Kicked for being ranger
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There is only one specific instance where you are actually required to play bearbow:
Harpy fractal TOM fight. U stand on the fan shooting with your short/longbow while your bear melees. Everyone else stacks behind the bear at max melee range and are immune to Toms green spin projectiles. Thats it!!!
You can still melee it with the GS, and probably even the sword too in-between the projectiles. There’s nothing physcially stopping you from stacking behind the bear yourself.
I misspoke, I actually meant allowed instead of required.
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The measure of success is going to vary from person to person, but if your definition of successful is to just “complete the dungeon in a reasonable pace.” then it doesn’t take much effort at all. I could be successful in dungeons playing condition damage longbow if I found 4 other players to carry me through them.
Instead, the focus for many players will be completing the dungeon efficiently and quickly in order to farm them for tokens and gold. In this scenario, you want every member contribute as much as their class can and builds like bearbow become less appropriate for the situation. It’s also very possible for players to not pull their own weight and leech off the boons and buffs the rest of the party gives to them. If you are playing with friends/guildies who don’t mind you playing that way, then that’s fine. In a PUG environment you won’t know the random players and they may not appreciate you running longbow in their speed runs. That doesn’t mean they’ll kick you or even care, but anyone knowledgeable with the game will be annoyed and may not be as patient.
tl;dr: It’s a team game, be a team player, not a DPS leech.
How is a bearbow going to leech off his team’s buffs when he’s standing at 1500 range?
That is exactly the argument I make when people ask why I say Longbow is garbage in PvE. If you’re standing at max range to make the most of the max-range damage then you’re missing out on buffs. If you’re standing at close range to get buffs your auto attack damage is going to suffer noticeably. On top of that the Longbow is, for the most part, strictly a damage weapon bringing no real form of team utility or buff/debuff stacking outside of Rapid Fire which stacks vulnerability but the Ranger loses a lot of DPS over the duration of Rapid Fire and, since the ability is channeled, if a dodge is required part-way through the channel duration then nothing is gained at all.
Additionally, if you’re standing at max range with a Longbow you’re likely not in range to help revive allies as necessary and any spirits you’re using are going to be out of range of the rest of your party as well thus negating any form of real “support” that the class may be able to provide.
Avoid the elitists at cof dungeon. To avoid getting kicked actually know the mechanics and techniques for dungeon runs, change builds and play style to fit the dungeon fights and you will never get kicked again, unless they are just kitten “You ranger? You kicked!”. Most likely those type of people are classists/racists in real life or something and that’s not something you can change lols…
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born to Isle Of Janthir
My Experience with Dungeons & Zerk Groups is that:
They usually allow Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer (for the aoe invisibility) only.
Its not uncommon to see 1 Mesmer, 4 Warriors or Guardians.
They usually kick all other classes.
I have talked to a number of them and its not about player issues, its about the classes.
Zerk groups have the best dps, they cant afford to be slowed by inferior dps classes.
I am sad, because i am a Zerk ranger, but unless Anet buffs something there isnt much we can do.
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