Guild Wars 2

Chokolata.1870:

- Great Sword auto attack chain damage buffed by 20%

I suggest an alternative to this. Just like how the Reaper has slower GS attacks, since Ranger is viewed as a more agile fighter, increasing the attack speed of the auto attacks would fit more thematically.

It would increase the auto attack damage a different way, making the chain go from: ½s ½s ¾s to ¼s ¼s ½s. Naturally, the 1s evade from 1c would have to be reduced to ¾s, but the trade-off is accessing it faster due to shorter cast times in the chain.

Two-Handed Training could also use bump to the damage modifier from 5% to 10%

Chokolata.1870:

Let us not forget (oh how could we… xD) that we need our damage brought up to par.

With that in mind I would suggest:

- Great Sword auto attack chain damage buffed by 20% ( it is so bad its funny)

- Sword auto attack chain damage buffed by 15%, all parts of the combo now splash to 3 targets

- Serpent strike damage increased significantly (at least 100%) and poison stacks increased from 2 to 4

- Hornets sting cast time decreased to 1/4 or removed

- Axe auto attack damage buffed to be able to bounce off friendlies. The idea is that if a pet is on the target the attack will hit the foe, bounce to a pet and then back to the foe, effectively hitting him two times. The Friendly bounce would do no damage but count towards the might stacks.

- Shortbow auto attack bleed requirement removed. Confusion added to no5, immob added to number 4

These are my SB changes, check it out:

Hope you like it.

My idea was to really make SB a perfect hybrid weapon, both damage and condition damage + that amazing utility.

Also, I wanted to make SB and retain is skillful parts so I decided to keep the flanking mechanic. I do not want SB to become like Engineer Pistol with conditions galore on it just by spamming the buttons. SB rewards you with proper positioning so there’s that.

StickerHappy.8052:

UPDATE

• Here I’ll revisit the shortbow again. The recent buffs to it were great and all but it still does not make SB a competitive weapon. I love the utility that we have on this weapon and love the flanking mechanic as well so my changes will revolve around flanking and proper positioning.

Crossfire

• Fire an arrow the bleeds your target. Deal 50% more damage if you hit them from behind or from the side.

• Damage Damage: 196 (0.55)?
  Damage: 50% when flanking
  Bleeding (3s): 66 Damage
  Range: 900
  Combo Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile (20% chance)

Reasoning: There is so much cleanses in the game, putting Bleed on AA will just put it on par with Engie pistol. Since this is a hybrid weapon, dealing 50% damage on flank will still do its purpose rewarding proper positioning.

Poison Volley

• Fire a spread of five poison arrows. Create a poison field.

• Damage Damage (5x): 170 (0.5)?
  Pulses: 4
  Field Duration: 4s
  Radius: 240
  Combo Combo Field: Poison
  Range: 900
  Unblockable
  Poison (4s): 670 Damage, -33% Healing Effectiveness
  Targets per Arrow: 5
  Pierces
  Range: 900
  
  Reasoning: This is already a very good skill, since it pierces by default. just added a poison field so that we can also participate in downed cleaving (Traps are not very reliable since you need a target to actually proc them meaning you have to have someone ressing the target).

Quick Shot

• Fire a quick shot in an evasive retreat. Gain swiftness. This can be used while retreating. Gain quickness when flanking

• Damage Damage: 118 (0.4)?
  Swiftness (3s): 33% Movement Speed
  Quickness (2s): Skills and actions are 50% faster.
  Evade Evade: ½s
  Combo Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile
  Range: 900

Reasoning: I feel this skill should give you quickness regardless as this is a very good disengage skill, added quickness for a successful flank so you can use a heal or disengage right away.

Crippling Shot

• Fire an arrow that cripples your target. Your pet’s next three attacks inflict bleeding. Immobilize when flanking. Your pet gains superspeed when flanking

• Damage Damage: 118 (0.4)?
  Crippled (3s): -50% Movement Speed
  Superspeed (2s): 100% Movement Speed
  Bleeding (6s): 132 Damage
  Immobilize (2s): Unable to move.
  Combo Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile
  Range: 900

Reasoning: Granting the pet superspeed will make the most out of the cripple so you get the bleeds more reliably. Most people said torment is good on this but I heavily disagree, you are putting too much damaging conditions on a High Rate of Fire weapon. I also feel torment is counterproductive with cripple. Immobilize on the other hand, makes SB a better kiting weapon, and good for chasing down people. Immob + Superspeed on flank will get chasers for sure.

Concussion Shot

• Daze and Confuse your foe with an arrow. Stun them and Deal additional Confusion if you hit from behind or from the side.

• Damage Damage: 118 (0.4)?
  Confusion 3 stacks (4s): 50 Damage On Skill Use, 50 Damage
  Confusion 5 stacks (4s): 50 Damage On Skill Use, 50 Damage
  Daze: 2s
  Stun: 2s
  Combo Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile
  Range: 900

Reasoning: Confusion just fits the name perfectly, also we get that needed condition variety for rangers.

FINAL THOUGHTS: With these changes, I am pretty sure shortbow will be more appealing. It will become a true hybrid weapon. I matched the Damage and Damage Coefficient of the AA with the Thieve’s trick shot so Crossfire is getting a little buff.

Wondrouswall.7169:

Chokolata.1870:

- Great Sword auto attack chain damage buffed by 20%

I suggest an alternative to this. Just like how the Reaper has slower GS attacks, since Ranger is viewed as a more agile fighter, increasing the attack speed of the auto attacks would fit more thematically.

It would increase the auto attack damage a different way, making the chain go from: ½s ½s ¾s to ¼s ¼s ½s. Naturally, the 1s evade from 1c would have to be reduced to ¾s, but the trade-off is accessing it faster due to shorter cast times in the chain.

Two-Handed Training could also use bump to the damage modifier from 5% to 10%

Even if you reduced the casting time, you would have to buff greatsword to such a degree where the animations would be so quick, it’d look bad. Now apply perma quickness on raids, I don’t think that will work.

And reaper greatsword is not an example you want to use.

It’s an atrocious weapon, slower than the others while all of the abilities despite being significantly slower also doing significantly less DPS than thief or tempest autoattacks.

2-handed training trait is also horrendous. 3 fury on a 10 sec icd is just pathetic, there should be no ICD. Warrior greatsword trait gives them the modifier AND like 12-13 might off 100b, which is far more powerful than fury.

Rangers need more practical ways of might stacking that don’t involve wasting your heal just to copy boons.

I’d rather the trait increase GS damage by 10% and crit damage by 10% on top of its cd reduction.

