Guild Wars 2

Just tested [Go for the Eyes] and [Wilting Strike] in the mists with an eagle.
Every F2 it applies both Weakness and Blind.

Woot!

with both GftE and WS enabled, it only shows weakness when mousing over the F2 skill. In testing, it seems the weakness is applied but the blind is not. tried different pets as well (eagle, drake, etc)..

It’s been working fine for me. Using it on a Eagle is just lol spam worthy.

Both worked fine for me. It’s amusing as all heck to spam it.

Will be gold to use when vs thieves!

I guess that’s why they removed Intimidation Training.

@Heimskarl:
Aye, it was great to use against two squishy thieves … they attacked my bird while blind and weak … I made them bleed, burn, and poisoned them … I like to share :-)

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@Heimskarl:
Aye, it was great to use against two squishy thieves … they attacked my bird while blind and weak … I made them bleed, burn, and poisoned them … I like to share :-)

I’ve had zero chance vs. thieves last night. I’ve not been on for a month or so due to travel but I wouldn’t expect to be that rusty I had most luck with traps though. Zerk, not so much – probably due to 2300 armor.

I was using wolf/spider (WvW spider). I always though eagle/owl was too easy to kill.

If you’re running a glassy (zerk) build, Thieves can be an issue (especially if they 2v1 you) … they have more access to %dmg/%cri_dmg modifiers now … and don’t have to trait to get extra power.

I was playing around with all sorts of my characters and my best results were my condi-ranger and condi-mesmer. My power-mesmer got insta-gibbed by a thief that came from outside my line-of-sight … wasn’t cool.

Well, the GFTE trait gives an additional 300 toughness too, so blind plus weakness +300 toughness is not a lot of damage. Looking forward to trying http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-JFk73;0wEFy-x2ZDF-0;9V-D;1Z_b;0256136036;4T-X6V;15NV05NV09k out.

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If you’re running a glassy (zerk) build, Thieves can be an issue (especially if they 2v1 you) … they have more access to %dmg/%cri_dmg modifiers now … and don’t have to trait to get extra power.

I was playing around with all sorts of my characters and my best results were my condi-ranger and condi-mesmer. My power-mesmer got insta-gibbed by a thief that came from outside my line-of-sight … wasn’t cool.

I think the only counter to a Mesmer is another Mesmer. At least that is how I felt after the molly whopping I got from the various Mesmer’s I fought

I was running both builds or armor sets last night while testing a few builds. Trapper / condition and also full zerk / dps. Overall game play in WvW was much faster so that is probably the main thing to over come right now. Or at least for me.

One thing I thought was interesting is that I saw a large number of level 1 upscale thieves in WvW. I was asking myself, self – is that because they are OP and flavor of the month and people are testing or are they just trolling.

Nah, there are some counters to the Mesmer … but many of the Mesmers you saw were likely “more veteran” given that there has been more hype about other classes like Engineer. Mesmer can be daunting to those who aren’t familiar with it … more so when you combine that with the new specialization system.

My condi ranger and power ranger were both able to take on various Mesmer builds. Now, I have to give props to one Mesmer though. The name escapes me, but (s)he was running a Sword+Sword & Scepter+Pistol build and man it was good. Had some darn good fights … usually ended with one of us simply disengaging … though (s)he got me in a large team fight.

Not to rain on anyone’s enjoyment but I feel these will get icd’s. They should.

Regarding my experiences yesterday, BW just owns thieves. Birds die to staff ele and medi guard aoe’s so I’ve actually switched to using one or two bears, which never die.

After trying the remorseless valk build, I don’t think I’ll ever go back to zerky playstyle. Damage is quite similar but with valk I can fight with GS more.

Sadly, you’re probably right … I’m not sure what ArenaNet is doing/thinking … they’ve already nerfed some things less than 24 hours after the patch and left more egregious things alone.

Valk, eh?
Have you tried remorseless with Cavalier?

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Valk, eh?
Have you tried remorseless with Cavalier?

I’d be trying it with Crusader tbh, Altruism runes, WHaO, RT, Intel sigils.

Sebrent.3625:

Sadly, you’re probably right … I’m not sure what ArenaNet is doing/thinking … they’ve already nerfed some things less than 24 hours after the patch and left more egregious things alone.

