Before, The Drake pet did it’s number 4 ability (tail swipe, 3 second attack speed) over and over again ignoring it’s other abilities, While it was AOE it was extremely slow and really killed the pets DPS.
Drake pets seem to be fixed now, its using its main attack which is 1/4 attack speed (.25 seconds) and the Tail Swipe was also lowered in cast speed as well which is now 1.75 second attack speed
the aoe damage is gone, but the pet should finally be usable outside of those situations…Now if only its Channeled attacks were super long, (I think they decreased those as well)
Pets still have issues against moving targets not as bad as before but still bad.
Does the blast finisher work too?
Does the blast finisher work too?
I’ve not been able to test yet, I need to figure it out.
K i tried testing it, and honestly couldn’t really tell.
New note for people, they didn’t fix the underwater version of these pets.
They still only do Tail Swipe, which is 3 second cast.
I don’t think Anet realizes the Underwater versions of the the pets we have are completely different from the above ground version, Some with different abilities for example..Or Bugged ones.
Mighty Roar from the Jungle Stalker for example is 5 stacks on land, 10 stacks underwater.
(edited by Xsorus.2507)
I’m pretty sure the Heal Bite works, but i can’t be completely certain as i already regen way more then the pet takes in damage.
I also found another annoying feature about Lizard pets, when they first appear after swap they’re not facing the mobs, instead it takes them a second to get situated and turn to face the enemy, makes using the Quickness from pet swap then their F2 ability a huge pain.
The Drakes with the Cones are also not nearly as good as the bouncing attack ones because of this feature..
I feel these pets if fixed would actually end up being a great addition to the Ranger.
Also the pets Auto attack works like our Sword/Great Sword, meaning if the target is stacked in front it, it’ll hit all the targets.
I’ve yet to see my drake actually use tailswipe, unless there’s no obvious animation for it.
I’ve yet to see my drake actually use tailswipe, unless there’s no obvious animation for it.
Trust me, it’s obvious, the drake spins around and then the ground explodes and if they’re in a field that element will fly everywhere as well, if you DON’T notice it you need to see an optometrist.
That being said I’ve yet to see my drake use it yet.
I don’t know when Drakes ever used ONLY Tail Swipe. To my knowledge the problem was that they NEVER used Tail Swipe (or Chomp) and would only use their basic attack. And I used Drakes a fair bit, so I think I’m relatively knowledgable about ’em. Unless this issue was from way, way back around launch or during beta.
Their basic attack is a small AoE, so maybe that fooled you into thinking you were seeing Tail Swipe.
I don’t know if you’re saying Drakes are now fixed and using all of their attacks normally, or if you’re just mistaken about Tail Swipe. I’ll have to test for myself, because if they are finally fixed I shall rejoice and use my Ice Drake for the rest of the Wintersday event in celebration.
EDIT: Well after a bit of testing I’m unhappy to report that Drakes still aren’t using anything but their basic ability. They may have sped up its basic ability a bit (probably as part of the fix to try and make them hit moving enemies more reliably) but they definately are still using nothing but basic attacks and F2 when commanded.
Though the devs have stated that its a known issue and they’ll look into it, so it’ll get fixed eventually. Just not quite yet.
(edited by Electro.4173)
In response to this thread I did a bit of testing in the mists and I have to say that it still does not work. I also tested if the tail swipe is conditional and perhaps only triggers if the drake is actually surrounded but that didn’t work either. I had the drakes attack the group of dummy golems from all angles. The only thing I figured out is that the AoE for the basic melee attack is very generous, roughly 180°.
After that I did some field tests. I joined sPvP until I had my daily and I witnessed no tail swipe either.
That said, drakes are terrifying to behold with 30 points in beastmastery.
They only used Tail Swipe before, How do I know? I timed it.
They swung every 3 seconds, which was the cast time of Tail Swipe.
Now they’re attacking far far faster then before.
and far faster then the current Tail Swipe cast time, It’s quite possible though Tail Swipe just doesn’t work now though.
They only used Tail Swipe before, How do I know? I timed it.
They swung every 3 seconds, which was the cast time of Tail Swipe.
Now they’re attacking far far faster then before.
and far faster then the current Tail Swipe cast time, It’s quite possible though Tail Swipe just doesn’t work now though.
This is false, if they were ONLY using tail swipe that would’ve been fixed immediately seeing as tail swipe has a 40s CD, has a BASE damage of 1.5k, is a blast finisher and a 360* AoE, their auto attack was just abysmally slow which is just how the drake pet roled even in Beta.
What the OP is likely getting confused with tail swipe is one of the drakes auto attacks, it will randomly use one of 3 animations for its auto attack, 2 are bites and the third is it turns to the side and slaps them with their tail, but that’s NOT tail swipe
They only used Tail Swipe before, How do I know? I timed it.
They swung every 3 seconds, which was the cast time of Tail Swipe.
