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Posted by: Graybes.8251

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I’ve always wanted to play a ranger because I like the idea of having a pet following me around. However, I just don’t really know what weapon set to use. I will definitely be using longbow as one of my weapon sets but I don’t know what else to use. I’m one of those people that likes to build more defensively so that is why I am so hesitant to build I ranger because I’ve never really heard of a defensively built Ranger. I also prefer melee combat…

Do my preferences work in some way without gimping a ranger? Or would I just be better off forgetting about having a pet and playing a guardian or something?

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Posted by: RyuDragnier.9476

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They can work, and the Greatsword would be a good secondary weapon for you, due to its defensive capabilities and power. Now here’s the real question…do you want your pet to do damage with you, or for you to do most of the damage? And what kind of damage are you looking to put the enemy through most of the time, condition, or actual power based damage?

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Posted by: BlackhawkSOM.6401

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If your going for defense go with greatsword as #4 has a block and auto attack on #1 which evades attacks every 3rd hit. Also if things get rough go #3 swoop is the best leap in the game.

Also I always tell new rangers dont be fooled by the longbow. The dps is outdone by the shortbow and with shortbow you get another evade plus a stun. Only thing worthwhile on longbow, for me anyway, is the barrage and vulnerabiliy which I only use for wvw.

Ranger can be one of the most defensive classes as it has ….evades,blocks,condi removal,protections, regen, a few escapes ect ect.

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Posted by: Robyn Yew.6072

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“I’m one of those people that likes to build more defensively so that is why I am so hesitant to build I ranger because I’ve never really heard of a defensively built Ranger. I also prefer melee combat

Do my preferences work in some way without gimping a ranger? Or would I just be better off forgetting about having a pet and playing a guardian or something?"
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Sounds like you want us Rangers to convince you. Just go play gaurdian, you’re better off.

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Posted by: Graybes.8251

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Sounds like you want us Rangers to convince you.

No I’m looking for help from ranger players because I love pets in games like this but I don’t want to be completely useless due to my preferences. Other people gave some nice tips, not sure why you had to respond like that.

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Posted by: RyuDragnier.9476

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From thinking for a while, I think you might want to go for a bit of a beastmaster bunker. Slot skills you may be interested in include Heal as One, Troll Unguent, Signet of Stone, Protect Me, Signet of the Wild, Signet of Renewal, Sick ’Em, and Rampage as One. Trait points would probably be best spent in some form in Wilderness Survival, Nature Magic, and Beast Mastery.

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Posted by: naphack.9346

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ranger has the best defensive melee weapons in the game. <-period.
Sword is godlike, greatsword is even more so(defensive, that is)

Just look as the friggin skills…
sword 1: stick on your opponent like glue
sword 2: Disengage and re-engage at will
sword 3: evade stuff and roll around your foe
dagger 4: evade
dagger 5: cripple from a range

gs 1: evade on every third attack
gs 2: damage
gs 3: leeeeeeeap… And a friggin great one at that. You can outrun anything save for 2 guys perma-crippling/immobilizing you.
gs 4: block and counterattack
gs 5: daze

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

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Ranger’s might be the best tank in the game. Perma vigor, regen, and prot. With an essentially 12k heal (not counting regen of any sort). Coupled with 3 spammable evades, an autoattack evade, and a block. Doesn’t work so great for moving around and against large large groups but its definitley doable. Lesser tanky builds are just are nearly as good and can be way more mobile.

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Posted by: Graybes.8251

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Awesome I’m really liking all the input! I guess I will have to decide between sword/off-hand or a greatsword.

Does anyone have any links to these builds you are talking about? You know with like perma regen/protection or like someone said bunker beastmaster? Looking for a good trait setup and run combination

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Posted by: naphack.9346

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as for your decision between sword/oh and gs, imo, the difference is the playstyle.
With the sword, you stick to your target like glue and take it down bit by bit. Sword is best supplemented by axe+torch or a shortbow.
With the GS, you typically wait things out while trading blows and then burst in and try to take your target down in one big attack.
Typically works better with a longbow… Or a sword for that matter, if you want something to fall back on when you are about to be overwhelmed.

Basically, sword for bunker builds, GS for more damage/movement oriented burst builds. For getting around quickly, nothing beats a GS, for staying on target constantly, nothing beats a sword.

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Posted by: Graybes.8251

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When people say bunker build are they talking about power toughness vitality or toughness power precision?

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Posted by: naphack.9346

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A bunker is a bunker… Just try to be hard to kill.
The most common bunker builds use either clerics(healing/tough/power), apothecary (healing/tough/cond), VERY expensive or something similar.
Min/maxing with no vit and loads of toughness with high healing values is feasible, if you got ample condition removal and regeneration uptime. Else, you will probably want the aforementioned ptv armor.
As for the ranger, reg uptime is no problem, so you can probably save on the vitality part and grab some healing power for a bunker build.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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I’ve always wanted to play a ranger because I like the idea of having a pet following me around. However, I just don’t really know what weapon set to use. I will definitely be using longbow as one of my weapon sets but I don’t know what else to use. I’m one of those people that likes to build more defensively so that is why I am so hesitant to build I ranger because I’ve never really heard of a defensively built Ranger. I also prefer melee combat…

Do my preferences work in some way without gimping a ranger? Or would I just be better off forgetting about having a pet and playing a guardian or something?

Curious, if you prefer melee why a longbow?

Anyway, absolutely try great sword it’s a great defensive weapon and is really strong for melee too after the buff.

Personally, my favorite defensive build is 0/0/20/30/20 + Soldier Gear, followed closely by my bunker build with 0/0/30/10/30 + shamans gear (apothecary in PvE)

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Posted by: RyuDragnier.9476

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Durz, that favorite defensive build of yours was the one I was actually considering mentioning, since it sounds like a rather good one on paper (I was actually studying the various trait builds for about an hour and a half).

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

Durz, that favorite defensive build of yours was the one I was actually considering mentioning, since it sounds like a rather good one on paper (I was actually studying the various trait builds for about an hour and a half).

I’ve used it in tPvP a few times when my friends needed/wanted a bunker and it is REALLY good at that despite the lack of healing, and depending on your pet choice you can have some mean damage output.

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