thievs downed skills let them escape or delay stomp almost every time.
Traps are our best friend , hmm maybe but dont forget that you can see were ranger set his trap if you have this option selected in settings.

Check the other thread where other rangers said they have no problem fighting thieves.

Also, watch the video a ranger just posted on 1v1 vs a thief in spvp where he owned that thief.

Not sure what your problem is…

Many rangers still have issues with thieves, Its gonna take time for people to do better.

In the mean time guys some pointers

I never leave the keep without lightning reflexes…….. specc’ed.

have a decent amount of toughness.

Battle Awarness, know where you are – Know your terrain; know who and what are around you.
(currently culling can give you problems – so take short stops while running to give your client time thus granting you time to avoid the invisible zerg coming your way)

Fight in places where you have the advantage, do not fight in the middle of kittening no where or infont of enemy keep >_>

Great sword #4 has a block ALSO evey 3rd strike with GS it evades {power stab}

Sword gives you access to 1 dodge couple it with the dagger and you have 2 dodges.

If you see 1 thief and a swirling shadow Kitten run, you run. Or warp. Dont stick around. That thief is not alone.

Put your keep warp into chat via shift key + right click – save it for those oh crap moments.

Traps work sometimes (I had mixed results with traps)

The Torch offers you some nice anti thief help via Bonfire, specc’ed its even better.

Thats all for now I guess.

The OP is not a noob for thinking theives are OP in spvp. Indeed the spvp forums are chock full of posts complaining about thieves-far in excess of any other class. The trick is that as a ranger you need a anti-thief build to beat a decent thief.

Most backstab/HS glass canon thieves can be beaten with just a stun breaker and good evasion timing (plus wolves help), but the ones you start to see a lot of now that focus more on stealth (pistol/dagger etc) need you to spec heavily into condition damage/trap build or a healing/support build to beat them.

It is always a pain in the kitten to fight them though because they are in stealth most of the time.

In my opinion for W3, Pistol/Dragger+cond thief is OP when facing a ranger. The main reason for ranger to lose this fight is pet cannot fight an invisible unit, especially a P/D thief who can nearly invisible permanent. In other words, if a P/D thief want to fight a ranger , you are not chance to run away without help.

Strange in GW2 there is no anti stealth skill. Pets ought to be able to sniff them out.