Greatsword should be our big damage weapon since mainhand sword has utility in the offhands, be they pulls or reflects or extra evades or aoe might/swiftness/fury.

The final chain of greatsword autoattack should also apply a 3 second cripple, and so should swoop (or swoop could root the target for 1 second if you hit them).

Maul needs a damage increase around 40% (it would still hit for way less than a Vault from thief or ele overload).

Hilt Bash needs to not root you and always be a stun. I don’t get why they’re obsessed on psotionals with the ranger, when those should be on thief who has way better mobility.

Zenith.7301:

Even if you reduced the casting time, you would have to buff greatsword to such a degree where the animations would be so quick, it’d look bad. Now apply perma quickness on raids, I don’t think that will work.

Because we all cared about the animation when they reduced Rapid Fire’s cast time from 5 seconds to 2,5.
And we all mentioned it at least once in the forums. [/s]

No, this argument is not valid. No one cares about speed of the attack animation. If all GS skills got reduced cast time – it would be a great improvement. #5 would improve QoL by 10 million, #4 counter would be a massive QoL, #3 and #2 are kinda unimportant and #1 would be a much loved DPS increase.

I see no reason why reduced attack animations would be a problem.

About traps. I want them more potent in damage. I want that more than I want secondary effects to them.

In pvp, if I step on a DH booby trapped point, I may get more or less ‘one-shotted’. Ranger traps are mostly only dangerous to zerker thieves.

Chokolata.1870:

- Hornets sting cast time decreased to 1/4 or removed

Hornet sting should evade from the moment you press the button ‘til the animation is finished. I don’t care about the damage, remove that from Hornet sting and add it to Monarch’s leap instead. Sword #2 fixed once and for all.

OGDeadHead.8326:

About traps. I want them more potent in damage. I want that more than I want secondary effects to them.

In pvp, if I step on a DH booby trapped point, I may get more or less ‘one-shotted’. Ranger traps are mostly only dangerous to zerker thieves.

The thing it though, DH and Ranger traps have different uses. Yes DH trap are the “one shot boom ultra mega smexy damage” but the ranger traps offer more CC with the changes, especially with the addition of non damaging conditions.

I do not know about you but I would like to keep it that way, I do not want our traps to be a clone of DH traps.

Tragic Positive.9356:

Zenith.7301:

Even if you reduced the casting time, you would have to buff greatsword to such a degree where the animations would be so quick, it’d look bad. Now apply perma quickness on raids, I don’t think that will work.

Because we all cared about the animation when they reduced Rapid Fire’s cast time from 5 seconds to 2,5.
And we all mentioned it at least once in the forums. [/s]

No, this argument is not valid. No one cares about speed of the attack animation. If all GS skills got reduced cast time – it would be a great improvement. #5 would improve QoL by 10 million, #4 counter would be a massive QoL, #3 and #2 are kinda unimportant and #1 would be a much loved DPS increase.

I see no reason why reduced attack animations would be a problem.

Because it’s a dumb way of buffing numbers that’s all around inferior. You proc confusion more. You proc retaliation more.

All for a roundabout way of buffing a weapon that only need % damage increases.

Your animation speed increase instead of % damage increase is a numbers buff with far more downsides.

And, yes, I care about character animations. Maybe you don’t, but plenty of people do.

I don’t want to imagine 1/4-1/5 sec cast attacks with quickness up, it’s just dumb.

Zenith.7301:

Tragic Positive.9356:

Zenith.7301:

Even if you reduced the casting time, you would have to buff greatsword to such a degree where the animations would be so quick, it’d look bad. Now apply perma quickness on raids, I don’t think that will work.

Because we all cared about the animation when they reduced Rapid Fire’s cast time from 5 seconds to 2,5.
And we all mentioned it at least once in the forums. [/s]

No, this argument is not valid. No one cares about speed of the attack animation. If all GS skills got reduced cast time – it would be a great improvement. #5 would improve QoL by 10 million, #4 counter would be a massive QoL, #3 and #2 are kinda unimportant and #1 would be a much loved DPS increase.

I see no reason why reduced attack animations would be a problem.

Because it’s a dumb way of buffing numbers that’s all around inferior. You proc confusion more. You proc retaliation more.

All for a roundabout way of buffing a weapon that only need % damage increases.

Your animation speed increase instead of % damage increase is a numbers buff with far more downsides.

And, yes, I care about character animations. Maybe you don’t, but plenty of people do.

I don’t want to imagine 1/4-1/5 sec cast attacks with quickness up, it’s just dumb.

I agree with this. Increase damage, not attack speed. And from a dev pov, which one is easier?
Two handed sword needs more damage on autoattack chain pure and simple.

StickerHappy.8052:

I do not know about you but I would like to keep it that way, I do not want our traps to be a clone of DH traps.

Agree, I don’t want clones of DH traps. But we were the original trap using class (together with thieves). In steps this new kid with OUR tools that perform way better than ours.

I don’t care if it’s called an elite spec, that should not matter. Ranger traps needs more damage. If not, the extras they ought to bring should really be worth it. If I set up three traps on point, and someone steps on them, they should punish that guy severely. Heck, I just blew all three of my utlities – make’em count.

Another option of course is to reduce cd, especially on Spike trap. The launch effect is not so powerful to make this trap needing a 45 seconds cd (untraited).

OGDeadHead.8326:

StickerHappy.8052:

I do not know about you but I would like to keep it that way, I do not want our traps to be a clone of DH traps.

Agree, I don’t want clones of DH traps. But we were the original trap using class (together with thieves). In steps this new kid with OUR tools that perform way better than ours.

I don’t care if it’s called an elite spec, that should not matter. Ranger traps needs more damage. If not, the extras they ought to bring should really be worth it. If I set up three traps on point, and someone steps on them, they should punish that guy severely. Heck, I just blew all three of my utlities – make’em count.

Another option of course is to reduce cd, especially on Spike trap. The launch effect is not so powerful to make this trap needing a 45 seconds cd (untraited).

Doesnt pulse either. A random clone or AI can waste that 45 second CD.

I suggested that make our traps ground targeted again baseline. Only for us. So atleast we have that uniqueness.

Zenith.7301:

Because it’s a dumb way of buffing numbers that’s all around inferior. You proc confusion more. You proc retaliation more.

All for a roundabout way of buffing a weapon that only need % damage increases.

Your animation speed increase instead of % damage increase is a numbers buff with far more downsides.

And, yes, I care about character animations. Maybe you don’t, but plenty of people do.

I don’t want to imagine 1/4-1/5 sec cast attacks with quickness up, it’s just dumb.

