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Posted by: EremiteAngel.9765

EremiteAngel.9765

Hi all druids! I’m eagerly anticipating my first forays into using a druid for solo WvW roaming and would love to have inputs on my build below!

Staff is optional but I must use greatsword!

Also I’m not sure what pets to use with my build. Its based on fury reapplication to trigger Remorseless trait.

Appreciate any thoughts on how I can improve my build, especially the pets choice!

I edited build slightly to use wanderer armor instead of soldiers!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNEQJARWjEqQLL2wCmsAVLW+Dsm+VNYHAfWbr31lXXGIAA-TFCFABMcBAQS5n66CA4RAclSwHOCAXv/w9q/AA-w

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Posted by: UmbraNoctis.1907

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Smokescale and tiger are the best pets for remorseless builds.
I don’t recommend wanderer gear, because this kind of builds doesn’t benefit that much from boon duration, especially when you take WS. I’d rather take some crusader/valk/cav/soldier pieces for additional defensive stats and more dmg than wanderer.
You also might want to consider BM over WS for traited shouts/better CA access/perma swiftness (personally i can’t stand roaming without running speed increase), GS trait, stronger pets (that will be an important part of your dmg anyways), additional cc or quickness. LB instead of staff can work pretty well too, but it is up to you if you prefer the mobility/healing or more dmg/cc.

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

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dont take evasion rune, the bonus (6) will eat the remorseless prock and its a bad rune set.

If you want to take the boon duration approach for quickness stacking go with durability rune. Like @UmbraNoctis.1907, its less optiaml for your build, its more for NM+shouts builds, but can still work.

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Posted by: EremiteAngel.9765

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Smokescale and tiger are the best pets for remorseless builds.
I don’t recommend wanderer gear, because this kind of builds doesn’t benefit that much from boon duration, especially when you take WS. I’d rather take some crusader/valk/cav/soldier pieces for additional defensive stats and more dmg than wanderer.
You also might want to consider BM over WS for traited shouts/better CA access/perma swiftness (personally i can’t stand roaming without running speed increase), GS trait, stronger pets (that will be an important part of your dmg anyways), additional cc or quickness. LB instead of staff can work pretty well too, but it is up to you if you prefer the mobility/healing or more dmg/cc.

may i ask how you get the perma swiftness with BM?
do you activate your shouts while running?

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Posted by: EremiteAngel.9765

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dont take evasion rune, the bonus (6) will eat the remorseless prock and its a bad rune set.

If you want to take the boon duration approach for quickness stacking go with durability rune. Like @UmbraNoctis.1907, its less optiaml for your build, its more for NM+shouts builds, but can still work.

i dont really want to go boon duration route. is there a better rune i can use?

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Posted by: Eggyokeo.9705

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Posted by: UmbraNoctis.1907

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Yes, i just use shouts for swiftness.

For runes there are a lot of different options. If you have issues against condi builds, lyssa or soldier rune (with shouts) can help. If you need more healing, defender rune is still very strong. Or dolyak if you need faster CA charging. Or just a rune that gives you more dmg + some defensive stats or utility like pack, surging, daredevil, scrapper, vampirism, wurm or rage – just to name some of the better ones. And of course durability rune is never bad, even if you don’t need the boon duration.

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

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dont take evasion rune, the bonus (6) will eat the remorseless prock and its a bad rune set.

If you want to take the boon duration approach for quickness stacking go with durability rune. Like @UmbraNoctis.1907, its less optiaml for your build, its more for NM+shouts builds, but can still work.

i dont really want to go boon duration route. is there a better rune i can use?

Go with defender rune, it works great with WS builds, very good synergie with TU. Also, HP is much more valuable now.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNEQJARWjEqQLL2wCmsAVLW+DslXXGIAAfWjr31m+1tbHUyKSD-TVCFABgv/Q+qVouugrUCywFAggjAASK/OUVFAeEAkCoItWA-w

more offensive option:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNEQJARWnEqAVsitsAmsAUtgl/ADetGXvrN9rb3OY51lBCAlsi0A-TVCFABMcEAMUVF11FclSw8VrA89HQS5HAPCA+vAAkCoItWA-w

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Posted by: jcbroe.4329

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I run a Remorseless build, and have for awhile. Based on the comments throughout the thread, I doubt you’ll like it though.

