Is this type of build too spread out?

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

At first I wanted to try for a BM Bunker build, but then I got to looking at some of the typical trait setup and some of them didn’t appeal to me, which I’m probably missing the point to them.

Anyways, I got to thinking about using this as a setup for PvE/WvW:
10 Marksmanship: (IV) Signet Mastery
10 Skirmishing: (I) Pet’s Prowess
10 Wilderness Survival: (V) Pets deal extra condition damage
10 Nature Magic: (III) Nature’s Bounty
30 Beastmastery: (II) Master’s Bond or (V) Commanding Voice or (VI) Mighty Swap for Adept, (VII) Rending Attacks for Master, (XII) Natural Healing for Grand.

For gear, I’d use cleric armor (unsure of runes/orbs yet), and cleric trinkets. Weapon choice will be GS, Sword/dagger, or LB. Unsure of type and sigils yet.

Skills would be Troll Unguent (or Healing Spring?), Sick Em, Signet of Hunt, Signet of Wild, Rampage as One. Will probably switch out SoW for Lightining Reflexes on WvW.

I know there’s a lot of uncertainty in there (I’m still not sure about the gear choice), but are my traits a little too spread out there? The 30 BM is definately going to stay, but what about the other 40?

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

Any help on this at all? I’d really appreciate some input here.

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Posted by: awge.3852

awge.3852

It is very spread out, seems like your pet is the only one who will be doing anything significant here. Medium to low toughness/power/condition damage/critical chance/critical damage/boon duration and High healling power/pet attributes.

Mon Fils — Favorable Winds [Wind] — Blackgate
Ranger’s guide to PvP/WvW: http://tinyurl.com/oht3e9z

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Posted by: wipol.1528

wipol.1528

I would run with 0 10 20 10 30, because Signet Mastery is useless in your build (you can precast SotH for your pet, and you will use SotW always for passive).
Pet’s Prowess is a lot of extra damage with cats (in particular Jaguar), so it’s ok.
In WS trait-line i would take Vigorous Renewal (vigor is always nice) and Martial Mastery (CD reduction make GS a very useful weapon in WvW).
For BM trait-line take Commanding Voice, Compassion Training and Natural Healing.

Sorry for my bad english ;)

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Posted by: PsionicDingo.2065

PsionicDingo.2065

edit – nevermind, didn’t see the BM Bunker focus.

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

I would run with 0 10 20 10 30, because Signet Mastery is useless in your build (you can precast SotH for your pet, and you will use SotW always for passive).
Pet’s Prowess is a lot of extra damage with cats (in particular Jaguar), so it’s ok.
In WS trait-line i would take Vigorous Renewal (vigor is always nice) and Martial Mastery (CD reduction make GS a very useful weapon in WvW).
For BM trait-line take Commanding Voice, Compassion Training and Natural Healing.

I actually use my signet actives quiet often, that’s why the Signet Mastery is quite appealing.

@awge, thanks for the input as I said, I’m not really too sure about the gear yet, so that’ll probably switched around. I’m not sure how I’d pull off increasing all those stats though and still retain a bunker status with the healing power….

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Posted by: awge.3852

awge.3852

If you want to improve on that build you have to ask yourself, what kind of BM bunker do you want to be? All heals, raw pet power, condition damage based, etc etc and go from there without spreading out too much.

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Ranger’s guide to PvP/WvW: http://tinyurl.com/oht3e9z

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Posted by: Kasama.8941

Kasama.8941

Don’t worry so much about your stats when it comes to traits, worry about synergy. Stats comes from armor, weapons, and tickets, first. The stats you get from traits are secondary. That’s not to say they aren’t important, it just shouldn’t be your first concern if you haven’t decided which gear to use, yet.

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Posted by: Nay of the Ether.8913

Nay of the Ether.8913

Don’t worry so much about your stats when it comes to traits, worry about synergy. Stats comes from armor, weapons, and tickets, first. The stats you get from traits are secondary. That’s not to say they aren’t important, it just shouldn’t be your first concern if you haven’t decided which gear to use, yet.

^ This.
The synergy of your trait skills is more important. At most your trait stats only amount to a few pieces of armors worth of stats. It’s the trait skills themselves that are most important. The only downside to this build is you are limiting yourself pretty badly when it comes to having to adapt to different fights. You don’t really have any room to swap things around if a change is needed, not on the fly anyway. But if you can live with that, and it’s working good for you, there’s no reason you can’t run this. Just know you will reach a limit to how much it can do though.

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

Don’t worry so much about your stats when it comes to traits, worry about synergy. Stats comes from armor, weapons, and tickets, first. The stats you get from traits are secondary. That’s not to say they aren’t important, it just shouldn’t be your first concern if you haven’t decided which gear to use, yet.

^ This.
The synergy of your trait skills is more important. At most your trait stats only amount to a few pieces of armors worth of stats. It’s the trait skills themselves that are most important. The only downside to this build is you are limiting yourself pretty badly when it comes to having to adapt to different fights. You don’t really have any room to swap things around if a change is needed, not on the fly anyway. But if you can live with that, and it’s working good for you, there’s no reason you can’t run this. Just know you will reach a limit to how much it can do though.

Thanks for the response guys. Yeah, I’ve main’ed a Guardian for nearly the whole time since release (I actually started a Ranger at the beginning). That’s exactly what I tell other new Guardians too. I was looking more for advice on the trait spread.

I’m actually okay with leaving my trait skills alone. I don’t like switching them around too often because I often forget that I need to change them back to whatever the situation is requiring them. I usually remember to do so half way through whatever encounter I’m on. Haha!

Anyways, I’ll be honest. I’m on a bit of a crossroads. I’m not sure what type of ranger I’m going to be yet. Do I go bunker build? But I already run a bunker Guardian. Do I go DPS build? If so, Power or Condition Damage? Despite type of DPS build, can I even run one well? I wasn’t so great with the DPS Guardian. I’ll have to think about that and probably just take my own Guardian newbie advice for my newbie ranger: just experiment with rares before investing in exotics.

I know one thing for sure though. I like pets, and the 30 BM will stay.

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Posted by: Nay of the Ether.8913

Nay of the Ether.8913

You could run hybrid with this build too if you wanted. Maybe a hybrid bunker-ish? Would pretty well meet all your requirements. You won’t do epic dps but neither will you have paper defenses. Should be pretty fun to play

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