You have confusion, don’t attack. You see retaliation, don’t attack. At this late in the game, those are not issues.

It’s also a decent way of buffing numbers. Even if cast speeds aren’t reduced, after-casts and contact points reductions as found on the sword and dagger tweaks on Thief weapons (or Ranger axe) helps tremendously.

GS could use a bit of both: a reduction in those times and increase of damage. Having both would be great, but in GS case, after-cast and contact times could use some tightening up. Hilt Bash & the actual Counterattack (the kick portion) could use a faster cast time.

StickerHappy.8052:

OGDeadHead.8326:

Another option of course is to reduce cd, especially on Spike trap. The launch effect is not so powerful to make this trap needing a 45 seconds cd (untraited).

Doesnt pulse either. A random clone or AI can waste that 45 second CD.

I think that’s one of the good things about Spike Trap not pulsing: all the effects are front-loaded on its trigger, especially due to a lack of a combo field.

It could have been worse, launching an opponent on trigger and then lingering around for 3s, only inflicting 2 stacks of bleed per pulse with no combo field like Thief Caltrops. If anything, I want the 45-second cooldown justified and not lowered.

Harder hitting direct damage, a bit longer bleeding duration, and some immobilization thrown in the mix to act as a secondary snare against foes that already have stability. Would be excellent then.

StickerHappy.8052:

I suggested that make our traps ground targeted again baseline. Only for us. So atleast we have that uniqueness.

I dont actually like ground targeting when it comes to traps, so if anything, it should be an option (not a trait, but an option under settings).

Wondrouswall.7169:

Zenith.7301:

Because it’s a dumb way of buffing numbers that’s all around inferior. You proc confusion more. You proc retaliation more.

All for a roundabout way of buffing a weapon that only need % damage increases.

Your animation speed increase instead of % damage increase is a numbers buff with far more downsides.

And, yes, I care about character animations. Maybe you don’t, but plenty of people do.

I don’t want to imagine 1/4-1/5 sec cast attacks with quickness up, it’s just dumb.

You have confusion, don’t attack. You see retaliation, don’t attack. At this late in the game, those are not issues.

It’s also a decent way of buffing numbers. Even if cast speeds aren’t reduced, after-casts and contact points reductions as found on the sword and dagger tweaks on Thief weapons (or Ranger axe) helps tremendously.

GS could use a bit of both: a reduction in those times and increase of damage. Having both would be great, but in GS case, after-cast and contact times could use some tightening up. Hilt Bash & the actual Counterattack (the kick portion) could use a faster cast time.

StickerHappy.8052:

OGDeadHead.8326:

Another option of course is to reduce cd, especially on Spike trap. The launch effect is not so powerful to make this trap needing a 45 seconds cd (untraited).

Doesnt pulse either. A random clone or AI can waste that 45 second CD.

I think that’s one of the good things about Spike Trap not pulsing: all the effects are front-loaded on its trigger, especially due to a lack of a combo field.

It could have been worse, launching an opponent on trigger and then lingering around for 3s, only inflicting 2 stacks of bleed per pulse with no combo field like Thief Caltrops. If anything, I want the 45-second cooldown justified and not lowered.

Harder hitting direct damage, a bit longer bleeding duration, and some immobilization thrown in the mix to act as a secondary snare against foes that already have stability. Would be excellent then.

Yeah, it’s not like in WvW people have perma retaliation against any decent frontline composed of 7-10 guardians.

Don’t attack, guys, just let them roll over you while you do 0 DPS. Great idea.

Don’t attack during confusion. Duh? Point is, the attack speed suggestion adds a special penalty to the ranger against retaliation and confusion that other classes don’t have.

Buff the numbers, and the aftercasts are not an issue.

It’s the same problem with necromancer greatsword attacks. The aftercasts would not be an issue if when you DO connect, the reward is proportionate to the time investment. Which it isn’t.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with the cast times.

In closed beta, greatsword rangers were amazing melee. Because their numbers were good. Just like necromancers.

Then, both rangers and necromancers got annihilated with numbers nerfs and haven’t recovered ever since.

It’s like a worse form of revenant. Revenants started great numbers wise, and a train of nerfs has been eroding the class into near irrelevance in PvE as a result.

OGDeadHead.8326:

StickerHappy.8052:

I suggested that make our traps ground targeted again baseline. Only for us. So atleast we have that uniqueness.

I dont actually like ground targeting when it comes to traps, so if anything, it should be an option (not a trait, but an option under settings).

What would you changes do you propose tho?

Zenith.7301:

And, yes, I care about character animations. Maybe you don’t, but plenty of people do.

I don’t want to imagine 1/4-1/5 sec cast attacks with quickness up, it’s just dumb.

All of our animations… Actually all animations, not just ours – under quickness look unrealistic and dumb already. I still don’t see your point.

Let me guess…
… We never had problems with Maul being the most obvious burst-attack ranger had? And haven’t we ever had problems to hit it since it was so slow that every enemy just dodged it one-handed?

Attack Speed is one of the main issues in the game. While every single class has everything instant and bursty, we have delay on every bloody ability in this game (not to mention that our only burst ability hits for less than auto-attack of other classes), forcing us into twice the effort for still less reward.

Less reaction time is a drastic QoL improvement. I can’t blame you for having priorities in cosmetics over game-play, but I and a lot of others would rather play an entertaining game than a game that looks nice.
Having both is a luxury that I don’t remember having in this game.

P.S. I’m not saying other ideas are bad. I’m just saying reducing attack animations is a solution that solves a lot.

Tragic Positive.9356:

Zenith.7301:

And, yes, I care about character animations. Maybe you don’t, but plenty of people do.

I don’t want to imagine 1/4-1/5 sec cast attacks with quickness up, it’s just dumb.

All of our animations… Actually all animations, not just ours – under quickness look unrealistic and dumb already. I still don’t see your point.

Let me guess…
… We never had problems with Maul being the most obvious burst-attack ranger had? And haven’t we ever had problems to hit it since it was so slow that every enemy just dodged it one-handed?

Attack Speed is one of the main issues in the game. While every single class has everything instant and bursty, we have delay on every bloody ability in this game (not to mention that our only burst ability hits for less than auto-attack of other classes), forcing us into twice the effort for still less reward.

Less reaction time is a drastic QoL improvement. I can’t blame you for having priorities in cosmetics over game-play, but I and a lot of others would rather play an entertaining game than a game that looks nice.
Having both is a luxury that I don’t remember having in this game.

P.S. I’m not saying other ideas are bad. I’m just saying reducing attack animations is a solution that solves a lot.

The problem is not with the animations. It’s the toolkit.