Now they’re attacking far far faster then before.
and far faster then the current Tail Swipe cast time, It’s quite possible though Tail Swipe just doesn’t work now though.
This is false, if they were ONLY using tail swipe that would’ve been fixed immediately seeing as tail swipe has a 40s CD, has a BASE damage of 1.5k, is a blast finisher and a 360* AoE, their auto attack was just abysmally slow which is just how the drake pet roled even in Beta.
What the OP is likely getting confused with tail swipe is one of the drakes auto attacks, it will randomly use one of 3 animations for its auto attack, 2 are bites and the third is it turns to the side and slaps them with their tail, but that’s NOT tail swipe
A. I’ve never seen the blast finisher work period
B. The damage you see on the tooltip is not the pets actual damage, That’s simple to check, Look at the damage it lists right now…Now go remove all your gear, Look at the damage then, That’s the actual Delve of the ability. Yes Anet is that bad when it comes to tooltip information.
C. You can actually check what i’m saying right now, Have your pet Above land go beat on a mob, Time it…Now proceed to walk over to some water, and have the same pet kill a mob, Time the attack, You’ll see it’s 3 seconds, That was the same amount of time it took above land a patch ago..It’s been changed, the pet is attacking faster, and Tail Swipes cast time has been dropped (it was 3 seconds)
They only used Tail Swipe before, How do I know? I timed it.
They swung every 3 seconds, which was the cast time of Tail Swipe.
Now they’re attacking far far faster then before.
and far faster then the current Tail Swipe cast time, It’s quite possible though Tail Swipe just doesn’t work now though.
This is false, if they were ONLY using tail swipe that would’ve been fixed immediately seeing as tail swipe has a 40s CD, has a BASE damage of 1.5k, is a blast finisher and a 360* AoE, their auto attack was just abysmally slow which is just how the drake pet roled even in Beta.
What the OP is likely getting confused with tail swipe is one of the drakes auto attacks, it will randomly use one of 3 animations for its auto attack, 2 are bites and the third is it turns to the side and slaps them with their tail, but that’s NOT tail swipe
A. I’ve never seen the blast finisher work period
B. The damage you see on the tooltip is not the pets actual damage, That’s simple to check, Look at the damage it lists right now…Now go remove all your gear, Look at the damage then, That’s the actual Delve of the ability. Yes Anet is that bad when it comes to tooltip information.
C. You can actually check what i’m saying right now, Have your pet Above land go beat on a mob, Time it…Now proceed to walk over to some water, and have the same pet kill a mob, Time the attack, You’ll see it’s 3 seconds, That was the same amount of time it took above land a patch ago..It’s been changed, the pet is attacking faster, and Tail Swipes cast time has been dropped (it was 3 seconds)
The blast finisher ALWAYS worked, that was the thing about it, and btw your gear does nothing to the pets tooltip, i should know, my gear has no power on it, and you do realize pets pause inbetween attacks right? all pets except i believe cats do this.
EDIT: Upon going into LA and having my drake attack one of the precise target dummies for a good 5minutes, he has yet to do ANYTHING other than his auto attack, you’re full of bull kitten, he’s not using his tail swipe, that is all.
To clear up any confusion go to this video, go to 2:40, the big mamma drake begins to use its tailswipe then. Again, what YOU are seeing is NOT the tailswipe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfph49mdiPY
(edited by Durzlla.6295)
They only used Tail Swipe before, How do I know? I timed it.
They swung every 3 seconds, which was the cast time of Tail Swipe.
Now they’re attacking far far faster then before.
and far faster then the current Tail Swipe cast time, It’s quite possible though Tail Swipe just doesn’t work now though.
This is false, if they were ONLY using tail swipe that would’ve been fixed immediately seeing as tail swipe has a 40s CD, has a BASE damage of 1.5k, is a blast finisher and a 360* AoE, their auto attack was just abysmally slow which is just how the drake pet roled even in Beta.
What the OP is likely getting confused with tail swipe is one of the drakes auto attacks, it will randomly use one of 3 animations for its auto attack, 2 are bites and the third is it turns to the side and slaps them with their tail, but that’s NOT tail swipe
A. I’ve never seen the blast finisher work period
B. The damage you see on the tooltip is not the pets actual damage, That’s simple to check, Look at the damage it lists right now…Now go remove all your gear, Look at the damage then, That’s the actual Delve of the ability. Yes Anet is that bad when it comes to tooltip information.
C. You can actually check what i’m saying right now, Have your pet Above land go beat on a mob, Time it…Now proceed to walk over to some water, and have the same pet kill a mob, Time the attack, You’ll see it’s 3 seconds, That was the same amount of time it took above land a patch ago..It’s been changed, the pet is attacking faster, and Tail Swipes cast time has been dropped (it was 3 seconds)
The blast finisher ALWAYS worked, that was the thing about it, and btw your gear does nothing to the pets tooltip, i should know, my gear has no power on it, and you do realize pets pause inbetween attacks right? all pets except i believe cats do this.
