Low Level Ranger...It feels bad.
I’m sorry, but no: it does not get any better at higher levels.
If you are not enjoying the class right now, then you will never enjoy it, unless we finally get the ‘significant changes’ John promised us.
I’m sorry, but no: it does not get any better at higher levels.
If you are not enjoying the class right now, then you will never enjoy it, unless we finally get the ‘significant changes’ John promised us.
Bleh…Just can’t seem to find a class I like in this game.
I’m sorry, but no: it does not get any better at higher levels.
If you are not enjoying the class right now, then you will never enjoy it, unless we finally get the ‘significant changes’ John promised us.
Bleh…Just can’t seem to find a class I like in this game.
Really? Apart from Rangers and Engineers, every other class is more or less well-balanced. Exactly what kind of play-style are you looking for?
I’m sorry, but no: it does not get any better at higher levels.
If you are not enjoying the class right now, then you will never enjoy it, unless we finally get the ‘significant changes’ John promised us.
Bleh…Just can’t seem to find a class I like in this game.
Really? Apart from Rangers and Engineers, every other class is more or less well-balanced. Exactly what kind of play-style are you looking for?
Well normally I like playing Rogue-like characters but I just didn’t really enjoy the thief in this game, mostly because I prefer having a single long-duration stealth ability rather than a bunch of super short ones.
My only L80 is a guardian and I pretty much just hate him, very boring to solo with although I do feel useful in groups.
Figured I’d try Ranger because I liked the idea of being a sniper with a bunch of traps, but that doesn’t seem to really work out.
Maybe it’s just the game itself, I usually get way more interested in an MMO to the point where I’m addicted. I played Rift and WoW for more than a year without ever getting bored (WoW for more like 3+ years), and this game just has be worn out after a few months…
Yeah of course it gets better, for the simple fact that you learn to play the class.
I use a 1-handed sword in pvp and pve no problem now I know when and how to use it. Ie. in areas where I wont fling myself off a cliff and when I realise that my no.2 skill is how I dodge out of combat etc. Oh and FYI it’s also how you trigger combo fileds with melee – jump out, jump in or use axe offhand 5 to name a couple options.
My pet stays alive because I know when to heal it, or pop a stone signet, or move it out of AoE or switch it from melee pet to ranged and vice versa. Also investing in beastmastery traits helps with this.
Sure Rangers have some things that need some fixing and you wont have to read far into this forum to see what they are but take it with a pinch of salt so to speak. A lot of people are here just to bash the class but if you are prepared to take on the challenge playing a Ranger can be very rewarding.
It’s what you make of it in the end.
Seafarer’s Rest – Guild Leader The Deamon Army [TDA]
Tbf on the engi part its ok,
Rifle aa is more dmg than lb aa sin e it attks twice as fast than lb ranger eventho
Both say in tooltip to have a 3/4 casting animation (i have tested it) and engi has most condition removals if u trait for
It and use 3-4 elixers, which makes for 8 on around 30-50 sec cd
I myself have no problem with engi and survive easy with throw elixer r on myself preemptively.
Rangers, apart from having no
Reliable condition removal….
I made ranger after engi, just drop ur expectations and then find some tricks that rangers can pull off in pvp and up ur expectations. U gotta get to lv 30 to see how their elites work, ive always used rampage as one as elite, compare
That to the snare.. The snare makes you
Win 1v1’s, im a lb sb and use pet swap quickness, its superb in pve and makes ur pet not die often, the petswap quickness is the first one in
Beastmastery if u put 5 points into it.
I’m sorry, but no: it does not get any better at higher levels.
If you are not enjoying the class right now, then you will never enjoy it, unless we finally get the ‘significant changes’ John promised us.
Bleh…Just can’t seem to find a class I like in this game.
Really? Apart from Rangers and Engineers, every other class is more or less well-balanced. Exactly what kind of play-style are you looking for?
Well normally I like playing Rogue-like characters but I just didn’t really enjoy the thief in this game, mostly because I prefer having a single long-duration stealth ability rather than a bunch of super short ones.
My only L80 is a guardian and I pretty much just hate him, very boring to solo with although I do feel useful in groups.
