Guild Wars 2

Heya fellow Rangers, I got a question.
Anyone know whether the new Remorseless trait, as revealed in yesterdays Ready Up show, replenishes opening strike on fury gain even when I’m already under the effect of fury or does it only trigger if I didn’t have fury before?

If it also applies when you’re already under the effect of fury, this would have some nice synergy with Rampage as One, since this elite reapplies fury every 3 seconds.

Btw, is the Opening srike for my pet recharged as well?

I believe skills that refresh boons at intervals will not count and it will refresh every time you receive fury – even if you already have it. Also, the tooltip during the POI indicated Remorseless will only refresh on the Ranger. Anet did not say otherwise, so there’s a chance it could be changed to apply to the pet as well, which will build better synergy between the player and the pet and with Fortifying Bond.

I think Remorseless just got awesome, some real synergy. RaO makes it kinda cool, but SoTF, Beastmasters Bond, Two Handed Training (THIS) and Furious Grip make it amazing! Combo those with a Sword/Warhorn and pack runes and you have some serious ability to recharge it and dish out mad damage.

I’d like to try something like;

Remorseless Beastmaster

GS S/WH
Hawk/Eagle

TU, MT, LR, QZ, RaO

Beastmaster’s Bond, Moment of Clarity, Remorseless

Expertise Training, Oakheart Salve, Wilderness Knowledge

Resounding Timbre, Two Handed Training, Zephyr’s Speed

You could use all Cavalier/valk armor/trinkets/weapons for a ton of sustain since you will have fury uptime and 100% chance to crit on OS, plus you would use intelligence sigil since you have no furious swap or precision.

I doubt they’d make the trait in such a way that standing next to an ally who’s trying to provide you boons would completely destroy the effectiveness of your build. More than likely it’s per application.

The whole fury pulsing every 3 seconds thing might get removed because of this trait now, and the only “pulser” being stability, with fury/swiftness having a set duration. It seems they want us to actively work for each remorseless reset, and RaO would just undermine that. Or alternatively add an ICD for the trait.

I think this thread just single handily caused Remorseless to get an ICD.

Also synergise amazingly with the GS trait, probably will get some ICD.

Sounds interesting. But!

Sword attack is on about a 1.5 second chain, with a little bit of post cast time, so when rampage is up, you get about 12.5% damage up- However, you give up predator’s onslaught, which is pretty much always a 10% increase, without the 2 minute cooldown. So you end up with a bit less than 2.5% over PO, but only when you have RaO active. Otherwise you’re down 10% damage, with small spikes here and there.

I don’t think it would be worth it. GS is also still much weaker than sword- it already did less damage, has a longer attack chain, and only gets a 5% compared to 10% buff in damage from traits. The Fury proc on GS also has an internal cooldown, so that’s not really reliable.

It definitely sounds like a fun build to try, and I don’t see it being unviable, but there are some tradeoffs. You get a large burst to start, and then fall off sustained until RaO comes back up. The 2 minute cooldown might be killer though.

remorseless + two-handed training is indeed amazing. big damage boost to the BM tanks.

Ltomato.8649:

Sounds interesting. But!

Sword attack is on about a 1.5 second chain, with a little bit of post cast time, so when rampage is up, you get about 12.5% damage up- However, you give up predator’s onslaught, which is pretty much always a 10% increase, without the 2 minute cooldown. So you end up with a bit less than 2.5% over PO, but only when you have RaO active. Otherwise you’re down 10% damage, with small spikes here and there.

I don’t think it would be worth it. GS is also still much weaker than sword- it already did less damage, has a longer attack chain, and only gets a 5% compared to 10% buff in damage from traits. The Fury proc on GS also has an internal cooldown, so that’s not really reliable.

It definitely sounds like a fun build to try, and I don’t see it being unviable, but there are some tradeoffs. You get a large burst to start, and then fall off sustained until RaO comes back up. The 2 minute cooldown might be killer though.

Bro, get outta my brain. lol

Summed up my thoughts perfectly.

GS + 2h Training + Remorseless is not for PvE.

TheFantasticGman.9451:

Ltomato.8649:

Sounds interesting. But!

Sword attack is on about a 1.5 second chain, with a little bit of post cast time, so when rampage is up, you get about 12.5% damage up- However, you give up predator’s onslaught, which is pretty much always a 10% increase, without the 2 minute cooldown. So you end up with a bit less than 2.5% over PO, but only when you have RaO active. Otherwise you’re down 10% damage, with small spikes here and there.

I don’t think it would be worth it. GS is also still much weaker than sword- it already did less damage, has a longer attack chain, and only gets a 5% compared to 10% buff in damage from traits. The Fury proc on GS also has an internal cooldown, so that’s not really reliable.

It definitely sounds like a fun build to try, and I don’t see it being unviable, but there are some tradeoffs. You get a large burst to start, and then fall off sustained until RaO comes back up. The 2 minute cooldown might be killer though.

Bro, get outta my brain. lol

Summed up my thoughts perfectly.

Its not a pve build, its a combo build with MOC, the new remorsless GM trait and the quick darw trait 6-6-0-0-6.
SWAP to GS get fury from minor trait(fury on weapon swap) -> hit bash+opening strike(u got the skill cd reduced by 86% so its like on 4 sec cd) ,get fury from GS trait, target is 2 sec stunned-> maul opening strike(100% crit change 190% damage if u hit from behind) and like 15-20 ulnerability → attack with GS wait for maul cd to over – hit bash →; swap pet for fury(fury on pet swap) super maul number 2. Swap weapon to sword axe or axe-axe do the same thing with POS.

Whats not good about that?
You have fury on weapon swap, pet swap, GS hit, RAO, more than enough.

Yeah. I did some thinking after and realized that it’s certainly a very strong power Ranger PvP option with those traits. Sorry about that!

For PVP…. Sounds great. The damage modifiers sound better for PVE.

It’ll just be a matter of crunching the numbers to see which actually perform better in the separate game modes…. still can’t bring myself to pick up the BM line though in any game mode lol

You don’t even need to pick the pet traits out of it… AND the pet gets a massive buff from minor traits in BM… Win Win.

They aren’t massive. Not by any stretch of the word.

And the straight up damage modifiers in WS make it worth taking over BM.

For PVE of course. Maybe it’ll be a different story for WVW/PVP.