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Posted by: Manekk.6981

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So I was wondering is there any ability from ranger or his pet that once executed you would consider OP? this is for you that play ranger regularly not if you see this and have a level 8 alt, would be interesting to do the same in the other class forums aswell to see what the players feel themselves.

Personally the first that comes to mind is Lick Wounds under water, I can’t really think of anything else but maybe some of you can.

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Posted by: Dabilahro.8094

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Greatsword auto attack chain #3 combined with QZ or just plain quickness :P 33% off the time your dodging

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Posted by: Writetyper.1985

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Traps, traited. Three of them. Put them down, watch people melt.

Wolf howl, if you can get it to work.

Counterattack is pretty good.

Swoop is two combo finishers so you can heal for 3k through a healing spring.

Entangle is not OP but really really good if you use it at a good time – which can be difficult to gather

Speaking of which, Healing Spring and Troll Unguent.

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Posted by: Shiren.9532

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Greatsword auto attack chain #3 combined with QZ or just plain quickness :P 33% off the time your dodging

Isn’t the duration of the evade shorter with quickness? Thus quickness just causes more frequent but shorter evades resulting in the same amount of time evading?

Healing Spring is probably one of the most, if not the most powerful skills the ranger has. It pulses AoE condition removal, AoE Regeneration, it’s a long lasting water field, it only requires your healing slot so it fits into a lot of builds and it can be traited to pulse Vigor.

I don’t think you can say any one thing is powerful when the class as a whole has to be considered. Having powerful tools doesn’t improve your entire tool kit.

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Posted by: HotHit.6783

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Splintershot, chilling whirl and for a while, at least near release, I thought feeding frenzy was the most ridiculous skill in the game. Harpoongun in general is just amazing.

Fine. Ignoring underwater combat. Crossfire. I need a reason? Crossfire, crossfire, crossfire, crossfire…

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Posted by: Aylpse.6280

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There is a Gimmick build I made that has some stupid pet damage and absurd Rapid Fire burst, outside that its weak but if you get the jump on someone…

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A +175% for Rapid Fire. (190%)
Almost X2 damage on that skill. Not including Stat bonuses, crits, and Pet Damage.

Pet is Panther with Sic’em, Pet Prowess and Rending attacks.. Going into stealth forces crits (Specced for +30% on crits and bleeds on crit) for insane pet damage.

You get both of these timed at the same time from a safe distance it’s GG. Get targeted and welcome to die. Not so good in dules. Its good for camping though!

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Posted by: jcbroe.4329

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Splintershot, chilling whirl and for a while, at least near release, I thought feeding frenzy was the most ridiculous skill in the game. Harpoongun in general is just amazing.

Fine. Ignoring underwater combat. Crossfire. I need a reason? Crossfire, crossfire, crossfire, crossfire…

I just want to comment on this, looking from a damage perspective, crossfire is the highest damaging skill on the shortbow, bar hitting all 5 arrows from poison volley. Overused =/= overpowered.


Alas, as much as I could pick apart other peoples thoughts, this is an opinionated thread, and the above is merely fact.

To add, apparently from a s/tpvp perspective, there are people in the community that feel that a rangers ability to build for survival coupled with being able to attain what they consider strong pet damage that they don’t believe is “fair” for a bunker style build is something that people think is OP.

You can dodge roll through traps AND the animation is obvious. So imo until they nerf thieves stealth (also something that you cannot see to dodge) traps should remain as they are.

(That’s me commenting on the two meta top builds in a pvp setting. Dunno about other areas of the game)

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Posted by: Faux Sheaux.6179

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Ranger regeneration ability is OP

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Posted by: Serraphin Storm.2369

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We as ranger don’t have any op skills except maybe lick wounds. Some of the other classess have op skill so in comparison some consider us underpowered.

We are balanced its the op skill of the other classess than need to be taken down a notch.

However with the right combination of skill like Signet of the hunt. This with any high damage attack like swoop or maul can result in a 10k hit. This with the right set up can result in 23k damage between you and your pet in less than 3 seconds.

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Posted by: Aegis.9724

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underwater lick wounds

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

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Ranger regeneration ability is OP

I don’t agree with that statement because all the enemy has to do is burn down my cat and I can no longer do damage. Use the necro to corrupt my regen. Oh ya! No one plays this way!

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Posted by: Manekk.6981

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Some strange replies in here I must say, by OP I meant overpowered something you feel is too strong not just a skill you like and is useful.

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Posted by: AlexRD.7914

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Well.. let’s see:

Well.. let’s see:Defending a point in spvp as a trapper ranger: Meaning you lay down 3 traps, and when the enemy comes, you throw another 3 traps on him. Insta kill. Unless he is a necro and transfers the conditions to you. Then you’re kittened.