Figured I’d try Ranger because I liked the idea of being a sniper with a bunch of traps, but that doesn’t seem to really work out.
Maybe it’s just the game itself, I usually get way more interested in an MMO to the point where I’m addicted. I played Rift and WoW for more than a year without ever getting bored (WoW for more like 3+ years), and this game just has be worn out after a few months…
I know how you feel. I too enjoyed WoW for several years, and the Rogue was certainly a fun class. However, I personally believe the Thief to be even more fun than WoW’s Rogue. It’s much more difficult to play. In WoW, a Rogue can stay stealthed 24/7. It’s rediculous. No such shenanigans in GW2, though some certain builds combined with a little bit of culling allows for near permanent stealth.
Rifle warriors are pretty much the snipers in GW2 with their class specific ability which is a charged high damage single target shot. You could try that one out.
As for the game itself: GW2 hasn’t got any real endgame yet, but neither did WoW in its early stages. Thankfully, GW2 doesn’t have a subscription fee, so you can leave and come back any time to check up on the state of affairs.
I use a 1-handed sword in pvp and pve no problem now I know when and how to use it. Ie. in areas where I wont fling myself off a cliff and when I realise that my no.2 skill is how I dodge out of combat etc.
As I stated, the #2 and #3 abilities are the reason I like the sword. The problem I’m having with it is the combo chain on the #1 ability, because it forces you to do this ridiculous animation that blocks me from using any other ability or even using a roll. I haven’t noticed this problem on any other class.
Agadar, are you really telling him it does not get better?
Atheismo, Just so you know, when I started my ranger in beta, I felt just like you. I could not for the life of me figure this class out. But just as with any class in this game, once you learn the mechanics of it all, and the little tricks of the trade .. Ranger becomes one of the easiest classes to play PvE wise.
My pets can tank just about most mobs out there minus Champions, and the such. They tank the karka and that machine gun butt spray they dish out no problem. Basically, you just have to figure out how you want your ranger to work for you, and trait accordingly to get desired results.
If you do not want your pet to take aggro when you lay traps down, you can put him on guard, lay traps, shoot baddie, and watch them burn, and while they burn .. sick pet on them. WIN!
You really just have to play around with it. Anyone that says it does get better, probably has a few problems in some areas (this is not an insult). They might not know how to trait to properly to get better results, or their traits just plain do not work with the build they are trying to make. They could have slower hand/eye coordination which causes them more deaths.
Like Rhaps said “Sure Rangers have some things that need some fixing”, but if you look on the forums enough, you will find plenty of rangers who love it. And that is usually because they took the time to figure it out. Which if you like the basis of the Ranger, I suggest you do, or you will be missing out on a great class.
If you need help with builds, or whatever do not hesitate to ask, as you will have plenty of people that will be willing to help including myself.
Take care, and good luck on your ranger if you decide to stay with it.
Rangers, apart from having no
Reliable condition removal….
?
We have a few ways to remove conditions, and they all work pretty well.
Plus one of THE BEST condition removal traits in the game. ( If you trait for it that is)
So you have a Bear that will remove a condition, and signet that will remove a condition every 10 seconds, or you can activate it and the pet will pull all conditions to them, including allies all at once, And then you Empathic Bond, also know as my best friend in PvP, that removes every single last condition you have on you no matter how many you have … every 10 seconds. Does not get much better than that if you ask me.
Oh .. and you have healing spring which also removes conditions.
Agadar, are you really telling him it does not get better?
Did I stutter?
Agadar, are you really telling him it does not get better?
Did I stutter?
Great comeback …
you now fall into the l2p category then.
For condition removal, the bear is tricky co when u select a mob anf then pres f2 the bear goes torward target and then uses it, i dont use the trait , im 30/25/10/0/5
Anda, in pvp heal as one is a stronger heal cos u wont be standing in the circle for most parts, thats why i say, no reliable condition renoval. Also the signer requires the pet to be alive
Agadar, are you really telling him it does not get better?
Did I stutter?
Great comeback …
you now fall into the l2p category then.
You’re hurting my feelings. Stop it.
