Not sure what happened...
90% of my posts get removed because i tell people how bad the ranger class is.
Many others get their posts deleted to.
If it’s about ranger beeing broken, or the upcoming patch that will flop, they delete your post.
Great another company doing that. Trion did the same thing whenever I would bring up equality for their Cleric damage souls as it was half of the options but were sub-par in game where it was role based not class base.
90% of my posts get removed because i tell people how bad the ranger class is.
Many others get their posts deleted to.
If it’s about ranger beeing broken, or the upcoming patch that will flop, they delete your post.
This. I made a post in the thread about speculating on the patch, in which I speculated that the patch would probably focus on buffing some of the worst ranger skills to a level where they are less bad, but still not viable. For some reason, speculating in a thread about speculation is grounds for removing your post.
Same thing happened to me last week, thought I was just being delusional. Glad I’m not losing my mind.
Is there a link to the changes that I’ve not seen yet?
Inflammatory and whiny posts tend to get deleted the most often, because they don’t want every thread to devolve into a flame war between Rangers that don’t play the profession anymore but still want to cry about Rangers and current Ranger players.
90% of my posts get removed because i tell people how bad the ranger class is.
Many others get their posts deleted to.
If it’s about ranger beeing broken, or the upcoming patch that will flop, they delete your post.
Mine as well. Apparently saying anything negative about the class or how AN handles something, even when you point out it’s just an opinion, is “not being constructive” which is the excu…errr…reason I was given for having comments poofed, and even given a short suspension. I wonder how long this will stay up or how long I’ll be punished for commenting on it? :P
ATTENTION ATTENTION: The lat sentence was a JOKE.
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Inflammatory and whiny posts tend to get deleted the most often, because they don’t want every thread to devolve into a flame war between Rangers that don’t play the profession anymore but still want to cry about Rangers and current Ranger players.
I love the terms “whiny” and “inflammatory” since they are completely subjective and therefore prone to accidental or deliberate abuse. Just an opinion of the potential of using such things when moderating and not remotely an accusation that the do, in fact, occur.
Inflammatory and whiny posts tend to get deleted the most often, because they don’t want every thread to devolve into a flame war between Rangers that don’t play the profession anymore but still want to cry about Rangers and current Ranger players.
I love the terms “whiny” and “inflammatory” since they are completely subjective and therefore prone to accidental or deliberate abuse. Just an opinion of the potential of using such things when moderating and not remotely an accusation that the do, in fact, occur.
Oh, I know. I’m just saying why they get removed.
I’ve got a mailbox full of infraction messages from overzealous moderators.
I even got a suspension for an accumulation of infractions (almost all of them for stupid things) and was unable to even view the forums while logged in. Which just goes to show how stupid some of the ANet forum policies are, since you can just log out and read the forums normally.
Bran, I’m pretty sure I read the post you are talking about -it was short and reflected a fear many of us probably have. I didn’t post in response but agree that we could end up with another dud weapon if any change to sword is not handled correctly.
@nldixon
Yes, the over-moderation is…a tad bit daunting, especially when you get ‘kittened’ for saying: Abolish___it
because the ‘sh’ even with a space between the ‘it’ is still a no-no.
The fact that the moderators aggressively lock down some posts while others derail into spiteful flames wars (as long as the original post was a positive in GW2’s direction) means they know their game is in trouble and are locking it down.
I remember when you could enjoy conversing on a forums about the state of a game, both good and bad, so long as people could hold a civil tongue, and if one person couldn’t the post itself would be minimized (you could still read it if you liked) and the person infracted, but the conversation was allowed to continue.
The over-moderation tells me that either the forum moderators have never moderated the game, or that they are doing so in order to silence discontent players so that ‘new’ people will feel that the game is in good order.
It’s immature way to police a forums.
@nldixon
Yes, the over-moderation is…a tad bit daunting, especially when you get ‘kittened’ for saying: Abolish___it
because the ‘sh’ even with a space between the ‘it’ is still a no-no.
The fact that the moderators aggressively lock down some posts while others derail into spiteful flames wars (as long as the original post was a positive in GW2’s direction) means they know their game is in trouble and are locking it down.
I remember when you could enjoy conversing on a forums about the state of a game, both good and bad, so long as people could hold a civil tongue, and if one person couldn’t the post itself would be minimized (you could still read it if you liked) and the person infracted, but the conversation was allowed to continue.
The over-moderation tells me that either the forum moderators have never moderated the game, or that they are doing so in order to silence discontent players so that ‘new’ people will feel that the game is in good order.
It’s immature way to police a forums.