Well.. let’s see:Defending a point in spvp as a trapper ranger: Meaning you lay down 3 traps, and when the enemy comes, you throw another 3 traps on him. Insta kill. Unless he is a necro and transfers the conditions to you. Then you’re kittened.Being downed by one person that doesn’t have stability: Thunderclap/Switch to wolf/Knockdown/Fear/Thunderclap/Switch to another canine/Knockdown
by then you’ll be up already or have downed him

Well.. let’s see:Defending a point in spvp as a trapper ranger: Meaning you lay down 3 traps, and when the enemy comes, you throw another 3 traps on him. Insta kill. Unless he is a necro and transfers the conditions to you. Then you’re kittened.Being downed by one person that doesn’t have stability: Thunderclap/Switch to wolf/Knockdown/Fear/Thunderclap/Switch to another canine/Knockdown
by then you’ll be up already or have downed himEdit: I don’t understand why the first paragraph is cloned.
Edit 2: WHAT IS HAPPENING??

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Posted by: Expiatus.4210

Expiatus.4210

Ranger regeneration ability is OP

I second Faux’s statement with hilarious proof, provided by a highly luminescent sylvari. Gotta lay off the Miracle-Gro man, it makes you jumpy.

sorry Faux, I just had to share it. Its too funny.

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Posted by: Himei.5379

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Swoop is two combo finishers so you can heal for 3k through a healing spring.

Speaking of which, Healing Spring and Troll Unguent.

Try Swoop, then weapon swap into sword for Hornet Sting —> Monarch’s Leap combined with 2 Drake’s Tail Swipe, OP healing.

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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Yep. What’s really nice is that you can actually get 2 swoops and 2 monarch leaps in it due to the low cooldowns on those skills and weapon swap. Even easier with 20% faster cooldown recharge.

[Healing Spring] → [Swoop] → [Weapon Swap] → [Hornet Sting + Monarch Leap] → [Wait 8 or 6.4 seconds] → [Hornet Sting + Monarch Leap] → [Weapon Swap] → [Swoop]

Throw in the Drake + Pet swap and you have

  • 2 drake blast finishers
  • 2 swoop leap finishers
  • 2 monarch leap leap finishers

So

  • Healing Spring’s initial heal
  • Regen from healing spring
  • Condition removal from healing spring
  • 6 extra heals from combos.

That’s quite the potential :-)

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Posted by: Dean Calaway.9718

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About Lick Wounds, in a WvW scenario I barely survive long enough on a down state to even let the cool down finish to use it, in PvE, well who cares.

As for Entangled, nvm about it too, I can record a video anytime in WvW where you clearly see everyone walking out of it no problem when it was spoused to keep them there until they destroy the roots.

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Posted by: OGDeadHead.8326

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Some strange replies in here I must say, by OP I meant overpowered something you feel is too strong not just a skill you like and is useful.

Lol I agree! It would seem most of our abilities are OP, when you read these responses. Can’t people read, or do they honestly think that these abilities are so owerpowered?!?

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Posted by: Frosty and Frosty Law Firm.4981

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So I was wondering is there any ability from ranger or his pet that once executed you would consider OP? this is for you that play ranger regularly not if you see this and have a level 8 alt, would be interesting to do the same in the other class forums aswell to see what the players feel themselves.

Personally the first that comes to mind is Lick Wounds under water, I can’t really think of anything else but maybe some of you can.

No. We can be efficient at times, but I’ve yet to see anything we have as overpowered. If it was, Anet would probably nerf the kitten out of it and then buff warrior because they just couldn’t keep up with our incredible longbow projectile speed.

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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There’s nothing OP about Ranger. If we do something well, it’s because focused on doing it well and practiced to have the skill needed to do so.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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Glass Canon Sword/Torch ranger + Elixir of Heroes…. my god i never realized how OP it was to have 6 seconds (or is it 5?) of invuln… it just lasts forever!!

PS: THE TOOL TIP IS WRONG, so don’t tell me, “Oh well the Tooltip says it’s only 3!”

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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Aye, Durz. It is quite nice. My only problem is the way F2 forage skill works. If it worked more like the Thief’s steal ability, I’d love it. As it is, you have to:

  • Babysit F2 to make sure it went off
  • See where your pet dropped the random item
  • Get there to pick it up
  • Use it

I’d much rather have it simply change the F2 to the item. Pigs are supposed to be smarter than dogs, so it should be able to fetch it and bring it to me. My dog in RL can ;-)

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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Aye, Durz. It is quite nice. My only problem is the way F2 forage skill works. If it worked more like the Thief’s steal ability, I’d love it. As it is, you have to:

  • Babysit F2 to make sure it went off
  • See where your pet dropped the random item
  • Get there to pick it up
  • Use it

I’d much rather have it simply change the F2 to the item. Pigs are supposed to be smarter than dogs, so it should be able to fetch it and bring it to me. My dog in RL can ;-)

Well when i use my pigs i’m a very melee oriented build so i’m always like right ontop of my pet so a few of those aren’t that big of a deal.

