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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

I tried the zerker front load damage build for a couple of weeks. Good for a laugh but a little restrictive in it’s play style. I have been cruising with a power regen build recently. It is very solid but lacks a bit of damage imo.

So I decided to try and go back to a more damage build but with a little more survivability.

Note : * This is for WvW solo roaming only. Yaks/camps and killing other solos/duos/zerg stragglers*

- GS is a must for me. Mobility +defense. Burst is pretty nice also
- 10% damage for each… steady focus….hunters tactics…peak strength…scholars runes
- 5% damage for sigil of force
- toughness 1783 isn’t terrible
- Lightning reflexes + Swoop will get me out of a jam
- Jungle Stalker for 5 stacks of might
- Sig of renewal is only condition defense so a bit weak there.

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Posted by: Cempa.5619

Cempa.5619

You won’t get far solo roaming as ranger without regen, sorry. Other wise I think its a really cool DPS build!

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Posted by: urdriel.8496

urdriel.8496

You won’t get far solo roaming as ranger

Fixed.

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Posted by: Cempa.5619

Cempa.5619

You won’t get far solo roaming as ranger

Fixed.

Not true Ranger has some near immortal 1v1 and 1v2 builds all revolve around regen/vigour.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

You won’t get far solo roaming as ranger without regen, sorry. Other wise I think its a really cool DPS build!

Weird, cause I could have sworn I did just that a couple of weeks ago with that front loaded damage zerker build that was making the rounds. That build was a lot squishier than this build.

The biggest weakness for me is knowing when to play or fold. I can usually tell after 3 arrows whether I am going to win. Too many times I had the long standing bunker mentality to stick it out to the end…win or lose. I am slowly getting better disengaging when I know it’s not going to end well.

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Posted by: Cempa.5619

Cempa.5619

So you tip toe around the map and when you do find a lone player you fire a few arrows from 1500 only to realise they are built to roam, so you switch to GS and Swoop da heck out of dodge? Okkkk got it..have fun.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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So you tip toe around the map and when you do find a lone player you fire a few arrows from 1500 only to realise they are built to roam, so you switch to GS and Swoop da heck out of dodge? Okkkk got it..have fun.

Thanks, I will have fun. Maybe you could show me the key that tiptoes. I am not familiar with that.

Even with the glassier build from a couple of weeks back I got far more kills than I do now with my regen build. The two biggest reasons why is I killed faster=less chance for target to get help…and since I killed faster the less chance for enemy just to run away when he realizes that I am tough to kill with regen build…and that if he runs away, I don’t do enough damage to prevent it.

Many times this past week I was ready to jump on a group of 2-4 before realizing I couldn’t kill the guy in back fast enough with my regen build. With the damage build many times you could pull it off by killing the one guy…pull back and reevaluate to stay, or go after another one. Both damage and regen builds have their strengths and weaknesses and I play both + condi build for variety.

Not sure who kittened in your cereal but I didn’t ask for a critique of play style. I asked for suggestions to tweak the build for this play style. Go troll somewhere else.

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Posted by: urdriel.8496

urdriel.8496

You won’t get far solo roaming as ranger

Fixed.

Not true Ranger has some near immortal 1v1 and 1v2 builds all revolve around regen/vigour.

If Anet fix pets perhaps, but im tired of 1vs1 and while the opponent hit you with 100% of his power in each attack rangers only have 60/70% because pets are useless if your opponent is moving all time, they are too kiteable.

And now people cries about spirit ranger too, dunno why all this Hate against the ranger class.

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Posted by: Sube Dai.8496

Sube Dai.8496

Pretty much just a full knights build.

You might as well move the 5 points from WS to Skirmishing for moment of clarity. You’ll get way more mileage out of hilt bash/maul than 10%^90

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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Pretty much just a full knights build.

You might as well move the 5 points from WS to Skirmishing for moment of clarity. You’ll get way more mileage out of hilt bash/maul than 10%^90

I have seen a couple of videos with people using moment of clarity and it looks terrific. The problem is I am not real good at interrupting people to take advantage of MoC

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Posted by: Sarision.6347

Sarision.6347

Well you also get +50% increase for Hilt Bash stun/daze and extra crits.

I dunno, I never really liked Runes of Scholar and Peak Strength that much, especially in WvW and PvP.

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Posted by: Rufy.6093

Rufy.6093

Are you trying to steer new players in the wrong direction? When I first started, I used a similar build and although decent in dungeons it was awful in wvw.

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Posted by: IBountyHunterI.4601

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Lol at it being a bad build.

Its actually a very decent build. GS ranger can melt almost anything.
Being a power ranger is not some easymode build where your regen holds your hand the whole time.