Actually, most of my posts that received infractions were pro-Ranger posts and I never once disparaged ANet or the Ranger class in any of them. I honestly think that the over moderation is more from a lack of experience than anything else. Or possibly an automated moderation system that is/was broken. It’s been a lot better lately.
I don’t feel like ANet is trying to silence discontented players. It seems more like they’re trying (too hard) to keep people from arguing on the forums, civilly or otherwise.
@nldixon
Yes, the over-moderation is…a tad bit daunting, especially when you get ‘kittened’ for saying: Abolish___it
because the ‘sh’ even with a space between the ‘it’ is still a no-no.
The fact that the moderators aggressively lock down some posts while others derail into spiteful flames wars (as long as the original post was a positive in GW2’s direction) means they know their game is in trouble and are locking it down.
I remember when you could enjoy conversing on a forums about the state of a game, both good and bad, so long as people could hold a civil tongue, and if one person couldn’t the post itself would be minimized (you could still read it if you liked) and the person infracted, but the conversation was allowed to continue.
The over-moderation tells me that either the forum moderators have never moderated the game, or that they are doing so in order to silence discontent players so that ‘new’ people will feel that the game is in good order.
It’s immature way to police a forums.
Actually, most of my posts that received infractions were pro-Ranger posts and I never once disparaged ANet or the Ranger class in any of them. I honestly think that the over moderation is more from a lack of experience than anything else. Or possibly an automated moderation system that is/was broken. It’s been a lot better lately.
I don’t feel like ANet is trying to silence discontented players. It seems more like they’re trying (too hard) to keep people from arguing on the forums, civilly or otherwise.
A discussion is usually two people who do not agree, trying to make the other see your point of view. They can be on opposite terms on a subject, or equal. Its ok to have ‘arguments’ as long as they are civil and don’t devolve into a out-right hissy fit.
The point is, it needs to be done civially, and oftentimes is. It happens, again that two people go back to back, and the original intent of the post is derailed, and THEN having a moderator come in and infract the two, or move the post, or get it back on topic needs to be handled, but usually a word of warning like: “please keep this post on topic and move your squabbling to private channels” is usually enough for people to move past thier debacle, or move it into private channels.
I am pro-ranger, but my faith in A.Net is wavering. I feel lied and cheated to, and I watched the ranger, the ONLY class I feel comfortable PvP’ing with, get trashed in every BWE and nerfed again and again upon release just leaves me feeling like…A.Net wants only one class…warriors. Mesmers have recieved nerfs, necro’s haven’t been fixed, warriors have recieved buffs, and thieves are just so broken that they could nerf it endlessly and they would still be too OP.
Yet, they refuse to fix the rangers, and have nerfed us, and broken us further. Yes, we can compete, yes we can do damage, yes can can but we can’t to the extent that other players can. We don’t shine in PvE (unless your a bot) and we don’t shine in PvP. We are a lack luster class and anytime we find a way to be effective, it justgets nerfed.
It’s depressing.
Even so, I still have a multiude of builds and I have helped out the ranger community, and have recieved several feedbacks about my power builds 30/0/10/30/0 build. It’s a fantastic build, aimed to help rangers, and is highly adaptable (as one replier showed me). The point is, we are not powerless (like mesmers feel in PvE) but it’s glaring all too often that we are somewhat treated like the red-headed step child.
I wouldn’t be too depressed. Jon Peters acknowledged Rangers are lacking and said they’re giving the profession a complete overhaul, so at least they know the class needs a lot of work.
In the meantime, there are builds that work and Ranger is still a fun profession to play (at least for me). Then again, I never really like shortbow all that much anyway.
I didn’t like the shortbow to begin with.
I fell in love with it on my own, not because somebody killed me with one and I jumped on the SB bandwagon. In fact, I didn’t like SB so much I have an axe/warhorn build forever, and then they nerfed bleeds. WHY!
So, again, I found something interesting, and I was probably NOT the first to discover the SB/QZ combo, but I certainly didn’t see it too often until right before the ‘nerf’. But even then, I had moved onto a trap build (thanks her lucky star that traps weren’t nerfed) and then onto this power build.
I use the SB, because, for me, the utility is signiture for how I like to play. Built right, I have the ability to evade attacks before I have to resort to dodges. And played even better, I can blow a dodge or two, then use LR reflexes to regen my endurence and then promptly follow it with SB 3 and maybe another dodge or two. I’ve routinely played games where I’ve pulled 2-3 people off a point and survived longer than they would like, all because I could do damage and dodge like a champ. My average time to live (with all CDs) is 42 secs. That’s a long time to keep an opposing team engaged…
But argh..I digressed…
Here’s looking forward to positive changes to rangers!!
I got a box full of infractions too. In fact, when I talk about my box of infractions, I get another infraction with cherries on top, to increase my box :P