LOYF - A diamond in the rough?

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

LughLongArm.5460

“Light on your Feet: After dodging your damage and condition duration is increased by 5% for the next 4 seconds. Short bow skills recharge 20% faster and pierce.”

I see lots of hate in forum regarding this trait, but could this trait be very misunderstood?
2 thoughts.
1) The mechanic of small buff for short duration suggests to me that this bonus is stackble – like if you evade 4 times at once(lets say u dodge mesmer burst) u’ll get 20% bonus dmage and condi duration for 4 sec?

2) Most of the wepaons spesific bonuses mentions " While wielding(the spesific wepaon)", the 2 exceptions in LOYF and Strider’s Defense.
So could this bonus(After dodging your damage and condition duration is increased by 5% for the next 4 seconds) work with other weapons like GS wich has evade on AA?
possibly 50%-100% damage buff on zerg fight with GS AA?

What do you think?

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Posted by: Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

Honestly, the first part of the trait is rubbish. 4 seconds buff after dodging? WTF. If it were evade, then perhaps it could be semi-useful. I wonder if they did any math on this trait at all or just picked a number out of the ether. 5% damage on SB AA is 7 damage. 5% duration on a 3s bleed is 0.15seconds. So, if you dodge for the buff, hit with all 8 attacks, meet the flanking requirement for all 8 attacks, this trait will give you 56 damage and 1.2s of bleeding…

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Posted by: Wondrouswall.7169

Wondrouswall.7169

1) Even if it does stack, why does Ranger get the short-stick on the duration compared to all other professions that received a similar buff mechanic with limited duration?

  • Guardian: Invigorating Bulwark – 10s
  • Mesmer: Harmonious Mantra – 8s
  • Necromancer: Corrupter’s Fervor – 8s
  • Warrior: Furious – 8s
  • Elementalist: Elemental Surge – 15s
  • Ranger: Light on Your Feet – 4s

2) Until a Dev specifies, the wording makes it look like it can work with anything.

There’s still time for some tweaks, changes, and adjustments. Though there is potential for LoYF, that duration for the bonus needs to be increased.

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

LughLongArm.5460

Ya man u’r right, its dodge not evade, my bad. But atleast it will work for other wepaons right?

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Posted by: Sube Dai.8496

Sube Dai.8496

I think it probably does stack, but 4 seconds is too short for it to work.

By the time you proc it a third time the first one will have warn off, so you could only stack it twice. So 10% damage buff for wasting two of your evades.

I mean seriously, wasting a dodge for a 5% damage buff? No thanks.

We now have better might stacking options and the new Remorseless, which will function way better than this.

Skirmishing line still sucks IMO.

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Posted by: Eirh.1439

Eirh.1439

You also need to keep in mind that ranger has a trait that gives him 10% more damage for having full endurance. I really don’t get what they are going for with LOYF.

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

They should just give Light on your Feet 10% attack speed while wielding a shortbow. Or some other buff that only benefits shortbows. Then it can have proper power like Lead the Wind does for Longbow.

Give it back 10% damage and 10% condi duration while moving, but only when wielding a shortbow.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

I can get their idea.
It’s more responsive like this. You feel like something’s changed in your play-style.

Sadly, the numbers are too weak. But 20% recharge means 20% more poison, faster evades, more cripple uptime (bleeds via pet), faster stun… And you can stun 5 people if lucky with #5.

The trait itself is not supposed to be damage boost only. It shouldn’t be a straight 10% damage increase like other weapons. At least that’s what I think.

“Observe, learn and counter.”

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Posted by: Bran.7425

Bran.7425

Polish excrement is still excrement. I’d like to say I was disappointed with what they’ve decided on, but after more than two years all I can think is how much worst could they make things before launch.

Pets have been hidden due to rising Player complaints.

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Posted by: Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

I can get their idea.
It’s more responsive like this. You feel like something’s changed in your play-style.

Sadly, the numbers are too weak. But 20% recharge means 20% more poison, faster evades, more cripple uptime (bleeds via pet), faster stun… And you can stun 5 people if lucky with #5.

The trait itself is not supposed to be damage boost only. It shouldn’t be a straight 10% damage increase like other weapons. At least that’s what I think.

Even remove the -CD and change to a +condi duration + damage unconditionally would be far better than it is now imo.

Especially since vigor just took a 50% nerf.