Guild Wars 2

I had a great time playing this build. Its full glasscanon and puts out very nice spike damage. Enjoy!

Nice. I really think we aren’t that different from eles/thiefs when it comes to DPS options. The only real difference is that they have faceroll disengages with those 100 miles leap chains and stealth.

Golly. You look like you’re having a blast! I’m gonna have to give this a try at some point.

You’re running full zerker stats?

Great video, looks like a hella fun build!

Maybe runes of lyssa would be good too ? gives precision and condition removal when you use an elite skill , all boons too

Very nice video

Though I would like to remind you. Rangers suck at WvW. Rangers can’t do burst damage. Rangers pet suck and uncontrollable.

You must be some noob because some how your Ranger doesn’t fall into this category.

lol nice one mate

Several encounters which were cut away from. It’s a burst montage rather than a show of robust builds. He has no stun breaker so the moment he gets caught on a stun with a zerg he’s screwed. Same if he came across any thief that can land a mug/daze into basilisk. He had around 16k hp, probably very little toughness so after he blew signet of stone he could be bursted down in one sequence by a mesmer or thief.

The big burst buttons as well were long cooldowns like signet of the wild, and most of his opponents didn’t even dodge maul, which has a blatant animation before it lands.

What happens when the d/d ele mist forms/armor of eath through his signet cooldowns? He dies after.

KensaiZen.3740:

Very nice video

Though I would like to remind you. Rangers suck at WvW. Rangers can’t do burst damage. Rangers pet suck and uncontrollable.

You must be some noob because some how your Ranger doesn’t fall into this category.

lol nice one mate

Indeed, i am carried by my pet Darwald.

Zenith.7301:

Several encounters which were cut away from. It’s a burst montage rather than a show of robust builds. He has no stun breaker so the moment he gets caught on a stun with a zerg he’s screwed. Same if he came across any thief that can land a mug/daze into basilisk. He had around 16k hp, probably very little toughness so after he blew signet of stone he could be bursted down in one sequence by a mesmer or thief.

The big burst buttons as well were long cooldowns like signet of the wild, and most of his opponents didn’t even dodge maul, which has a blatant animation before it lands.

What happens when the d/d ele mist forms/armor of eath through his signet cooldowns? He dies after.

Well ain’t you a ray of sunshine.

Zenith.7301:

Several encounters which were cut away from. It’s a burst montage rather than a show of robust builds. He has no stun breaker so the moment he gets caught on a stun with a zerg he’s screwed. Same if he came across any thief that can land a mug/daze into basilisk. He had around 16k hp, probably very little toughness so after he blew signet of stone he could be bursted down in one sequence by a mesmer or thief.

The big burst buttons as well were long cooldowns like signet of the wild, and most of his opponents didn’t even dodge maul, which has a blatant animation before it lands.

What happens when the d/d ele mist forms/armor of eath through his signet cooldowns? He dies after.

Not all builds are suitable for every situation. Why would you even think it would be that way?

There is no super 1 build to rule them all.

I really don’t get you people sometimes.

Well Zenith did raise some concerns with the build which are legit. Survival is important in wvw, and most of these opponents were running away. The enemies looked pretty varied for this length. Would love to see some footage of more Mesmer, Thief, Engineer fights. I’d imagine thats where it will get tricky…

Having said that I like big numbers, and I loved it. Only felt sad for the poor charr at 5:50

capuchinseven.8395:

Zenith.7301:

Several encounters which were cut away from. It’s a burst montage rather than a show of robust builds. He has no stun breaker so the moment he gets caught on a stun with a zerg he’s screwed. Same if he came across any thief that can land a mug/daze into basilisk. He had around 16k hp, probably very little toughness so after he blew signet of stone he could be bursted down in one sequence by a mesmer or thief.

The big burst buttons as well were long cooldowns like signet of the wild, and most of his opponents didn’t even dodge maul, which has a blatant animation before it lands.

What happens when the d/d ele mist forms/armor of eath through his signet cooldowns? He dies after.

Well ain’t you a ray of sunshine.

Why are you so defensive? If you feel the points are invalid, address them.

Everybody likes to see crits/burst, but if 6.5k mauls impress you on berserker gear with long cd signets popped, then you haven’t played other classes. The raven slash+ signet burst is about 12k damage, all on a 30 sec+ cd. Other classes in berserker can do this burst far more frequently, and without relying on opponents to not be kitten and forget to dodge maul.