Warrior skills cast slower and have even more tells than ours. So do elementalists. Look at how obvious Burning Speed and Fire grab are, or Dragon’s Tooth.

The problem is:

1- They actually have the built in CC to land their skills. Our CC has huge cd’s compared to theirs, and I don’t understand why Hilt Bash isn’t a guaranteed stun like their shield charge. Warriors have plenty of access to roots, knockdowns, and stuns.

2- When their skills land, they actually hurt. Maul hits like a wet noodle EVEN if it lands. Their greatsword whirlwind hurts a lot besides 100b. So does Arcing Slice and Rush.

Virtually all our weapon skills outside Whirling Defense and Rapid Fire hit for nothing.

3- Warriors have the tools to wait out opponents’ cd’s to land their cc and burst. They have endure pain, another endure pain proc passively at low health, shield stance which is just a better form of Counterattack, a signet that passively heals for a metric ton, and their condi removal/immunity is miles better with zerker stance and cleansing ire.

Rangers have…..Signet of Stone, on a 20 sec longer cd than Endure pain, no stability on activation, and no passive trait proc at lower health. Our condi clear sucks.

4- Our sustained pressure sucks. Because our autoattacks suck and deal small numbers of damage, we can’t burst like a warrior autoing you with greatsword or thief or revenant. If a target survives our “burst”, they heal back up to full and we have no pressure to keep them from recovering.

5- We have no aoe worth a kitten . Warrior, ele have it in spades, allowing them to deal better with the likes of mesmers and necromancers, and being far more useful in group settings.

6- Warriors and eles can self buff without gimmicks like wasting your heal with Heal as One just to gain boons. 12 might stacks is super easy at the minimum to get with a warrior or ele without building gimmick builds that are kitten in other ways.

7- Melee pets outside drakes don’t cleave, unlike all other classes whose entirety of their melee attacks cleave. This makes our already bad AoE even worse.

If the pets could actually hit targets, and we had control over dog knockdowns and F2 skills were instant or 1/4 sec casts at most and usable while moving, we’d have a lot less trouble controlling opponents to hit them with our skills (who still need numbers buffs, especially greatsword).

It’s also a matter of all our pet skills and F2 skills having humongous cooldowns relative to what other classes have.

Snow leopard has a ridiculous 30 sec cd for a leap with a miserable 2 sec chill. All cat leaps should share the same 10 sec cd tiger does, and buff leopard chill to 3 seconds and make it also weaken the target.

@ Zenith
Yes.
To all of it. Hands down, this all combined is an illogical nightmare.

Zenith.7301:

Tragic Positive.9356:

Zenith.7301:

And, yes, I care about character animations. Maybe you don’t, but plenty of people do.

I don’t want to imagine 1/4-1/5 sec cast attacks with quickness up, it’s just dumb.

All of our animations… Actually all animations, not just ours – under quickness look unrealistic and dumb already. I still don’t see your point.

Let me guess…
… We never had problems with Maul being the most obvious burst-attack ranger had? And haven’t we ever had problems to hit it since it was so slow that every enemy just dodged it one-handed?

Attack Speed is one of the main issues in the game. While every single class has everything instant and bursty, we have delay on every bloody ability in this game (not to mention that our only burst ability hits for less than auto-attack of other classes), forcing us into twice the effort for still less reward.

Less reaction time is a drastic QoL improvement. I can’t blame you for having priorities in cosmetics over game-play, but I and a lot of others would rather play an entertaining game than a game that looks nice.
Having both is a luxury that I don’t remember having in this game.

P.S. I’m not saying other ideas are bad. I’m just saying reducing attack animations is a solution that solves a lot.

The problem is not with the animations. It’s the toolkit.

Warrior skills cast slower and have even more tells than ours. So do elementalists. Look at how obvious Burning Speed and Fire grab are, or Dragon’s Tooth.

The problem is:

1- They actually have the built in CC to land their skills. Our CC has huge cd’s compared to theirs, and I don’t understand why Hilt Bash isn’t a guaranteed stun like their shield charge. Warriors have plenty of access to roots, knockdowns, and stuns.

2- When their skills land, they actually hurt. Maul hits like a wet noodle EVEN if it lands. Their greatsword whirlwind hurts a lot besides 100b. So does Arcing Slice and Rush.

Virtually all our weapon skills outside Whirling Defense and Rapid Fire hit for nothing.

3- Warriors have the tools to wait out opponents’ cd’s to land their cc and burst. They have endure pain, another endure pain proc passively at low health, shield stance which is just a better form of Counterattack, a signet that passively heals for a metric ton, and their condi removal/immunity is miles better with zerker stance and cleansing ire.

Rangers have…..Signet of Stone, on a 20 sec longer cd than Endure pain, no stability on activation, and no passive trait proc at lower health. Our condi clear sucks.

4- Our sustained pressure sucks. Because our autoattacks suck and deal small numbers of damage, we can’t burst like a warrior autoing you with greatsword or thief or revenant. If a target survives our “burst”, they heal back up to full and we have no pressure to keep them from recovering.

5- We have no aoe worth a kitten . Warrior, ele have it in spades, allowing them to deal better with the likes of mesmers and necromancers, and being far more useful in group settings.

6- Warriors and eles can self buff without gimmicks like wasting your heal with Heal as One just to gain boons. 12 might stacks is super easy at the minimum to get with a warrior or ele without building gimmick builds that are kitten in other ways.

7- Melee pets outside drakes don’t cleave, unlike all other classes whose entirety of their melee attacks cleave. This makes our already bad AoE even worse.

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If the pets could actually hit targets, and we had control over dog knockdowns and F2 skills were instant or 1/4 sec casts at most and usable while moving, we’d have a lot less trouble controlling opponents to hit them with our skills (who still need numbers buffs, especially greatsword).

It’s also a matter of all our pet skills and F2 skills having humongous cooldowns relative to what other classes have.

Snow leopard has a ridiculous 30 sec cd for a leap with a miserable 2 sec chill. All cat leaps should share the same 10 sec cd tiger does, and buff leopard chill to 3 seconds and make it also weaken the target.

1.) Its not that they have a lot of CC (we have a lot more, Cripples, Immobs, etc), the classes you said also have superior condition removal making our CCs null. Another important one is those classes (the meta builds esp) all have -% CCs (mesmer GM minor, dogged march, Geomancer’s freedom) rendering our CCs non existent.

2.) This I agree, Maul is super telegraphed, when you see it coming you can interrupt, blind, (mesmers and thieves can do this instantly) dodge, invuln. Anddd. It doesn’t hurt a lot. Vs GS Burst skill? Lol. Burst skill happens instantly and wider AoE, and higher damage.