Valk, eh?
Have you tried remorseless with Cavalier?

I just logged in a few minutes ago to check something on my Guardian – two patches it seems. Any idea of what they changed?

Crapgame.6519:

Sebrent.3625:

Sadly, you’re probably right … I’m not sure what ArenaNet is doing/thinking … they’ve already nerfed some things less than 24 hours after the patch and left more egregious things alone.

Valk, eh?
Have you tried remorseless with Cavalier?

I just logged in a few minutes ago to check something on my Guardian – two patches it seems. Any idea of what they changed?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-June-23-2015/first#post5196957

Nothing hit on Guardian. Some predictable things were hit on Warrior/Mesmer/Thief.

These two make me think “what the heck” …

• Backstab: This will now only apply revealed when you hit a foe.
• Berserker’s Power: You are now required to hit with the burst skill. This will trigger in the same way as the trait Cleansing Ire.

So the poor Warrior loses all their adrenaline and gets nothing from either of their two GM traits … but the Thief isn’t revealed if they miss … really?!

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These two make me think “what the heck” …

• Backstab: This will now only apply revealed when you hit a foe.
• Berserker’s Power: You are now required to hit with the burst skill. This will trigger in the same way as the trait Cleansing Ire.

So the poor Warrior loses all their adrenaline and gets nothing from either of their two GM traits … but the Thief isn’t revealed if they miss … really?!

I agree with the sentiment personally lol, but you could tell it was broken on thief because backstab was the ONLY stealth skill applying reveal regardless of hit or miss.

Now, again, I would totally agree with the change, but I don’t think ANet was going to stealthily slip in a “by the way, you’re always revealed from stealth now regardless of whether or not you hit anything” change lol. They would need like, and entire blog post addressing stealth with in depth explanations on why the change is being made, and even then, the waterworks would be over 9000 because of all the people getting their crutch taken away.

If they don’t hit anything, great … but when they actually try to backstab someone the attack misses, is blocked, is evaded, etc. … I have no clue why they aren’t revealed … pretty sure I should be able to see you since I just blocked your dagger from hitting my vital organs.

ArenaNet did slip in some other changes without telling anyone … Mesmer mantras start to recharge their cooldown from the time they are either first charged or the first charge is used (I didn’t have enough time to fully test it).

Sebrent.3625:

Sadly, you’re probably right … I’m not sure what ArenaNet is doing/thinking … they’ve already nerfed some things less than 24 hours after the patch and left more egregious things alone.

Valk, eh?
Have you tried remorseless with Cavalier?

it’s not really useful and I think u know why. 16k HP disappears awfully fast with 10 stacks of burning and15 stacks of bleeds. 26k HP, now that’s a nice buffer. originally I wanted cavalier stats, and it might be more viable for wvw. but with all these condis going around and no Resistance boon, valk is the way to go.

Yep. That was my experience as well. With so many people running condi builds, that toughness doesn’t mean crap. I just wanted to know about your own. Thanks :-)

mistsim.2748:

Sebrent.3625:

Sadly, you’re probably right … I’m not sure what ArenaNet is doing/thinking … they’ve already nerfed some things less than 24 hours after the patch and left more egregious things alone.

Valk, eh?
Have you tried remorseless with Cavalier?

it’s not really useful and I think u know why. 16k HP disappears awfully fast with 10 stacks of burning and15 stacks of bleeds. 26k HP, now that’s a nice buffer. originally I wanted cavalier stats, and it might be more viable for wvw. but with all these condis going around and no Resistance boon, valk is the way to go.

Hmm…probably why I was living longer on Monday than Tuesday That 2900 armor on my trap build does nothing to mitigate the conditional damage flying around.

I don’t want to have to order new / different armor

yeah, tough times being rabid =( I wanna make it work I really do. but it’s actually problematic that we lost a bit of vitality from our condi builds (from the NM line).

I really thing they should give ranger high innate HP for the medium armor group.

Our health pool is fine if they’d bring back the PvP jewels. Right now most amulets are all or nothing. No one ever runs 100% anything in WvW, except a few glass cannon builds.

Also the condis are messed up at the moment, that’s not helping anything. People are getting 20k ticks on burning from the screenshots I’ve seen.