Maul is VERY easy to dodge.

It’s a pretty, entertaining video for a ranger. Experienced players, though, will eat this build alive.

Erro.2784:

KensaiZen.3740:

Very nice video

Though I would like to remind you. Rangers suck at WvW. Rangers can’t do burst damage. Rangers pet suck and uncontrollable.

You must be some noob because some how your Ranger doesn’t fall into this category.

lol nice one mate

Indeed, i am carried by my pet Darwald.

Looks like someone’s mastered their profession.

You can break 10k on Maul..I’ve done it before..Its a very Niche spec though, cause Maul is a huge pain the kitten to land.

Nice video, some awesome kills. I share some of Zeniths misgivings though.. I dont think a single person in that video even attempted to dodge / block swoop. If they did so I think you’d find yourself out of options very quickly. Still.. when it works it seems to work well :P

Cufufalating.8479:

Nice video, some awesome kills. I share some of Zeniths misgivings though.. I dont think a single person in that video even attempted to dodge / block swoop. If they did so I think you’d find yourself out of options very quickly. Still.. when it works it seems to work well :P

Not entirely true, since there are some very nice dodges made by people in the video… though admittedly its easier to dodge swoop than maul. Key to this build is maneuvering such that you don’t get detected, which is easier said then done.

I understand what Zenith is saying and actually agree on most fronts, but this is a lol spec. My real wvw spec is something else entirely… Vids of those can be found in my sig.

KensaiZen.3740:

Not all builds are suitable for every situation. Why would you even think it would be that way?

There is no super 1 build to rule them all.

I really don’t get you people sometimes.

No, there isn’t one build to rule them all, but good builds should give enough wiggle room to grant you the initiative. You create a situation of weakness and exploit the hell out of it; force the other player to make a mistake. The problem is, that other classes tend to have an advantage in this area… sure a good ranger will do well, but if you directly applied that skill to playing another class, that good ranger would suddenly become a godly player on that other class.

And it’s not that we are that far behind other classes either; there are just a few minor issues (pet reliability for one) that need to be worked on to allow us to create and take advantage of situations as well as other classes do.

On topic:
Anyone else cringe when that ranger at 2:08 used barrage and Erro pulled out the GS? I felt sorry for the guy lol.

Zenith.7301:

capuchinseven.8395:

Zenith.7301:

Several encounters which were cut away from. It’s a burst montage rather than a show of robust builds. He has no stun breaker so the moment he gets caught on a stun with a zerg he’s screwed. Same if he came across any thief that can land a mug/daze into basilisk. He had around 16k hp, probably very little toughness so after he blew signet of stone he could be bursted down in one sequence by a mesmer or thief.

The big burst buttons as well were long cooldowns like signet of the wild, and most of his opponents didn’t even dodge maul, which has a blatant animation before it lands.

What happens when the d/d ele mist forms/armor of eath through his signet cooldowns? He dies after.

Well ain’t you a ray of sunshine.

Why are you so defensive?

Hehe, I think you’re the one being defensive. You act like someone disagreed with your on the internet or something…

But you did come off pretty negative. You came in with a chip on your shoulder and took it upon yourself to ‘explain’ what people are seeing. Did you ask the OP about the build? Why he made the choices he did or the edits in the vid? Nah, you did something else though.

As far as bursts go, it looks pretty effective while not requiring too much set up. I like it. I think comparatively though, it’s no mesmer shatter in terms of AoE. But maybe this’ll be Ranger’s turning point, where people quit the pity party and do some amazing stuff instead.

Leo G.4501:

Zenith.7301:

capuchinseven.8395:

Zenith.7301:

Several encounters which were cut away from. It’s a burst montage rather than a show of robust builds. He has no stun breaker so the moment he gets caught on a stun with a zerg he’s screwed. Same if he came across any thief that can land a mug/daze into basilisk. He had around 16k hp, probably very little toughness so after he blew signet of stone he could be bursted down in one sequence by a mesmer or thief.

The big burst buttons as well were long cooldowns like signet of the wild, and most of his opponents didn’t even dodge maul, which has a blatant animation before it lands.

What happens when the d/d ele mist forms/armor of eath through his signet cooldowns? He dies after.

Well ain’t you a ray of sunshine.

Why are you so defensive?

Hehe, I think you’re the one being defensive. You act like someone disagreed with your on the internet or something…

But you did come off pretty negative. You came in with a chip on your shoulder and took it upon yourself to ‘explain’ what people are seeing. Did you ask the OP about the build? Why he made the choices he did or the edits in the vid? Nah, you did something else though.