3.) This just a warrior issue, Ive dueled countless times and I tell you warriors are a pain now. Too much passive crap.

4.) Conditions are still good. We need buffs to weapon sets like SB and axe if you want sustained damage. I hope we get them soon. SB IMO is the worse weapon in the game at its current state right now. Warhorn and Axe a close second, all belonging to rangers.

5.) AoE, We do, But they are traps so yea…

6.) Technically we can do this too without gimmicks, Zephyr’s speed, Blast a fire field (torch, flame trap) with quickdraw, + WH 5 but again to your defense, too much investment, MDG did not vouch us out of this too.

7.) This one I agree too, we have very limited cleave access so maybe pet revamps or new pets could help with these. To be fair tho, mesmers also do not have cleave access that much yet they do fine.

StickerHappy.8052:

7.) This one I agree too, we have very limited cleave access so maybe pet revamps or new pets could help with these.

Do we really want new pets as an option to these issues though? With the time and effort they spent nerfing both the Smokescale and Bristleback 3 times, they could have touched on core pets and at least gave them some QoL such as cleaving auto attacks and/or lower cooldowns on F2 skills.

Not downing what you stated on that point, as I do hope there are some pet revamps done in the future. It just urks me knowing we might sooner receive a new pet in the next expansion that will address maybe 1 issue rather than all pets being improved.

Wondrouswall.7169:

StickerHappy.8052:

7.) This one I agree too, we have very limited cleave access so maybe pet revamps or new pets could help with these.

Do we really want new pets as an option to these issues though? With the time and effort they spent nerfing both the Smokescale and Bristleback 3 times, they could have touched on core pets and at least gave them some QoL such as cleaving auto attacks and/or lower cooldowns on F2 skills.

Not downing what you stated on that point, as I do hope there are some pet revamps done in the future. It just urks me knowing we might sooner receive a new pet in the next expansion that will address maybe 1 issue rather than all pets being improved.

I totally agree with what you are saying. But let’s face it, I have no idea why Anet does not want to buff core pets (might be a time schedule/ too much work issue OR what I fear the most is this is an upper division problem that prevents devs from doing anything)

If you ask me, I would change a lot of the core pets’ f2s and make them more utility than damage AS LONG as they fix the hitboxes on the pets. One can only dream though.

The number one thing i’d say is needed is a complete balance pass on all of our pets, every pet family should have a role/niche and they should be balanced around said niche. It’s obvious that’s the intent, but a lot of them are so horribly dated that they desperately need love, EX: Moas are clearly meant for support, but only have an F2 and a heal that really fill that role (sadly). And Pigs are meant to be tanky, but i mean that’s all they’ve got since their awesome stun doesn’t hit enough, and their bleed attack might as well just be their auto.

StickerHappy.8052:

Wondrouswall.7169:

StickerHappy.8052:

7.) This one I agree too, we have very limited cleave access so maybe pet revamps or new pets could help with these.

Do we really want new pets as an option to these issues though? With the time and effort they spent nerfing both the Smokescale and Bristleback 3 times, they could have touched on core pets and at least gave them some QoL such as cleaving auto attacks and/or lower cooldowns on F2 skills.

Not downing what you stated on that point, as I do hope there are some pet revamps done in the future. It just urks me knowing we might sooner receive a new pet in the next expansion that will address maybe 1 issue rather than all pets being improved.

I totally agree with what you are saying. But let’s face it, I have no idea why Anet does not want to buff core pets (might be a time schedule/ too much work issue OR what I fear the most is this is an upper division problem that prevents devs from doing anything)

If you ask me, I would change a lot of the core pets’ f2s and make them more utility than damage AS LONG as they fix the hitboxes on the pets. One can only dream though.

Anet doesn’t buff core pets because the guy behind core ranger was Robert Hrouda (who was also dungeon lead), and when they let him go somebody else came in (Roy, revenant dev), and then after roy they swapped us Irenio aka healbot dev.

So they basically always abandon the project of a predecessor for their own new one, and old crap remains crap.

Welcome to Anet, where you get a new dev/dev team wanting to each do their own thing and there’s no continuity in their schizophrenic design approach to class balancing.

Now they don’t even bother to send devs into these forums unless it’s an expansion about to be released and sold.

Instead we get the PvP community rep guy. Who obviously won’t do much of a good job covering PvE concerns with the class.

The Druid is a great specialization that fulfills a certain niche the game was sorely lacking. And , for the most part, the Druid is very much viable and/or meta in most areas of the game.

Having said that, we do need a proper competitive DPS and condition build. Preferably one that is not necessarily tied to the Druid.

As far as DPS goes, and I mean POWER DPS, the core of the issue lies with our melee power weapons lacking damage, both base values and scaling, and some of our trait lines being kind of meh.
For Example, Marksman line offers a lot of damage modifiers, but the three minor traits are pretty much worthless without Remorseless.

As far as Conditions go, the Skirmishing line is something that should be necessary for a proper build, but it is also the reason why Ranger condition builds are sub par. Trappers expertise conflicts with sharpened edges. Spotter conflicts Hidden Barbs. Also, Shortbow is still kind of bad.

So, in order to push the DPS part of the ranger, I would suggest thus (some of the ideas are actually from earlier posts in the topic from other people):

Marksman:
- Opening and Alpha strike merged into adept minor
- Remorseless made into a grand master minor
- new Grand master major: something centered around defense/sustain
- Predators instinct (Adept Major) changed to cripple and 5 stacks of vulnerability for 3 seconds every 5 seconds when scoring a critical hit.

Skirmishing:
- tailwind and furious grip merged into one minor trait
- sharpened edges new minor trait
- hidden barbs merged into hunters tactics as a minor trait – 33% more bleeding damage, 10% extra critical chance vs bleeding foes
- New adept minor : Carnivorous appetite – You and your pet steal health when using basic attacks.
- New master trait – cast a spike trap when dazed/stunned/feared/etc (look at DH trait and trap changes below)

Traps:
- Trait now gives HS 1 second of vigor pulses
- Spike trap is now a stun breaker. CD reduced from 45 to 35 seconds
- Frost trap pulses slow as well as providing 3 seconds of resistance to party on activation. CD reduced from 30 to 25 seconds
- Flame trap pulses 3 seconds of blind on top of bleeding
- Vipers nest pulses 3 seconds of weakness and 3 stacks vulnerability

Shortbow:
- auto attack base damage increased
- auto attack flanking for bleeding req removed
- Poison volley stacks 2 poison per arrow up from 1
- Evasive shot clears 2 conditions
- Crippling shot inflicts 1.5s of immob if flanking
- Concussive shot inflicts 2 confusion, 4 if flanking

Wilderness survival:
- Poison master and the other poison trait merged into one
- new Master major trait: TBD

Nature magic:
- Vigorous training provides 2 stacks of might on top of vigor when pet swapping to the party
- Evasive purity ICD removed or reduced to 3-5s (its a very niche condition clear. Really do not think it needs a 10s ICD)

Warhorn:
- Hunters call damage increased considerably. 100-200% It is just so bad. Alternativelly allow it to transfer 2-3 conditions to target.