However i agree, its F2 should be replaced by the environmental item, OR your weapon skills get replaced by the environmental item immediately when it digs it up (IE it just throws it to you) shrugs I do like how my allies can use it now though…

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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Yes, that is the one downside to it … but that’s a bit difficult to coordinate in the middle of a fight.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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Yes, that is the one downside to it … but that’s a bit difficult to coordinate in the middle of a fight.

I’ve had no issue Coordinating it amongst melee team members (2 of my friends ONLY play melee, ones a guardian so i don’t blame him on that one…) so they’re normally the ones i’ll have use the goodies unless we’re in tPvP then i’ll normally use them and would much rather just have it slotted into the F2 skill when he forages it up (like Thieves) instead of how it is currently…

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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Ah, I was thinking in the middle of pushing through an enemy zerg you’re in the middle of busting. The item on the ground would be a bit harder to see under the feet of your 10 guys and their 20 to 30.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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Ah, I was thinking in the middle of pushing through an enemy zerg you’re in the middle of busting. The item on the ground would be a bit harder to see under the feet of your 10 guys and their 20 to 30.

lol yeah i’m not a huge fan of WvW zerg warfare xD, Only time i’ve done a coordinated Zerg take down was me and 14 other rangers all took traps and Longbows and throw them down in choke points and just waited…. omg it was disgusting how fast everyone died xD.

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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Where the heck were you that you coordinated 15 rangers? I’m jealous.

We rangers are keeping tabs on each other a bit on EB, but I’ve never had more than 5 run together and that was before Guard got nerfed from putting pets on the walls (5 rangers clearing siege and causing mayhem, lol)

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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Where the heck were you that you coordinated 15 rangers? I’m jealous.

We rangers are keeping tabs on each other a bit on EB, but I’ve never had more than 5 run together and that was before Guard got nerfed from putting pets on the walls (5 rangers clearing siege and causing mayhem, lol)

lol a guild on TC was having an event where they were advertising for rangers for a Mercenary Mission, idk what their whole event was for but they allowed me to tag along, it was glorious!

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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I bet! We were laughing our tails off with just 5 of us (and some were uplevelled!). I can only imagine the shenanigans you did with 15 rangers.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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I bet! We were laughing our tails off with just 5 of us (and some were uplevelled!). I can only imagine the shenanigans you did with 15 rangers.

Especially since only 3 of them were up leveled and everyone but me was in Rampagers gear xD (I used the spike and frost trap for utility and brought a frost spirit so I wouldn’t be screwing over any condi damage!) it was glorious…

I wanna do it again sometime lol

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Posted by: Faux Sheaux.6179

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Ranger regeneration ability is OP

I second Faux’s statement with hilarious proof, provided by a highly luminescent sylvari. Gotta lay off the Miracle-Gro man, it makes you jumpy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Qs7jbFqRCTA

sorry Faux, I just had to share it. Its too funny.

Think you meant this
The other was a bad link for some reason lol

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Posted by: Expiatus.4210

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@ Fuax -

TY. Fixed it.

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Posted by: Faux Sheaux.6179

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Lol yeah np

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

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Glass Canon Sword/Torch ranger + Elixir of Heroes…. my god i never realized how OP it was to have 6 seconds (or is it 5?) of invuln… it just lasts forever!!

PS: THE TOOL TIP IS WRONG, so don’t tell me, “Oh well the Tooltip says it’s only 3!”

Slot that and protect me and a brown bear; get yourself some berserker gear, you’ll never die. /s

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Posted by: Darth Llama.9217

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Great idea people, lets put all our best abilities in one easy thread so ANet can just nerf them all at once.

Apparently, we’re not getting screwed enough by nerfs, now we need to help them further destroy our class. Awesome idea!

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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Glass Canon Sword/Torch ranger + Elixir of Heroes…. my god i never realized how OP it was to have 6 seconds (or is it 5?) of invuln… it just lasts forever!!

PS: THE TOOL TIP IS WRONG, so don’t tell me, “Oh well the Tooltip says it’s only 3!”

Slot that and protect me and a brown bear; get yourself some berserker gear, you’ll never die. /s

And if you -really- want to take sig of stone too, “Hey guys 3 invulns says to go kitten yourself!”

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