Guild Wars 2

My least used is the moa family, of that would probably be the red moa. I never felt that pressed for fury before, and Remorseless doesn’t seem like a reason to get a moa.

bears → arctodus. Has a terrible f2 that can never land in pvp.
devourers → aren’t helpful.
any drakes that aren’t river or marsh, their f2s should never land in pvp and their condis dont do any dmg

Arctodus: Cast time on the F2 takes too long and doesn’t offer much.

For me personally, my least used is probably a 3-way tie between Pigs, Bears, and Moas. Their damage is just far too low to be useful to me, considering I run a Beastmaster build and thus rely on my pets to actually be doing useful damage. Not that I always need the highest DPS pets all the time, I still like variety and swapping in different pets rather than all cats all the time. Heck, I do occasionally even use one or two pets from the above families just for varietys’ sake. But when I’m doing something that requires a “good” pet, those 3 are never my go-to’s.

If I had to pick one family as my absolute least favorite / least used, that’d probably be Pigs. On top of being way too weak offensively, I also hate Forage, its an utter chore to stop and grab items just to use them, and the RNG aspect isn’t exactly great either.

Moas are underrated in PvP. They have a predictable AoE (although very short range) heal, and a couple of their F2s are better than most.

Not that I use them or anything, I mean why would you when things like wolves exist.

I’ve been making an effort to use more of the previously ignored pets in my menagerie lately, starting with pigs, which are easily my least used pet type.

I think Pig, because Porcine aren’t popular because of their F2 and Pig probably has the worse one.

Fluffball.8307:

Moas are underrated in PvP. They have a predictable AoE (although very short range) heal, and a couple of their F2s are better than most.

Not that I use them or anything, I mean why would you when things like wolves exist.

Once upon a time, there was a young man.
This man was very brave but didn’t trust people. The only one he did was his trusty pet. A Black Moa it was and it tried to be useful to it’s owner.

Whenever he Entangled his fearsome enemies, the Black Moa dazed them with it’s taunting shriek. He used the power of a Mighty Bear to bring them down one after another.

And the legend tells his enemies don’t use cleanse or stun-breakers forever after.

Pigs for me. I don’t really care for them thematically enough to experiment with them the way I do drakes, moas, and the sylvan hound. Don’t touch Devourers much either since they are just all around weak. A condi pet with no condi damage is a poor pet.

Oddly I don’t use the wolf and drakehound all that much, but that’s because I tend to focus on making less effective pets worthwhile since everyone already knows the canines are the top dogs.

Have to be Porcine. I just never could get into them. Birds hit 10x more often vs people and cats deal 10x more damage vs mobs. Since I didn’t want to build around the F2, they seemed pointless with such low crit chance too.

Question does anyone know if opponent can still use the environmental weapons ‘foraged’ by the porcine family?

Pigs. I mean, at least the Arctodus looks cool.

Devourers for me. Have never once tried to seriously use them because they’re just bad.

In regards to moa’s, the black and pink one can be surprisingly good with taunt. Taunts their enemy right into a 2s daze. It can also hit up to five targets provided they’re in range of the shriek.

The introduction of taunt is probably one of the best things to happen to the ranger class. It allows a lot of f2’s that would previously never land to be reliable. Still, we shouldn’t have to waste a grandmaster to have our class mechanic function as it already should.

Ive managed to find very good uses for the boon producing moas. However sadly my favorite pet type is my least used. Devourers. If for no better reason than there ‘evade’ skill. That one ability more than any other on the planet causess me to simply never use it. If anet got rid of that. Id actually consider taking it just for the sheer coolness factor of carrion devourers.

Shadelang.3012:

Ive managed to find very good uses for the boon producing moas. However sadly my favorite pet type is my least used. Devourers. If for no better reason than there ‘evade’ skill. That one ability more than any other on the planet causess me to simply never use it. If anet got rid of that. Id actually consider taking it just for the sheer coolness factor of carrion devourers.