Beastmastery:
- Honed axes – If using axe in main hand condition damage is increased by 150, If using axe in off hand, ferocity is increased by 250. AoE winters bite is now baseline

Axes:
- auto attack base damage increased. Scaling coefficient increased. Damage redistributed to the first hit being the strongest and dropping off per target

Sword:
- auto attack damage and scaling increased
- Hornets sting either removed cast time or evasive frames starting right away

Great sword:
- auto attack damage increased

I just want staff to work underwater.

Chokolata.1870:

The Druid is a great specialization that fulfills a certain niche the game was sorely lacking. And , for the most part, the Druid is very much viable and/or meta in most areas of the game.

Having said that, we do need a proper competitive DPS and condition build. Preferably one that is not necessarily tied to the Druid.

As far as DPS goes, and I mean POWER DPS, the core of the issue lies with our melee power weapons lacking damage, both base values and scaling, and some of our trait lines being kind of meh.
For Example, Marksman line offers a lot of damage modifiers, but the three minor traits are pretty much worthless without Remorseless.

As far as Conditions go, the Skirmishing line is something that should be necessary for a proper build, but it is also the reason why Ranger condition builds are sub par. Trappers expertise conflicts with sharpened edges. Spotter conflicts Hidden Barbs. Also, Shortbow is still kind of bad.

So, in order to push the DPS part of the ranger, I would suggest thus (some of the ideas are actually from earlier posts in the topic from other people):

Marksman:
- Opening and Alpha strike merged into adept minor
- Remorseless made into a grand master minor
- new Grand master major: something centered around defense/sustain
- Predators instinct (Adept Major) changed to cripple and 5 stacks of vulnerability for 3 seconds every 5 seconds when scoring a critical hit.

Skirmishing:
- tailwind and furious grip merged into one minor trait
- sharpened edges new minor trait
- hidden barbs merged into hunters tactics as a minor trait – 33% more bleeding damage, 10% extra critical chance vs bleeding foes
- New adept minor : Carnivorous appetite – You and your pet steal health when using basic attacks.
- New master trait – cast a spike trap when dazed/stunned/feared/etc (look at DH trait and trap changes below)

Traps:
- Trait now gives HS 1 second of vigor pulses
- Spike trap is now a stun breaker. CD reduced from 45 to 35 seconds
- Frost trap pulses slow as well as providing 3 seconds of resistance to party on activation. CD reduced from 30 to 25 seconds
- Flame trap pulses 3 seconds of blind on top of bleeding
- Vipers nest pulses 3 seconds of weakness and 3 stacks vulnerability

Shortbow:
- auto attack base damage increased
- auto attack flanking for bleeding req removed
- Poison volley stacks 2 poison per arrow up from 1
- Evasive shot clears 2 conditions
- Crippling shot inflicts 1.5s of immob if flanking
- Concussive shot inflicts 2 confusion, 4 if flanking

Wilderness survival:
- Poison master and the other poison trait merged into one
- new Master major trait: TBD

Nature magic:
- Vigorous training provides 2 stacks of might on top of vigor when pet swapping to the party
- Evasive purity ICD removed or reduced to 3-5s (its a very niche condition clear. Really do not think it needs a 10s ICD)

Warhorn:
- Hunters call damage increased considerably. 100-200% It is just so bad. Alternativelly allow it to transfer 2-3 conditions to target.

Beastmastery:
- Honed axes – If using axe in main hand condition damage is increased by 150, If using axe in off hand, ferocity is increased by 250. AoE winters bite is now baseline

Axes:
- auto attack base damage increased. Scaling coefficient increased. Damage redistributed to the first hit being the strongest and dropping off per target

Sword:
- auto attack damage and scaling increased
- Hornets sting either removed cast time or evasive frames starting right away

Great sword:
- auto attack damage increased

I agree with almost everything here, especially trait merging, traps and axe auto attack. I don’t agree with “Concussive shot inflicts 2 confusion, 4 if flanking”, daze is way more powerful than confusion, so keep the daze.
Honed Axes GM trait too weak, especially if making Winter’s bite AOE baseline. Would definitely need something more to be worthy of GM trait status.

StickerHappy.8052:

Wondrouswall.7169:

StickerHappy.8052:

7.) This one I agree too, we have very limited cleave access so maybe pet revamps or new pets could help with these.

Do we really want new pets as an option to these issues though? With the time and effort they spent nerfing both the Smokescale and Bristleback 3 times, they could have touched on core pets and at least gave them some QoL such as cleaving auto attacks and/or lower cooldowns on F2 skills.

Not downing what you stated on that point, as I do hope there are some pet revamps done in the future. It just urks me knowing we might sooner receive a new pet in the next expansion that will address maybe 1 issue rather than all pets being improved.

I totally agree with what you are saying. But let’s face it, I have no idea why Anet does not want to buff core pets (might be a time schedule/ too much work issue OR what I fear the most is this is an upper division problem that prevents devs from doing anything)

If you ask me, I would change a lot of the core pets’ f2s and make them more utility than damage AS LONG as they fix the hitboxes on the pets. One can only dream though.

Anet isn’t going to buff core pets for the same reason they aren’t going to buff core specs.

A key selling point of HoT was power creep and it’s going to remain a key point until HoT becomes base in the free2play version, though we’ll just get power creep 2.0 at that point anyway.

The real mystery is why the wyverns are still complete trash outside of break bar burning?

They are both useless in pvp and nearly unusable in pve outside of the lighting wyverns f2 which is probably only about as good as a wolf howling and leaping but with much worse dps.

Substance E.4852:

The real mystery is why the wyverns are still complete trash outside of break bar burning?

They are both useless in pvp and nearly unusable in pve outside of the lighting wyverns f2 which is probably only about as good as a wolf howling and leaping but with much worse dps.

Because they only “fix” (lol!) beneficial things when it comes to this class…

Substance E.4852:

Anet isn’t going to buff core pets for the same reason they aren’t going to buff core specs.