As far as bursts go, it looks pretty effective while not requiring too much set up. I like it. I think comparatively though, it’s no mesmer shatter in terms of AoE. But maybe this’ll be Ranger’s turning point, where people quit the pity party and do some amazing stuff instead.

He may be being negative but that is not mutually exclusive to being a realist. As soon as someone reacts to the burst he’s dead. Notice that several clips were shut off before the finish? It certainly is good damage, you wouldn’t be lying, but damage certainly isn’t everything.

That being said, this is definitely a strong build for ganking poor/unattentive players, but every class has some full zerkers based build that can get similar results like d/d glass thieves, 100b wars, 100 nades (rip) or static discharge engis, hell I’ve even seen full zerkers guardians who rely on the element of surprise with judge’s intervention and unscathed contender.

Writetyper.1985:

He may be being negative but that is not mutually exclusive to being a realist. As soon as someone reacts to the burst he’s dead. Notice that several clips were shut off before the finish?

Not entirely true, because you are adding a lot of dps pressure. Most people try and get away to recoup, which is where the LB comes in nicely. Additionally, you can see that a couple of people attack me instead of the other way around. The build does well for holding your own.

Cutting was done intentionally to spare you some of the more boring scenes. Some went well, other not (for instance, scene with 4 vs 1 did not go well).

Leo G.4501:

Zenith.7301:

capuchinseven.8395:

Zenith.7301:

Several encounters which were cut away from. It’s a burst montage rather than a show of robust builds. He has no stun breaker so the moment he gets caught on a stun with a zerg he’s screwed. Same if he came across any thief that can land a mug/daze into basilisk. He had around 16k hp, probably very little toughness so after he blew signet of stone he could be bursted down in one sequence by a mesmer or thief.

The big burst buttons as well were long cooldowns like signet of the wild, and most of his opponents didn’t even dodge maul, which has a blatant animation before it lands.

What happens when the d/d ele mist forms/armor of eath through his signet cooldowns? He dies after.

Well ain’t you a ray of sunshine.

Why are you so defensive?

Hehe, I think you’re the one being defensive. You act like someone disagreed with your on the internet or something…

But you did come off pretty negative. You came in with a chip on your shoulder and took it upon yourself to ‘explain’ what people are seeing. Did you ask the OP about the build? Why he made the choices he did or the edits in the vid? Nah, you did something else though.

As far as bursts go, it looks pretty effective while not requiring too much set up. I like it. I think comparatively though, it’s no mesmer shatter in terms of AoE. But maybe this’ll be Ranger’s turning point, where people quit the pity party and do some amazing stuff instead.

Context, read it.
He stated some facts, probably expecting the OP to clear them out or explain or even just make him admit that the facts are true. Since the OP clearly stated the he isn’t interested in further argumentation OP either agrees and/or doesn’t want to discuss, disappointing Zenith (and me).

Also, no zergs in the vid => Roamer build mostly. Hardly will work against an experienced player. Killing a guardian that used his heals mostly to kill the dolyak and fighting against a fail-thief were both painful to watch. It’s not the sort of thing you would expect in a serious build demonstration.

Shirou.4862:

He stated some facts, probably expecting the OP to clear them out or explain or even just make him admit that the facts are true. Since the OP clearly stated the he isn’t interested in further argumentation OP either agrees and/or doesn’t want to discuss, disappointing Zenith (and me).

Also, no zergs in the vid => Roamer build mostly. Hardly will work against an experienced player. Killing a guardian that used his heals mostly to kill the dolyak and fighting against a fail-thief were both painful to watch. It’s not the sort of thing you would expect in a serious build demonstration.

Dunno what you were expecting tbh. Its a vid showing burst potential, nothing more. If you expected a burst build that was good for every situation, then your expectations are worrisome.

I find it boggling that people assume that there is a spec for any class to take on a zerg, ridiculous. Against any good player, 1v1 is tops. 2v1 against good players will always mean you will die. So solo play vs zergs is pointless when demonstrating a build… Group synergy is what you need vs zergs, and as such you need teammates.

Any statement regarding the quality of a build vs an experienced player are disappointing. Its the quality of the player that counts, not the build.