Never the build only the player can determine how effective a build is. If you suck you suck, and in that case I reccomend a bunker build since its near impossible to kill.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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Are you trying to steer new players in the wrong direction? When I first started, I used a similar build and although decent in dungeons it was awful in wvw.

You’re right, new players probably shouldn’t use this. Maybe I should have put a caveat that new players would likely find it easier using a regen build in WvW.

I am only an average player though and I can pull this off. I’m sure some of the better players here would rock with it.

The irony is, because it is a little harder to run with this in WvW is exactly why it can work. People don’t expect it and totally underestimate the damage (and this build is not even close to being top damage…other Rangers do more). A couple of times today I came upon 3 enemy just before they took a sentry point. They saw me standing at about 2000 units away, decided I wasn’t a threat so started on the sentry. 1 Swoop to get into range, switch to LB and I had a guy dead before they knew what happened. Pop stabilty, down him and swoop/block away.

So there are some kills you would never get with a regen build and there kills that a regen can pull off that these glassier build couldn’t.

I just posted the build to get suggestions for tweaks. My original plan went away because Scholars were 3+gold each…and can’t afford that

Edit:….and one of the best things about these damage builds with LB is Thieves. When a Thief is trolling around going in and out of stealth…..You time it to get in two regular shots then pop rapid fire before he restealths …wait about 15 seconds for his corpse to appear. For me that alone makes these builds fun …since I absolutely hate Thieves. Especially troll perma stealth Thieves.

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Posted by: Cempa.5619

Cempa.5619

Its not newer players who should use regen, its any ranger who actually wants to 1vx and not play chicken from 1500 just run as soon as a regen ranger comes his way lol

I call your build the ultimate troll glass cannon because it has the damage for sure but the survivability of a galss cannon at is good at trolling newer players solo, turn around and use swoop to run away any one?…Any good and properly speced/geared solo roamer will wipe the floor against non regen rangers.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

Its not newer players who should use regen, its any ranger who actually wants to 1vx and not play chicken from 1500 just run as soon as a regen ranger comes his way lol

I call your build the ultimate troll glass cannon because it has the damage for sure but the survivability of a galss cannon at is good at trolling newer players solo, turn around and use swoop to run away any one?…Any good and properly speced/geared solo roamer will wipe the floor against non regen rangers.

lol what’s with the hostility ? Troll build ? Many on the forums have called regen Rangers a troll build. So last week I was trolling when I used my power regen build? .. and this week I am trolling using a higher damage build ? (not completely glass). Tough crowd.

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Posted by: Kasama.8941

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If you change your coat, gloves, boots, back, and earrings to soldier, you’ll get a more balanced build. 16.000 health is on the low side.
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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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I would like the option to use some soldier pieces now and then. I don’t have access to the vendor though and they aren’t sold on the TP

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Posted by: Kasama.8941

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I would like the option to use some soldier pieces now and then. I don’t have access to the vendor though and they aren’t sold on the TP

You can buy soldier pieces with your badges and a bit of coin, from WvW vendors.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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I would like the option to use some soldier pieces now and then. I don’t have access to the vendor though and they aren’t sold on the TP

You can buy soldier pieces with your badges and a bit of coin, from WvW vendors.

Really ? I thought you had to do some PvE event.

Nice

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Posted by: Keops.6183

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I would like the option to use some soldier pieces now and then. I don’t have access to the vendor though and they aren’t sold on the TP

You can buy soldier pieces with your badges and a bit of coin, from WvW vendors.

Really ? I thought you had to do some PvE event.

Nice

How much karma do you currently have? You should have a decent amount of karma even if you don’t do your dailies and do not PvE.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

I would like the option to use some soldier pieces now and then. I don’t have access to the vendor though and they aren’t sold on the TP

You can buy soldier pieces with your badges and a bit of coin, from WvW vendors.

Really ? I thought you had to do some PvE event.

Nice

How much karma do you currently have? You should have a decent amount of karma even if you don’t do your dailies and do not PvE.

1.2 million karma

..and I found those vendors.. thank you

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Posted by: Keops.6183

Keops.6183

I would like the option to use some soldier pieces now and then. I don’t have access to the vendor though and they aren’t sold on the TP

You can buy soldier pieces with your badges and a bit of coin, from WvW vendors.

Really ? I thought you had to do some PvE event.

Nice

How much karma do you currently have? You should have a decent amount of karma even if you don’t do your dailies and do not PvE.

1.2 million karma

..and I found those vendors.. thank you

Hehe so you can afford a few sets.
For the leggings you will have to get them with badges as they are not available from any Orr karma vendor.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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So the Orr Karma vendor….who I haven’t unlocked yet, sell all Soldiers, for Karma, except legs. Is that correct ?