A key selling point of HoT was power creep and it’s going to remain a key point until HoT becomes base in the free2play version, though we’ll just get power creep 2.0 at that point anyway.

Indeed. It was exactly the same with GW1. Not until the game was almost dead did they fix some long standing core issues, at least for pve (like you were forced to have Charm Animal equipped just to even be able to bring a pet with you).

OGDeadHead.8326:

Substance E.4852:

Anet isn’t going to buff core pets for the same reason they aren’t going to buff core specs.

A key selling point of HoT was power creep and it’s going to remain a key point until HoT becomes base in the free2play version, though we’ll just get power creep 2.0 at that point anyway.

Indeed. It was exactly the same with GW1. Not until the game was almost dead did they fix some long standing core issues, at least for pve (like you were forced to have Charm Animal equipped just to even be able to bring a pet with you).

To be fair though, a stated pet was basically an extra hammer warrior in your party so it did make some sense.

I barely used it after the change anyway since they removed the ability to res minions from pet corpses long before the revive pet change.

Spirit Improvement:

Changed to: when cast, pray to the spirit and gain its power. So the player has the function of spirit, ie to provide buffs as mobile spirit itself.

While I mostly play casual PvE, and sometimes play sPvP I just wanted to add some of my ideas. I believe every trait line should support a specific playstyle. Right now some of the traits feel lacking in achieving said playstyle (for example Skirmishing). In this thread I’ve already read several good suggestions. So I’ll shall use some of these and elaborate on the ideas.

These are the changes I would suggest, for these changes I’ve tied trait lines to corresponding weapons. Also I’ve tried to give a short summary of the playstyle I think goes well with the trait line.

Skirmishing
Corresponding weapons: Short Bow, Sword and Dagger
Playstyle: Highly mobile playstyle with hybrid damage and Traps.

Short Bow – Hypermobile hybrid weapon

Sword & Dagger – Stab, Evade, Repeat

This is what I think about the Skirmishing trait line, the Short Bow, Sword and Dagger. Maybe I’ll do another one later.

My biggest concern with our dps options isn’t the actual damage of our weapons or our pets. We have the burst to nail someone. If it hits. My issue is that most of our damage is so EASILY negated. That what damage we have left doesn’t really matter.

Methods to make our sustained damage more reliable would make our damage builds MUCH more viable.

Our pets hitting more often, The ability to make our attacks unblockable in certain circumstances like when attacking from behind with specific weapons.

Without changes to make us more reliable as dpsers. All the survivability changes, all the damage boosts. It won’t be enough to bring our dps builds back into favor. And worse it will likely just further buff our druid builds.

I just wish Ranger could do something other than roam in WvW. The pet is worthless in any large scale fighting. Would love to see a way for the pet to disappear to buff the ranger / party.

I’d really like to see an Elite Trap added. Since its missing in GW2, how about the Dust Trap? I think it would be cool if it pulsed torment, blind, and maybe weakness on a fairly short cooldown.

Dust Trap was planned as a normal utility at one point, but was never implemented.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dust_Trap

Personally, if we ever received an Elite trap, I would rather have Smoke Trap from GW1 instead, since it inflicted both blind & daze. It would at least have some trait synergy with MoC and Ancient Seeds.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Smoke_Trap

Most Dangerous Game
While ranger is at under 75% hp

• gain 1 might for 8 seconds every second.
• 50% chance on crit to gain 10 seconds Fury. ICD 15 seconds.
  while ranger is under 50% hp
• 66% chance on crit to gain 3 seconds of quickness. ICD 15 seconds.
• 66% chance on crit to steal some life. ICD 1 second.

signet of the wild – make it instant cast and break stuns, remove the extra 25% dmg over 8 secs. reduce base cooldown by 10-20 secs.

signet of the hunt – active effect extra 25% dmg over x secs instead.

niconori.7235:

signet of the wild – make it instant cast and break stuns, remove the extra 25% dmg over 8 secs. reduce base cooldown by 10-20 secs.

signet of the hunt – active effect extra 25% dmg over x secs instead.

That’s backwards. It’s signet of the hunt which should break stuns and grant superspeed.

Signet of the Wild needs passive switched away from that useless 70-80 hp heal into the same power stat boost thieves/necro/warrior get. Make the active a 1/4 sec cast and reduce cd to 30 seconds, increase duration to 10 seconds.

Zenith.7301:

That’s backwards. It’s signet of the hunt which should break stuns and grant superspeed.

Signet of the Wild needs passive switched away from that useless 70-80 hp heal into the same power stat boost thieves/necro/warrior get. Make the active a 1/4 sec cast and reduce cd to 30 seconds, increase duration to 10 seconds.

25% extra dmg 5 stacks of stabs on 10 sec duration with a 30 sec cd base. Are you insane?

niconori.7235:

25% extra dmg 5 stacks of stabs on 10 sec duration with a 30 sec cd base. Are you insane?

don’t be such a drama queen dude.

in plain numbers our best weapon:Longbow, would do in pure zerker around 3.2k on crit to low toughness.

HamRev does 4k on crit always. if anet doesnt buff all weapons dps you can safetly buff the signet.

anduriell.6280:

niconori.7235:

25% extra dmg 5 stacks of stabs on 10 sec duration with a 30 sec cd base. Are you insane?

don’t be such a drama queen dude.

in plain numbers our best weapon:Longbow, would do in pure zerker around 3.2k on crit to low toughness.

HamRev does 4k on crit always. if anet doesnt buff all weapons dps you can safetly buff the signet.

Weapon buffs are better than some ridiculous, overbuffed utility skill. They can’t “safely” buff one utility skill because they would have to consider it every time they’re considering buffing something else. Think for a second.

People just pile on buffs on top of eachother without considering how freakishly huge that pile just got. Like reworking the entire Skirmishing line with something that essentially would result in a buff to all the minor and major traits you get from that line. That’s a huge jump.

Wait until the 26th for the update. I feel as though this thread has out-lived its usefulness. We stated our concerns, feedback, suggestions, and had plenty of good discussions – enough to receive a red post.

I hear there’s going to be an actual split between modes, so, there’s maybe some glimmer of having things that are underwhelming in one mode can be brought up to be more effective within its own viability in the other.

Just gotta wait for the big content patch ’round the corner. Keep those expectations low like the fruit on the ground, guard up for any nerfs, and excitement to a minimum on any good stuff we might get (since those usually receiving “shaves” within a day or two of going live).

Wondrouswall.7169:

Wait until the 26th for the update. I feel as though this thread has out-lived its usefulness. We stated our concerns, feedback, suggestions, and had plenty of good discussions – enough to receive a red post.

