Guild Wars 2

Lately I am noticing as more and more people are bringing reflects/invulns into pvp that lb rangers are becoming quite useless. I find myself getting countered by engis where I used to be able to dps them down quite easily. More eles are running focus. Thieves are outshining us in every aspect. I hope that if our damage is nerfed they increase our skirmishing survivabily to help vs these hard counters.

Most I see (that I have started to PVP for the glorious armor — the only not a f__king dress medium armor that’s worth a kitten in the game) is bunker guardian, d/d ele, and turret engie. Of course, I’m just playing unranked to get through this PVP bull__it and be done with it.

Conquest mode is _hit and turret engie meta build in the one deathmatch map ruins the fun because the other time just acts like the engie is a capture point and stay around him dropping his turrets. More than one deathmatch has been ruined with turret engies for me.

Turret engi meta, lol

L2p

LB is very, very strong against turret engies.

s/f eles are quite strong against LB, but like wall of reflection guardians are nothing more than a gimmick that you see every now and then.

no other profs have significant reflects. block cd’s are long, so if u get a warrior to pop his shield or guard his shelter, youre contributing something. ive also used whirling defense against other rangers to decent effect. sword/axe/LB is pretty strong.

mistsim.2748:

LB is very, very strong against turret engies.

s/f eles are quite strong against LB, but like wall of reflection guardians are nothing more than a gimmick that you see every now and then.

no other profs have significant reflects. block cd’s are long, so if u get a warrior to pop his shield or guard his shelter, youre contributing something. ive also used whirling defense against other rangers to decent effect. sword/axe/LB is pretty strong.

Engi:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpyqlcx2KseNSiBNqUE6A8i7K6wlh8C-TJxHwADeAALLDA4CAIa/BA

Ele:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fFAQJAodhcM6cW4wyBf0AiAB5skqRBlfHTB-TJRHwAFeAAAOBAk2f4YZAA

Guardian:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAW5dlsApVo1CxXI8DNRCRl9M8fBI2fQLkCXFAA-TJRDwAaLDwc/BAPBAJXEAA

Warrior:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQNApeRjMdUGaVIehwJagkgC5HkBnDgDYAUWFlOA-TpBCwAOOCAAOBAgLDQ5BAY5QAEc/BA

what? I said reflects, not blocks. blocks affect regular attacks, not just projectiles. reflects (and absorbs) are the main issue for LB and there aren’t many.

I know. All of those builds have reflects.

It was never a weapon that could not be countered.

You can still do good damage with lb and build for survivability.

Try 2/0/6/6/0

if you are terrible at skirmishing with longbow its because you didn’t swap to your skirmishing offset…

In addition to reflects, those builds also carry retaliation and other skills that can mess up rapid ranged attacks in a variety of ways. Things like auras (fire) and skills that can stun you on hit. Longbow is ok to use, and the damage on full zerker spec can eat through anything, but really good players will get on top of you or mitigate your attack long enough for an ally to get on you.

The combination of three or four of the meta class/builds together shut down most ranger ranged attacks, including SB, because of the inordinate amount of condi cleanses (with shouts, etc) and boons. I’m not saying it is impossible to Burst these guys down, but I find going for the long drawn out fight more effective with this current meta.

If the meta switches out of celestial might stacking bunker builds, this might change. Look at the warrior shoutbow build, guardian altruistic healing builds, and d/f elem builds. These all deal out comparatively small amounts of damage, but have great utility and compliment each other nicely. Even if you knock one of these down with a burst you’ll never get the stomp in. Allies will be reviving in a second and have tons of abilities to deny stomping.

All this aside, LB does work well in most situations and you can master positioning and such to be very effective. The zerker builds are fine, but I think LB is best for its utility in more bunkerish style builds like those in the ranger-turret engie thread.