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Posted by: McWolfy.5924

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in wvw soldier=invaider

WSR→Piken→Deso→Piken→FSP→Deso
Just the WvW
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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

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Not sure how Moment of Clarity is without being Asura, however if you’re Asura, i highly recommend it.

Technobabble becomes just nasty with it.

Being able to Chain Daze for a very long time is very very powerful

As for Armor Preference, i’ve tried my Technobabble Ranger Dazer Build (which is sort of similar to this) with multiple gear sets, and Clerics Armor built similar to BM Bunker honestly works the best.

Rangers just don’t support Power/Crit damage builds very well unless you do niche’s like Maul Builds (which does work, esp if you’re Sylvan) however things like Knights and such just kind of blah since our pet makes up a portion of our damage.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

Not sure how Moment of Clarity is without being Asura, however if you’re Asura, i highly recommend it.

Technobabble becomes just nasty with it.

Being able to Chain Daze for a very long time is very very powerful

As for Armor Preference, i’ve tried my Technobabble Ranger Dazer Build (which is sort of similar to this) with multiple gear sets, and Clerics Armor built similar to BM Bunker honestly works the best.

Rangers just don’t support Power/Crit damage builds very well unless you do niche’s like Maul Builds (which does work, esp if you’re Sylvan) however things like Knights and such just kind of blah since our pet makes up a portion of our damage.

Human, so no babble for me

What weapon set did you use for your Cleric build ? Last week I was using GS + A/WH. Damage is a tad weak. One fight had a mesmer stand there..not fight..and laugh as I hit him with axes.

I need something ranged no matter what build I use. I haven’t tried SB since patch since axe is same range. I really want to keep GS for getting around. I really miss it when I don’t have it. I wonder if LB would work with Cleric/regen ?

I don’t know the answer

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Posted by: Kasama.8941

Kasama.8941

Not sure how Moment of Clarity is without being Asura, however if you’re Asura, i highly recommend it.

Technobabble becomes just nasty with it.

Being able to Chain Daze for a very long time is very very powerful

As for Armor Preference, i’ve tried my Technobabble Ranger Dazer Build (which is sort of similar to this) with multiple gear sets, and Clerics Armor built similar to BM Bunker honestly works the best.

Rangers just don’t support Power/Crit damage builds very well unless you do niche’s like Maul Builds (which does work, esp if you’re Sylvan) however things like Knights and such just kind of blah since our pet makes up a portion of our damage.

Actually, direct damage builds are better since the big june patch, as more damage wen’t from the pet and over to the longbow. I’ve defiantly noticed I’ve been able to get more kills with my longbow, compared to before the change, where a lot of my opponents could just outrun my longbow damage.

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

Not sure how Moment of Clarity is without being Asura, however if you’re Asura, i highly recommend it.

Technobabble becomes just nasty with it.

Being able to Chain Daze for a very long time is very very powerful

As for Armor Preference, i’ve tried my Technobabble Ranger Dazer Build (which is sort of similar to this) with multiple gear sets, and Clerics Armor built similar to BM Bunker honestly works the best.

Rangers just don’t support Power/Crit damage builds very well unless you do niche’s like Maul Builds (which does work, esp if you’re Sylvan) however things like Knights and such just kind of blah since our pet makes up a portion of our damage.

Human, so no babble for me

What weapon set did you use for your Cleric build ? Last week I was using GS + A/WH. Damage is a tad weak. One fight had a mesmer stand there..not fight..and laugh as I hit him with axes.

I need something ranged no matter what build I use. I haven’t tried SB since patch since axe is same range. I really want to keep GS for getting around. I really miss it when I don’t have it. I wonder if LB would work with Cleric/regen ?

I don’t know the answer

GS and SB still, I mean that’s 3 Dazes with Technobabble, I usually pop someone with Shortbow Daze while they’re healing, then they panic…they either pop a stun breaker, in which case i’ll technobabble them again during the heal… or they try and get distance so their heal pop.

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Posted by: IBountyHunterI.4601

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Its not newer players who should use regen, its any ranger who actually wants to 1vx and not play chicken from 1500 just run as soon as a regen ranger comes his way lol

I call your build the ultimate troll glass cannon because it has the damage for sure but the survivability of a galss cannon at is good at trolling newer players solo, turn around and use swoop to run away any one?…Any good and properly speced/geared solo roamer will wipe the floor against non regen rangers.

Then tell me how as a power ranger I have been mopping the floor with people in spvp, tpvp, and solo roaming in WvW.

Playing power ranger is how I win my fight clubs, when I tried to Regen BM it I could never down someone. The only time I have lost is when I missed my maul burst.

Bottom line its not a hand holding build like regen is.

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