I hear there’s going to be an actual split between modes, so, there’s maybe some glimmer of having things that are underwhelming in one mode can be brought up to be more effective within its own viability in the other.

Just gotta wait for the big content patch ’round the corner. Keep those expectations low like the fruit on the ground, guard up for any nerfs, and excitement to a minimum on any good stuff we might get (since those usually receiving “shaves” within a day or two of going live).

yeh let’s see what happens….

However dont expect a massive split between modes what the dev said was that they have now a better tool to adjust numbers in different modes. So i wouldnt expect much of a change.

I don’t expect too many changes myself. I also expect underwhelming aspects such as Predator’s Instinct and Sharpening Stone to receive no changes. We’ll see though. As I said: keep expectations low.

niconori.7235:

Zenith.7301:

That’s backwards. It’s signet of the hunt which should break stuns and grant superspeed.

Signet of the Wild needs passive switched away from that useless 70-80 hp heal into the same power stat boost thieves/necro/warrior get. Make the active a 1/4 sec cast and reduce cd to 30 seconds, increase duration to 10 seconds.

25% extra dmg 5 stacks of stabs on 10 sec duration with a 30 sec cd base. Are you insane?

10 sec/30 sec= 0.33…

0.3… x25 = 8.3 % damage boost overall.

Basically, the signet is an inferior version of the damage modifier a thief gets from a minor trait that gives them 10% increased damage when a target has conditions.

Best damage modifier a ranger has is a 25% from marksman, assuming no endurance is ever spent and cripple/chill is permanent on a target.

Thief has 10% on a target with ANY condition (far easier to maintain….), 20% against targets under 50% health, 17% increased crit damage from traits (27% against targets above 50% health), 10% additional damage from bounding dodger (given their rate of endurance regen with staff mastery bounding dodger buff has near 100% uptime), 7% increased damage at melee range, another 10% from staff mastery.

So daredevil, with way higher number coefficients and base values than ranger, has:

-47% increased damage modifier vs. the 33.% ranger would have with my suggested Signet of the Wild, which also costs us a far more valuable utility slot vs. a trait slot.

-17-27% crit damage bonus modifier.

But somehow I’m the guy who’s insane just because you’re clueless about the damage and coefficients/modifiers other classes have access to.

This is why rangers are in the garbage state of DPS we’re in, because of people like you.

Zenith.7301:

10 sec/30 sec= 0.33…

0.3… x25 = 8.3 % damage boost overall.

Basically, the signet is an inferior version of the damage modifier a thief gets from a minor trait that gives them 10% increased damage when a target has conditions.

Best damage modifier a ranger has is a 25% from marksman, assuming no endurance is ever spent and cripple/chill is permanent on a target.

Thief has 10% on a target with ANY condition (far easier to maintain….), 20% against targets under 50% health, 17% increased crit damage from traits (27% against targets above 50% health), 10% additional damage from bounding dodger (given their rate of endurance regen with staff mastery bounding dodger buff has near 100% uptime), 7% increased damage at melee range, another 10% from staff mastery.

So daredevil, with way higher number coefficients and base values than ranger, has:

-47% increased damage modifier vs. the 33.% ranger would have with my suggested Signet of the Wild, which also costs us a far more valuable utility slot vs. a trait slot.

-17-27% crit damage bonus modifier.

But somehow I’m the guy who’s insane just because you’re clueless about the damage and coefficients/modifiers other classes have access to.

This is why rangers are in the garbage state of DPS we’re in, because of people like you.

So, all the while we were talking about changes for utility skills and you decided to derail into damage modifiers in traits. Right.. Totally off topic now.

And get your facts right though I have always lament the fact that we do not have enough personal dps, but Anet gave us party buffs and so we aren’t allowed to have high personal dps, or else it would be too op. Get it?

You would be better off keeping things separate and suggest a buff to traits than to lump everything together into a single utility skill.

niconori.7235:

Zenith.7301:

10 sec/30 sec= 0.33…

0.3… x25 = 8.3 % damage boost overall.

Basically, the signet is an inferior version of the damage modifier a thief gets from a minor trait that gives them 10% increased damage when a target has conditions.

Best damage modifier a ranger has is a 25% from marksman, assuming no endurance is ever spent and cripple/chill is permanent on a target.

Thief has 10% on a target with ANY condition (far easier to maintain….), 20% against targets under 50% health, 17% increased crit damage from traits (27% against targets above 50% health), 10% additional damage from bounding dodger (given their rate of endurance regen with staff mastery bounding dodger buff has near 100% uptime), 7% increased damage at melee range, another 10% from staff mastery.

So daredevil, with way higher number coefficients and base values than ranger, has:

-47% increased damage modifier vs. the 33.% ranger would have with my suggested Signet of the Wild, which also costs us a far more valuable utility slot vs. a trait slot.

-17-27% crit damage bonus modifier.

But somehow I’m the guy who’s insane just because you’re clueless about the damage and coefficients/modifiers other classes have access to.

This is why rangers are in the garbage state of DPS we’re in, because of people like you.

So, all the while we were talking about changes for utility skills and you decided to derail into damage modifiers in traits. Right.. Totally off topic now.

And get your facts right though I have always lament the fact that we do not have enough personal dps, but Anet gave us party buffs and so we aren’t allowed to have high personal dps, or else it would be too op. Get it?

You would be better off keeping things separate and suggest a buff to traits than to lump everything together into a single utility skill.

You complained about damage on a utility skill, I’m telling you the damage from that utility skill you are suggesting is too high amounts to 8.3% damage, lower than a minor trait let alone a 7.5% damage buff for an entire group from frost spirit (8.3% damage boost on a single target would make for a pretty bad utility if stability was not on it).

So, yeah, you’re pretty clueless.

And, no. Phalanx Strength Warriors outperform power druid by like…7k DPS and Phalanx Strength Warriors bring the greatest offensive buffs in the game with banners, Empower Allies and 25 stacks of might.

So spare me this bullcrap about not doing DPS because of group buffs, because revenants bring massive group buffing and do 30k DPS, or in essence 12k more DPS than power druid. Guardian hammer is 29k DPS, and that’s perma prot and healing.

Hell, if they nerfed Phalanx Warrior might stacking, elementalists would simply be running Heatsync on warhorn and still doing 34k+ DPS, on top of their stupid OP heal shout.

Holy kitten i just want breakstun with stab don’t fill me in with your nonsensical rants tyvm i know what other classes can do, but you don’t even think what happens when your suggestion get adopted, how many QQ thieves, mes, necs, ele would come to this forum. we’ll direct them to you when that happens.

Ignorant. I’m done with you.