I totally want a zerk stats Devourer. Or Spider for that matter.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Shadelang.3012:

Ive managed to find very good uses for the boon producing moas. However sadly my favorite pet type is my least used. Devourers. If for no better reason than there ‘evade’ skill. That one ability more than any other on the planet causess me to simply never use it. If anet got rid of that. Id actually consider taking it just for the sheer coolness factor of carrion devourers.

I totally want a zerk stats Devourer. Or Spider for that matter.

Spider with sinister, maybe?

Unholy Pillager.3791:

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Shadelang.3012:

Ive managed to find very good uses for the boon producing moas. However sadly my favorite pet type is my least used. Devourers. If for no better reason than there ‘evade’ skill. That one ability more than any other on the planet causess me to simply never use it. If anet got rid of that. Id actually consider taking it just for the sheer coolness factor of carrion devourers.

I totally want a zerk stats Devourer. Or Spider for that matter.

Spider with sinister, maybe?

Actually, yeah, that would be sweet as! Would have 50% crit chance so would be nice with Sharpened edges, Expertise Training and Companion’s Defense while playing a glass LB build. I’d like to try actually having a condi pressure pet that is effective while I play power.

Carrion devourer isn’t as bad as people claim.

I’ve never used an Armor fish. It looks great for its f2 but I use shark/red jelly fish cause dmg.

Soilder.3607:

Devourers for me. Have never once tried to seriously use them because they’re just bad.

In regards to moa’s, the black and pink one can be surprisingly good with taunt. Taunts their enemy right into a 2s daze. It can also hit up to five targets provided they’re in range of the shriek.

The introduction of taunt is probably one of the best things to happen to the ranger class. It allows a lot of f2’s that would previously never land to be reliable. Still, we shouldn’t have to waste a grandmaster to have our class mechanic function as it already should.

Quoting with emphasis. I think ranger pets are just done so poorly in this game, you could basically say every pet that isn’t a wolf or jaguar is bad in some way.

Bran.7425:

Question does anyone know if opponent can still use the environmental weapons ‘foraged’ by the porcine family?

Yes they can. As soon as it becomes visible to you the enemy will see it aswell.

Justine.6351:

Carrion devourer isn’t as bad as people claim.

I’ve never used an Armor fish. It looks great for its f2 but I use shark/red jelly fish cause dmg.

I actually like devourers at times for some bosses because they never die. Armor fish is super tanky as well, I think it is the perfect candidate for a reskin to a dolphin though

Most underused… Well, it’s not that I use a lot of different pets i the first place. Simply most of the pets are plagued by bad design If I had to classify them from my worst to my best :

1- Porcine : No controle on the charge and forage which is the worst designed skill in game (even racial skills can’t compare to this).

2- Bear : It’s not that I don’t understand the concept of the meat bag. In fact it could be pretty useful, but the way it’s done… Whatever, it’s useless.

3- Moa : they are simply to slow. They’ve got good utilities (even if, again, it would be 100 time better to be able to controle them) but fall back due to neverending cast time.

4- It’s sad, but birds come fourth. Bird are anchored by quickening screech and there is nothing quick on this screech. If we had controle over this utility skill, bird would probably be our best pet.

5- dogs and spider are here ex aequo. Mostly due to the fact that I’m not a PvP boy and I’m lax when it come to controle foes. Though, again, there is room for improvment if only we were able to controle their utilities skills.

6- Devourers : They are pretty good pets. In fact they are our best condi pet. They are only plagued by their non controlable kitten utilities and the lack of base condition damage on pets.

7- cats and drake : There is little to no flow on these 2. It’s mostly because they are not plagued by their utilities.

Dadnir.5038:

3- Moa : they are simply to slow. They’ve got good utilities (even if, again, it would be 100 time better to be able to controle them) but fall back due to neverending cast time.

Moa are just for buffing the ranger and not for dealing damage. It’s the best pet for those who don’t want a pet. Moa allow you to trade your pet for boons. That’s why I still hope for a Green Moa that gives swiftness.

Their cast times aren’t that bad. 1s is acceptable. The Jungle Stalker is the bad one with a 3s cast time.