I already changed out the Durability Runes in the builder to the next best thing: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJAWRnUqAVsi9rAOsActgl/A7JN8DOaLvuMQAA+s2WvrlMtzA-TVCFQBiY/BCcBAAwDAQTq/YRlgI4IAkQlfYSXQDOEAAA-w

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Posted by: Bigpapasmurf.5623

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Yes, i just use shouts for swiftness.

For runes there are a lot of different options. If you have issues against condi builds, lyssa or soldier rune (with shouts) can help. If you need more healing, defender rune is still very strong. Or dolyak if you need faster CA charging. Or just a rune that gives you more dmg + some defensive stats or utility like pack, surging, daredevil, scrapper, vampirism, wurm or rage – just to name some of the better ones. And of course durability rune is never bad, even if you don’t need the boon duration.

Does Dolyak still charge the CA bar post patch? Ive always wondered how that worked (does it work if you are full HP)?

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Posted by: Bigpapasmurf.5623

Bigpapasmurf.5623

Yes, i just use shouts for swiftness.

For runes there are a lot of different options. If you have issues against condi builds, lyssa or soldier rune (with shouts) can help. If you need more healing, defender rune is still very strong. Or dolyak if you need faster CA charging. Or just a rune that gives you more dmg + some defensive stats or utility like pack, surging, daredevil, scrapper, vampirism, wurm or rage – just to name some of the better ones. And of course durability rune is never bad, even if you don’t need the boon duration.

Does Dolyak still charge the CA bar post patch? Ive always wondered how that worked (does it work if you are full HP)?

Anyone know if Signet of the wild also works as well?

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Posted by: UmbraNoctis.1907

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Every single heal “tick” will charge AF for a set amout. It doesn’t matter how much hp you are healing, as long you or an ally is getting some actual healing (“healing” at full hp doesn’t work). So yes, dolyak rune still works. Same with Signet of the Wild or healing buff food (in WvW/PvE).
It is similar with dmg. Every single hit will charge AF for a small amount, regardless of how much dmg you are actually dealing.

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Posted by: Bigpapasmurf.5623

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Every single heal “tick” will charge AF for a set amout. It doesn’t matter how much hp you are healing, as long you or an ally is getting some actual healing (“healing” at full hp doesn’t work). So yes, dolyak rune still works. Same with Signet of the Wild or healing buff food (in WvW/PvE).
It is similar with dmg. Every single hit will charge AF for a small amount, regardless of how much dmg you are actually dealing.

Perfect. Now I just need to change my build a bit,lol

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Posted by: OGDeadHead.8326

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Don’t underestimate the power of drakes when going for a remorseless/opening strike build. Their tailswipe attack, pre-boosted with attack of opportunity from hilt bash hits incredibly hard if you manage to land their attack – help them with that by cc your opponent.

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Posted by: Bigpapasmurf.5623

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Can someone explain what a “remorseless” build is?

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Posted by: UmbraNoctis.1907

UmbraNoctis.1907

Don’t underestimate the power of drakes when going for a remorseless/opening strike build. Their tailswipe attack, pre-boosted with attack of opportunity from hilt bash hits incredibly hard if you manage to land their attack – help them with that by cc your opponent.

While it is true that tailswipe can hit very hard, it is a lot less reliable than tiger’s F2, which has less cd and higher range, is better controllable, grants fury for guaranteed OS and the dmg is only slightly lower. The only real advantages drakes got are better survivability and some aoe dmg.

Can someone explain what a “remorseless” build is?

It is a build with the “Remorseless”-Trait, usually combined with Moment of Clarity and GS, which allows some nice burst combos.