Shirou.4862:

Context, read it.
He stated some facts, probably expecting the OP to clear them out or explain or even just make him admit that the facts are true. Since the OP clearly stated the he isn’t interested in further argumentation OP either agrees and/or doesn’t want to discuss, disappointing Zenith (and me).

Uh, I did read the context. And OP has and likely would clear out facts and explain. Zenith sort of didn’t take that step, is all I’m saying.

It’s going to be like many burst builds and die if pressured. Then it’s up to the player’s skill to react properly and win or die. Facts like “Once he burns the long cooldown on Signet of Stone, he can be bursted down….” seem pretty duh anyway. It’s the same principal as Warrior’s Endure Pain, each with their own set of perks and penalties. And I’m curious if your concept of realist includes having high standards.

I’d like to know how the OP feels about the set-up’s AoE damage and it’s effectiveness in a more PvE environment. I can guess but I’d rather hear what others have to say about it.

My 1 big gripe is the distinct lack of stun break for a PvP/WvW build.

Granted Healing spring cures conditions but having to rely on your heal skill to GTFO is bad imo.

You guys seem to be forgetting that activating Signet of the Wild is 12 seconds of stability if you have Signet of the Beastmaster (which this build has).

Yes, it’s not the same as a stunbreak, but seeing as this build uses SotW pre-emptively, it doesn’t need stun breaks for atleast 12 seconds.

@Erro
Hope you don’t mind, I added it to the compilation thread

I think Erro plays the build to its fullest. I want to separate my criticisms of the build to criticisms about him, because there are none when it comes to his play. I just thought many of his victims were not the best roamers.

So when people spend the gold to get the gear to support and try this build, it’s important that they know that what they see in the video is the best case scenario — and know what it is on average.

I actually use this build for pve, except I switch out signet of the hunt for frost spirit. It’s a build that also works well on towers and while keeping your distance because your longbow will burst decently often. But as a build for skirmish or roaming? This is not your build, stick to BM bunker if you want to roam.

jubskie.3152:

You guys seem to be forgetting that activating Signet of the Wild is 12 seconds of stability if you have Signet of the Beastmaster (which this build has).

Yes, it’s not the same as a stunbreak, but seeing as this build uses SotW pre-emptively, it doesn’t need stun breaks for atleast 12 seconds.

@Erro
Hope you don’t mind, I added it to the compilation thread

I didn’t know that!

You know, it’s kind of funny…of all the classes I play, I tend to always keep a stunbreaker on my utilities most of the time…except ranger. If you don’t have a stun breaker on elementalist, you’re likely going to get ganked. If you don’t have one for mesmer you’re as good as dead. Warriors get stunned so often, you pretty much have to have something otherwise you can’t do anything.

Rangers, I often don’t get stunned because I can just evade it or block it and when I can’t, Rampage as One is 20 sec of stability! Sig of the beastmaster sounds awesome if it can increase your damage by 20% with sig of the wild and for 12 seconds!? Yeah the cooldown is 2 min but you can bring that down sig mastery. Lol warrior signets are pretty bad…Stances are about on par with Ranger signets when traited (and you can’t get shorter cooldowns on stances). Hmmm, this build seems more viable to me all of a sudden. It’d be hard to leverage well (impossible in a lot of situations) but I could still see it working and being fun.

Zenith.7301:

I think Erro plays the build to its fullest. I want to separate my criticisms of the build to criticisms about him, because there are none when it comes to his play. I just thought many of his victims were not the best roamers.

Granted. Most looked average at best, but then I can’t talk as I’m pretty below average when it comes to WvW. And like you said before, the fights cut so it doesn’t really show well how good or bad a lot of them were players running away…but as I said before, I don’t think anyone said you were wrong in your assessments and most replies support them.

I actually use this build for pve, except I switch out signet of the hunt for frost spirit. It’s a build that also works well on towers and while keeping your distance because your longbow will burst decently often. But as a build for skirmish or roaming? This is not your build, stick to BM bunker if you want to roam.

Good to know. I might give it a shot in PvE in that case.

I want to thank you Erro, you inspired me to make a GS full zerker GC build, and i’ve been playing spvp with it today. Died more in one day than in a week on my old build but the most fun i’ve had in the game, awesome stuff.

Wanderer.5471:

I want to thank you Erro, you inspired me to make a GS full zerker GC build, and i’ve been playing spvp with it today. Died more in one day than in a week on my old build but the most fun i’ve had in the game, awesome stuff.

Yeah, its a bit hit and run Glad you enjoyed it like I did!