Justine.6351:

Carrion devourer isn’t as bad as people claim.

I’ve never used an Armor fish. It looks great for its f2 but I use shark/red jelly fish cause dmg.

I use devourers for Tequatl.
They use range and boost my SotP (their F2 means basically 10 might and their attacks count as 2 = 2 might instead of 1 for me – it beats spiders)

Devourers because they are just terrible.

I would immediately start using pigs more if their foraged item replaced the f2 instead of dropping on the ground.

Fluffball.8307:

Moas are underrated in PvP. They have a predictable AoE (although very short range) heal, and a couple of their F2s are better than most.

Not that I use them or anything, I mean why would you when things like wolves exist.

Dude, really?

Moas are basically Terror Birds

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/primeval/images/5/58/TerrorBirdPromo.png/revision/latest?cb=20140118193554

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0e/b8/0c/0eb80c1c4e9c0d91eccbfe5b0ec076a9.jpg

I don’t understand what you mean. Just that they look cool?

I remember one time I was going to spike a Mesmer and I got chain CC by 4 moas, almost died too. The things are scary.

Justine.6351:

I remember one time I was going to spike a Mesmer and I got chain CC by 4 moas, almost died too. The things are scary.

Was that in wvw? Those kitteners have killed me before by interrupting my heal while I was fighting someone.

This thing: Pig
With this F2: Forage

Eurantien.4632:

bears -> arctodus. Has a terrible f2 that can never land in pvp.
devourers -> aren’t helpful.
any drakes that aren’t river or marsh, their f2s should never land in pvp and their condis dont do any dmg

Ironically, all the drakes that you didn’t mention have a very good direct damage component on their f2 that is very easy to land in pve/dungeons. Salamander drake and Reef drake are both solid choices for pve encounters that either involve a lot of aoe or that a feline pet wouldn’t survive. Agree that they could use some condi dmg though.

Taku.6352:

Bran.7425:

Question does anyone know if opponent can still use the environmental weapons ‘foraged’ by the porcine family?

Yes they can. As soon as it becomes visible to you the enemy will see it aswell.

I am still amazed that this (dis)functionality made it through alpha, and still exists today, imagine if opponents could pick up conjure weapons how quickly would Anet drop everything to fix that?

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Shadelang.3012:

Ive managed to find very good uses for the boon producing moas. However sadly my favorite pet type is my least used. Devourers. If for no better reason than there ‘evade’ skill. That one ability more than any other on the planet causess me to simply never use it. If anet got rid of that. Id actually consider taking it just for the sheer coolness factor of carrion devourers.

I totally want a zerk stats Devourer. Or Spider for that matter.

Zerk bear ftw.

If real life grizzlies worked the way GW2 brown bears did, there would never be a need to hang food from trees or use tank bodies as trash cans in Yellowstone.

Bear attacks would be a slight inconvenience, never life and death. A screen door would keep them out of your home.

Substance E.4852:

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Shadelang.3012:

Ive managed to find very good uses for the boon producing moas. However sadly my favorite pet type is my least used. Devourers. If for no better reason than there ‘evade’ skill. That one ability more than any other on the planet causess me to simply never use it. If anet got rid of that. Id actually consider taking it just for the sheer coolness factor of carrion devourers.

I totally want a zerk stats Devourer. Or Spider for that matter.

Zerk bear ftw.

If real life grizzlies worked the way GW2 brown bears did, there would never be a need to hang food from trees or use tank bodies as trash cans in Yellowstone.

Bear attacks would be a slight inconvenience, never life and death. A screen door would keep them out of your home.

If we were using real life as a basis, bears and felines would be flat out best as far as making things die. Particularly bears. Heavy armor won’t do you an enormous amount of good if a 2000 pound polar bear decides to run you down at 25 miles per hour. Ouch.

Drakes would be up there too. Have you seen how big their jaws are? We’re talking a crocodile on steroids with even more bulk behind them than the game’s bears. And it just so happens to be able to shoot lightning from it’s mouth or set you on fire.