Agadar, are you really telling him it does not get better?
Did I stutter?
Great comeback …
you now fall into the l2p category then.
You’re hurting my feelings. Stop it.
Recluse just got owned HARD, L O L xD
For condition removal, the bear is tricky co when u select a mob anf then pres f2 the bear goes torward target and then uses it, i dont use the trait , im 30/25/10/0/5
Anda, in pvp heal as one is a stronger heal cos u wont be standing in the circle for most parts, thats why i say, no reliable condition renoval. Also the signer requires the pet to be alive
I agree with your build you do not have reliable condition removal. I am 0/0/30/10/30, and I also do not use healing spring in PvP, but use Troll ungent instead. My pet hardly ever dies in PvP or PvE.
The short comings of my ranger is that I do not do much damage with my weapons, but enough to not be taken lightly, and my pet does most of my damage. And with my runes, and jewels, my healing power is through the roof, not to mention my toughness, I am hard to take down, minus a few mesmer and thief burst builds, and even then I can hold my own against some of them.
I use a 1-handed sword in pvp and pve no problem now I know when and how to use it. Ie. in areas where I wont fling myself off a cliff and when I realise that my no.2 skill is how I dodge out of combat etc.
As I stated, the #2 and #3 abilities are the reason I like the sword. The problem I’m having with it is the combo chain on the #1 ability, because it forces you to do this ridiculous animation that blocks me from using any other ability or even using a roll. I haven’t noticed this problem on any other class.
That ridiculous animation is brilliant against a moving/fleeing target as you’ll have noticed it’s a leap. You lose mobility in scrum for the tradeoff of constant cripple and lightning fast distance closing. Again, #2 (and to a lesser extent #3) is the balance to being ‘stuck’ for part of your #1 sequence allowing you to get out of danger once you see your health dropping. Ranger 1-h sword is very different to other classes, and I play Warr alot so I know what you mean, but it’s only a ‘problem’ if you try and use it like other classes.
You might find taking autoattack off #1 for a bit and doing it manually might help as other Rangers have suggested in the past. I don’t find that necessary though personally.
Seafarer’s Rest – Guild Leader The Deamon Army [TDA]
Sword becomes a thousand times better when taking the #1 off auto-attack.
It definately requires getting used to however.
It sounds like you are having problems with ranger in pve leveling which is boggling my mind because that is the only part where the ranger really excels. Put a few points, maybe 10ish, into the bm traits line and get a bear or boar pet. Select a mob and tell your pet to attack it. Hit your auto-attack, alt-tab out of game and check your email or Facebook for 10 seconds, tab back in and collect the loot. Move on to the next mob. This is literally how I leveled my ranger to 80, ranger is the easiest and brain dead class to level with warrior a close second. With a few points, a buffed pet can easily take on 2 or 3 mobs and not give a kitten.
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First of all; Atheismo, you’re doing it wrong. If you are having a hard time during the leveling stages of the game with the ranger, you are definitely doing something wrong. It’s the one area of the game where rangers really excel.
If you are having trouble with keeping your pet alive while leveling I would definitely consider either using a bear, drake, or even a canine. Then put at least 5-15 points into Beastmastery. This will buff your pet pretty well and get you the quickness on pet swap; at 15 points you get the pet swap cool down reduction which gets you even more quickness. The major trait at 10 can either allow for Master’s Bond for keeping a single pet out or Mighty swap if you like swapping for that quickness. Levels 1 to like 70 pretty much all enemies will go after your pet first making it a great “tank” while you attack from a bit further away or from behind.
The sword 1 auto-attack is pretty freaking annoying and has been noted since like forever by the ranger community as something that should be changed to allow for a more responsive dodge, etc. The best thing you can do is to just disable auto-attack for your sword; this allows for a bit more of a responsive feeling when you feel like you need to evade, etc.
