Guild Wars 2

Ive been noticing something since the update and switching back to great sword… Against mobs no problem maul seems to work fine generally, in small encounters in pvp and wvw its ok too.

But in wvw whenever I have tried to land a big hit on a group of enemies, and I look for an explosion of numbers, I rarely see more than a few hits, often none. I check the combat logs, nothing. Its like if there are too many people it overloads and I am just doing a scarey bear graphic and thats it.

This is over several days now. I wrote if off at first as bad luck or lag or maybe a blind I didnt notice was on. But after stealthing up to an enemy zerg, swooping in and mauling the lot… nothing… got me very suspicious and have since found over and over again only scant hits with maul when hitting a large group.

So before I post this in the bugs forum has anyone else observed this issue? I remember seeing a post from someone that said their swoop wasnt working. Could this be aegis or something I am not thinking of maybe? I am not seeing “blocked” or any kind of graphic. Really makes maul a bit of a fail for me.

Now that you mention it I don’t think I have been hitting 5 targets when taking camps.

Doesn’t feel like the range has increased either.

Don’t know what to tell you guys. Maybe it’s a lag thing on your ends? I hit 5 targets in range and have greatly noticed, and appreciated, the increased effect arc.

It still has the same range as far as I know, it just has a wider cleave.

Substance, is that in pve, pvp or wvw? Pve seems ok to me but hitting a cluster of enemies in wvw has just been a dud for me whenever I check logs. Possibly it aegis being shared but it’s very consistent.

Being norn may be throwing me off a bit since the graphic may reach a lot farther than the effect.

Mostly wvw. I’ve hit 4-5 npcs in camps several times and 4-5 people while zerg surfing. It might be a bug linked to some unknown factor or maybe linked to the presence or absence or a trait like how they broke the LB with the fury GS buff.

I would agree that the bear is no longer a good indicator of the skill’s range. It’s bigger and goes out farther but they didn’t increase the distance range of Maul as far as I know. I treat it more like a pbAoE that hits most of my front 180 arc.

I’d say try in WvW by attacking a camp and balling up the NPC’s as tight as you can before mauling to see if people are just out of range or if it’s a bug.

I usually trait martial mastery, maybe that’s the culprit. In the patch notes they mentioned a range increase. Like you say they’ll often change an ability but bugger up the trained version or vice versatile.

I don’t think it’s Martial Mastery. I always run that when I use GS and I haven’t noticed a lack in hits.

In wvw it used to be that if 5 ppl ‘avoided damage’ (invul, dodging, block,) that you aoe just went to the next 5 people in that area. That is not true anymore.

Any 5 target aoe (or 3 for the matter), will hit one less target, if someone in it’s vicinity dodged/avoided damage. The problem i see here is that most ppl when zergs clash, dodge. (or use invul/block heal like guardian). The moment one person in your vicinity uses that, the game considers ‘them being hit’ by your skill, even if they are invulnerable to damage at the moment, making your skill hit one target less.

The moment Maul was buffed I started testing it out like you, and you are right that I rarely hit 5 people in wvw. I think it’s because the damage avoidance now counting to the amount of targets limit.

That must be it, but I don’t like how i often don’t get any message when it’s a very large number, the maul just doesn’t land.