… Oddly enough Tail Swipe does a pretty fitting amount of damage for how big the drake is.

Ehecatl.9172:

Drakes would be up there too. Have you seen how big their jaws are? We’re talking a crocodile on steroids with even more bulk behind them than the game’s bears. And it just so happens to be able to shoot lightning from it’s mouth or set you on fire.

… Oddly enough Tail Swipe does a pretty fitting amount of damage for how big the drake is.

True. I realized the omission right after I posted it.

Edit: Also, I just want to say that hyenas are underpowered. They may be only the size of wolves, but their bite is more powerful than a brown bear’s.

Does the f2 hyena spawn do a KD like the pet hyena or is it just an auto-attack hero?

The second hyena does a knock down, yes. I used it in a zoo tycoon build with hyenas and pirate runes. It was pretty fun.

Problem is they usually do the knock down at the same time wasting it. Sometimes they’ll do it one at a time though, usually if one is closer to the enemy than the first, which leads to a double knock down combo.

Ehecatl.9172:

The second hyena does a knock down, yes. I used it in a zoo tycoon build with hyenas and pirate runes. It was pretty fun.

Problem is they usually do the knock down at the same time wasting it. Sometimes they’ll do it one at a time though, usually if one is closer to the enemy than the first, which leads to a double knock down combo.

You could wait until yours uses kd before using the f2, but you sacrifice some dps then.

You could, but the first knock down will be over before the overly long F2 cast time finishes to summon the second hyena, so you don’t get the chain control that you’d get summoning before the knock down.

Maybe you could use Hilt Bash between the enemy getting up and the F2 finishing, but even that might not buy you enough time.

Ehecatl.9172:

You could, but the first knock down will be over before the overly long F2 cast time finishes to summon the second hyena, so you don’t get the chain control that you’d get summoning before the knock down.

Maybe you could use Hilt Bash between the enemy getting up and the F2 finishing, but even that might not buy you enough time.

Well, if you hilt bash into f2 taunt into summoned ’yena knockdown…maybe.

That could work. I haven’t touched hyena since before the patch that gave us taunt.

Definitely something to test now.

I’ve been using them in pvp recently (also with pirate runes lol) and I’ve been letting the hyena open with it’s knockdown, use the f2 to taunt and summon, and then the 2nd hyena will use its knockdown. If the chain lands I usually hit them with maul or rapid fire during it and then follow up with pbs our hilt bash.

It’s tough to land the entire chain but running the tanky traits with 3 pets body blocking is pretty fantastic for fighting on point.

It just occurred to me that I should be opening with the wolf and possibly landing a 3rd knockdown…

I never use cats because I’m allergic to them

Mine is just Devours Slow f2’s they are of a Burst type mostly Spray shots ect so you’d need a Sustain build of the melee type to get the most use out of them but the fact they are slow for damage and the F2 is only good at a very close range , it makes them easy to spot and avoid so you need to go full melee + use them in a very situational enviroment.

Pigs i find Saimoth the only good one , the others are again way too situational the Condi warthog is great with full out condi builds due to the items scaling off you picking it up with a Full Poison set up the throw Venom sack and scale stab are very power full but again i find the cooldown on the other pigs not worth the effort to employ picking up the item.

you also have to time Damage % stacks for their Charge+ keep them in line with Mobility CC to get a decent amount of damage.

as to why Saimoth its just got great defence items worth while as a trade for the slow+hard to time damage , Plasma with nature magic is a God send for pet and Ranger.

Bran.7425:

Taku.6352:

Bran.7425:

Question does anyone know if opponent can still use the environmental weapons ‘foraged’ by the porcine family?

Yes they can. As soon as it becomes visible to you the enemy will see it aswell.

I am still amazed that this (dis)functionality made it through alpha, and still exists today, imagine if opponents could pick up conjure weapons how quickly would Anet drop everything to fix that?

well the kitten storm on ele forum would make them fix it in a few days at most and then they would buff conjured weapons to make it up to them (id guess by about 20-30%)