Secondly, no it doesn’t really get better. Rangers are a very sub par class and even when you can do well with them, if you were to apply that skill to almost any other class, you would do much better with another class (well with maybe one exception lol). Once you reach 80 you will see major flaws with pet mechanics that will gimp you quite a bit in dungeons and PvP. In dungeons pets die way too easily to Champion AOEs and in PvP pretty much everyone knows you can gimp a rangers damage by like half if you just keep on the move because of pet pathing issues; oh btw this one also becomes an issue in about level 70-80 areas in PvE because most enemies will follow you instead of your pet at that point (there are ways to mitigate this and make it slightly less of an issue, but it doesn’t fix the root of the problem…). The trait lines start to feel like one big mess (certain traits that should be in one trait line are awkwardly in another and many useless or broken traits). There are several other glaring issues as well…
That being said, I would definitely say I like the class and the ranger abilities overall; then again I might just have a masochistic streak in me =/
I’m sorry, but no: it does not get any better at higher levels.
If you are not enjoying the class right now, then you will never enjoy it, unless we finally get the ‘significant changes’ John promised us.
I must disagree. I started with a ranger and stop playing it at about level… 15 or 20 because it feels… just “meh” to me. I returned and when I start to gain some cond. damage and toughness I started to really enjoy it with traps (You can throw them later with traits Atheismo)
Offtopic: I must like broken things like you Agadar, my main character is an engineer xD
Rangers, apart from having no
Reliable condition removal….?
We have a few ways to remove conditions, and they all work pretty well.
Plus one of THE BEST condition removal traits in the game. ( If you trait for it that is)
So you have a Bear that will remove a condition, and signet that will remove a condition every 10 seconds, or you can activate it and the pet will pull all conditions to them, including allies all at once, And then you Empathic Bond, also know as my best friend in PvP, that removes every single last condition you have on you no matter how many you have … every 10 seconds. Does not get much better than that if you ask me.Oh .. and you have healing spring which also removes conditions.
That’s what I thought at first, but then I tried other classes and they all seem to have a decent amount of condition removal if traited, not just the ranger.
But I do believe that healing spring is one of the best supportive healing skills in the game.
@OP My personal opinion is that if you really want to make use of the pet, you need to either trait him or use some utility skills that buff him.
@Op I know exactly what you mean.
I used to WoW Rogue, hunter and druid. They just felt like the most fun to me.
Figured I’d have similar experience on GW2 but the classes are just..missing something. With Rangers I feel their mechanics and builds are still too reliant on pets. In WoW, you could stow your pet and make up for the DPS loss, while still being very useful in dungeons, espeically as you say, sniper/trapper role. with the extremely basic pet controls and very limited class utils, ranger in GW2 feels incomplete.
By all accounts I should love my ranger in GW2 especially as it’s sylvari and aesethaetically far better than anything I could have created in WoW but in reality I just run with sigils and pet swapping.
What surprised me is how much I like the engineer tho. Made as asura as a joke and had tremendous fun with it, the asura are a really fun race. Made a sylvari Engi aswell (yeah I have a problem) and have absolutely a blast with it. My only gripe is that I’m not keen on any of the engi heal skills. Would much rather have the ranger heal spring on him.
My thief is similarly fun. I think with GW2 it can be harder to find something you enjoy but when you do it’s a blast. You have to experiment with this game cos honestly it has some real shiny gameplay, once you get out of old (WoW) habits and ways of thinking.
For me, the thief is better approached from high-speed hero stand point. A rogue swashbuckler-Errol Flynn affair or an Uzumaki Naruto-hyperactive ninja style. It’s not a Rogue, it’s a thief, a pirate, a highway man.
Having mained a guardian, you might not have learned the more subtler styles of gameplay GW2 has to offer. Levellinga Thief in Open World PvE teaches you that, rather harshly. It’s a nightmare to begin with but gets easier as you learn and get skills/traits.
That or frankly, you might just not like this game. Not veryone has the same tastes afterall.
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Levellinga Thief in Open World PvE teaches you that, rather harshly. It’s a nightmare to begin with but gets easier as you learn and get skills/traits.
That or frankly, you might just not like this game. Not veryone has the same tastes afterall.
So true, I levelled Thief and Ranger to 80, both with completed story line. All of this was far easier on Ranger.
Also try using your pet to pull enemies, use F3 and switch if its HP is low. Dont just send them in kamikaze
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.
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