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Posted by: Digital Dragon.2697

Digital Dragon.2697

I have the chests for the leg stone and chest pieces. Question regarding the stats though (I’ve dusted off the Ranger so still learning)..are they worth it to actually wear? Or just for the skin? Thanks.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

I would personally use it only for commander tagging in WvW or Dragon’s Stand.

You’ll lose a lot of precious DPS anywhere else. PvE, PvP, even WvW. Staying alive is the only useful thing when being a commander. As one – you want to show people where to break enemy lines and when to strike. And you can’t do that with berserker stats because you can’t afford to go 1st.

For day-to-day content it’s useless.
Raids haven’t sounded yet, but you’ll need Ascended gear for that anyway.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

For day-to-day content it’s useless.
Raids haven’t sounded yet, but you’ll need Ascended gear for that anyway.

People keep posting on the raid forum that full ascended is only 2% better than exotic armor with ascended trinkets and weapons, so it may be of some use. We all know how “deftly” anet can sense what 2% is…

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Posted by: Klonko.8341

Klonko.8341

For day-to-day content it’s useless.
Raids haven’t sounded yet, but you’ll need Ascended gear for that anyway.

People keep posting on the raid forum that full ascended is only 2% better than exotic armor with ascended trinkets and weapons, so it may be of some use. We all know how “deftly” anet can sense what 2% is…

Maybe that 2% is in the same statistic section of the ranger’s pet doing 30% of all his dmg…

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Posted by: Digital Dragon.2697

Digital Dragon.2697

I would personally use it only for commander tagging in WvW or Dragon’s Stand.

You’ll lose a lot of precious DPS anywhere else. PvE, PvP, even WvW. Staying alive is the only useful thing when being a commander. As one – you want to show people where to break enemy lines and when to strike. And you can’t do that with berserker stats because you can’t afford to go 1st.

For day-to-day content it’s useless.
Raids haven’t sounded yet, but you’ll need Ascended gear for that anyway.

The lose of dps is what went through my mind, but it was so shiney and new! I mean why would Anet give us useless armor, right?

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Posted by: Jephiroth.3197

Jephiroth.3197

It’s all about the skins! I’ve run through the personal story 3 times and completed the dragons stand meets once, so I have 4 pieces so far. I’m working on a few more runs through the story to get a few medium pieces…. Only really need shoulder/chest/gloves unless you want the full outfit. I have 3 pieces on my Dragonhunter and the rest filled in with ascended. It looks pretty good together. I’m just not a fan on head hear.

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Posted by: Digital Dragon.2697

Digital Dragon.2697

They are going to definitely be skinned. I’ve ran DS twice for the pets, and got those drops. Even then I think the medium chest piece is ugly lol.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

People keep posting on the raid forum that full ascended is only 2% better than exotic armor with ascended trinkets and weapons, so it may be of some use. We all know how “deftly” anet can sense what 2% is…

Maybe that 2% is in the same statistic section of the ranger’s pet doing 30% of all his dmg…

It’s 5% and if I remember correctly they wanted to make it 10% with HoT (no change yet). I might have remembered it wrong or mistaken it for something, though.
It was developers’ confirmed you won’t be able to bear raids without it. You’ll either lack damage or agony might get implemented for it. We don’t know yet.

And unbuffed, cats deal roughly 30% of your DPS. Full buffed (assuming your pet is too) it still deals around 20%. When it comes to AoE, well… weak.

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Posted by: Ardenwolfe.8590

Ardenwolfe.8590

Regardless, it’s a noticeable difference in PvP. So if you’re a min/maxer, it’s definitely worth chasing.

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Posted by: Retsuko.2035

Retsuko.2035

People keep posting on the raid forum that full ascended is only 2% better than exotic armor with ascended trinkets and weapons, so it may be of some use. We all know how “deftly” anet can sense what 2% is…

Maybe that 2% is in the same statistic section of the ranger’s pet doing 30% of all his dmg…

It’s 5% and if I remember correctly they wanted to make it 10% with HoT (no change yet). I might have remembered it wrong or mistaken it for something, though.
It was developers’ confirmed you won’t be able to bear raids without it. You’ll either lack damage or agony might get implemented for it. We don’t know yet.

And unbuffed, cats deal roughly 30% of your DPS. Full buffed (assuming your pet is too) it still deals around 20%. When it comes to AoE, well… weak.

First of all, devs have confirmed that agony is not going to play any part in the new raids. Second, their statement on needing ascended armor is bullkitten and doesn’t hold much value due to the simple fact that they haven’t even told us anything more specific when it comes to the needed stats. You can be fully ascended, but what if you’re using the wrong stat combo on it? so it doesn’t make much sense.

Of course, in my opinion I think that ascended weapon+trinkets is standard since they are easy to obtain. So the extra few stats that ascended armor brings over exotic is neglectable. An above average skilled group can easily go in with exotic armor. If ascended armor would be nessecary, something would be wrong with the raid, not the players.

As for druids role, it’s still unsure, but previous experience has shown that druids in a healing role worked quite well.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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There is no way anet is capable of so finely tuning their raid that 2% stat differences are going to be noticeable. Maybe for their developers it is, but most of the developers are not very good players (sorry guys, but c’mon, we’ve seen your builds, they’re beyond terrible. ).

To make things clealer, 2% of a five minute burn phase is 6 seconds. And that’s if every single players is in exotics. If only 1 player is in exotics, that drops down to about half a second.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

@Fluffball

Where are 2% from?
As long as I can tell the Armor difference is 5% and Accessory,Rings etc. difference is much higher. I have sincerely no idea where 2% came from but it’s far from being correct.
Furthermore, the DPS it provides is a multiplying factor, not additive, so the DPS might get even higher.

If we are talking about Armor stats – yes. That’s correct. It doesn’t mean much. But if we are talking about a whole equipment stat quality – the DPS difference goes to ~11%.

And from 8 minute fight, that’s like 50 seconds. Not so irrelevant anymore.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

2% is the number that keeps being repeated on the raid forum. That’s for full ascended accessories and weapons, but exotic armor. The idea is that accessories and weapons are incredibly easy to get, and armor is much more time consuming and expensive.

Armor wise, if you need a specific set you could probably get 1 or 2 pieces and MF them into the right stat set, and then fill in the rest with exotic. I have an ascended knight’s box sitting in my bank that I don’t really want.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

2% is the number that keeps being repeated on the raid forum. That’s for full ascended accessories and weapons, but exotic armor. The idea is that accessories and weapons are incredibly easy to get, and armor is much more time consuming and expensive.

Hmmh. It might make sense if I count with different Power/Toughness ratio… But even so, I probably won’t be able to get to 2% damage difference whichever way I’ll try to.

But yes, indeed. If it’s only the Armor stat difference the numbers are close to being same. Be it 5% or 2%.
Thanks for the reply.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

You’re the math guy, I’m just repeating what keeps getting repeated. I saw it on reddit as well (although I generally try to avoid going there.) It may be like klonko said that it’s like the ‘30% of our damage in pets’ myth.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

It may be like klonko said that it’s like the ‘30% of our damage in pets’ myth.

Um… But that’s not really a myth. It’s just a situational calculation.
Pet indeed deals ~30% of our DPS if you count it without buffs.

It’s just not a statement to be used in practical environment where lots of AoE happen and your pet is no longer a subject for boosts since it’s 6th member of the party (and everything is capped at 5).

But I get your point.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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It’s been 30% since I can remember. At some point someone decided it was 30% and it has never changed despite rangers’ damage massively waxing and waning. I think it’s more of a concept than a real number.

It was 30% when the PvE meta was only sword autoattack (back when you opened with hunter’s call) and it was 30% when you opened with 100% faster RF and path of scars. It’s 30% with torch on quickdraw and us being nearly tied for highest DPS in the entire game If there is anything consistent in my life, it’s 30% of our damage is in our pet.