EDIT: Upon going into LA and having my drake attack one of the precise target dummies for a good 5minutes, he has yet to do ANYTHING other than his auto attack, you’re full of bull kitten, he’s not using his tail swipe, that is all.
To clear up any confusion go to this video, go to 2:40, the big mamma drake begins to use its tailswipe then. Again, what YOU are seeing is NOT the tailswipe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfph49mdiPY
Hmm, Weird doesn’t show the tooltip one sec i’ll find a better method
I’ll just read you the change, You can just check it yourself
1086 Power – Tail Swipe – 697 Damage
1141 Power – Tail Swipe – 732 Damage
As for the rest, Go bloody underwater and see for yourself.
(edited by Xsorus.2507)
They only used Tail Swipe before, How do I know? I timed it.
They swung every 3 seconds, which was the cast time of Tail Swipe.
Now they’re attacking far far faster then before.
and far faster then the current Tail Swipe cast time, It’s quite possible though Tail Swipe just doesn’t work now though.
This is false, if they were ONLY using tail swipe that would’ve been fixed immediately seeing as tail swipe has a 40s CD, has a BASE damage of 1.5k, is a blast finisher and a 360* AoE, their auto attack was just abysmally slow which is just how the drake pet roled even in Beta.
What the OP is likely getting confused with tail swipe is one of the drakes auto attacks, it will randomly use one of 3 animations for its auto attack, 2 are bites and the third is it turns to the side and slaps them with their tail, but that’s NOT tail swipe
A. I’ve never seen the blast finisher work period
B. The damage you see on the tooltip is not the pets actual damage, That’s simple to check, Look at the damage it lists right now…Now go remove all your gear, Look at the damage then, That’s the actual Delve of the ability. Yes Anet is that bad when it comes to tooltip information.
C. You can actually check what i’m saying right now, Have your pet Above land go beat on a mob, Time it…Now proceed to walk over to some water, and have the same pet kill a mob, Time the attack, You’ll see it’s 3 seconds, That was the same amount of time it took above land a patch ago..It’s been changed, the pet is attacking faster, and Tail Swipes cast time has been dropped (it was 3 seconds)
The blast finisher ALWAYS worked, that was the thing about it, and btw your gear does nothing to the pets tooltip, i should know, my gear has no power on it, and you do realize pets pause inbetween attacks right? all pets except i believe cats do this.
EDIT: Upon going into LA and having my drake attack one of the precise target dummies for a good 5minutes, he has yet to do ANYTHING other than his auto attack, you’re full of bull kitten, he’s not using his tail swipe, that is all.
To clear up any confusion go to this video, go to 2:40, the big mamma drake begins to use its tailswipe then. Again, what YOU are seeing is NOT the tailswipe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfph49mdiPYHmm, Weird doesn’t show the tooltip one sec i’ll find a better method
I’ll just read you the change, You can just check it yourself
1086 Power – Tail Swipe – 697 Damage
1141 Power – Tail Swipe – 732 DamageAs for the rest, Go bloody underwater and see for yourself.
I did… he’s not using it… it’s upsetting, i’ve only been using a drake since kittening beta, and i spend a good 50% of my time underwater…
They only used Tail Swipe before, How do I know? I timed it.
They swung every 3 seconds, which was the cast time of Tail Swipe.
Now they’re attacking far far faster then before.
and far faster then the current Tail Swipe cast time, It’s quite possible though Tail Swipe just doesn’t work now though.
This is false, if they were ONLY using tail swipe that would’ve been fixed immediately seeing as tail swipe has a 40s CD, has a BASE damage of 1.5k, is a blast finisher and a 360* AoE, their auto attack was just abysmally slow which is just how the drake pet roled even in Beta.
What the OP is likely getting confused with tail swipe is one of the drakes auto attacks, it will randomly use one of 3 animations for its auto attack, 2 are bites and the third is it turns to the side and slaps them with their tail, but that’s NOT tail swipe
A. I’ve never seen the blast finisher work period
B. The damage you see on the tooltip is not the pets actual damage, That’s simple to check, Look at the damage it lists right now…Now go remove all your gear, Look at the damage then, That’s the actual Delve of the ability. Yes Anet is that bad when it comes to tooltip information.
C. You can actually check what i’m saying right now, Have your pet Above land go beat on a mob, Time it…Now proceed to walk over to some water, and have the same pet kill a mob, Time the attack, You’ll see it’s 3 seconds, That was the same amount of time it took above land a patch ago..It’s been changed, the pet is attacking faster, and Tail Swipes cast time has been dropped (it was 3 seconds)
The blast finisher ALWAYS worked, that was the thing about it, and btw your gear does nothing to the pets tooltip, i should know, my gear has no power on it, and you do realize pets pause inbetween attacks right? all pets except i believe cats do this.
EDIT: Upon going into LA and having my drake attack one of the precise target dummies for a good 5minutes, he has yet to do ANYTHING other than his auto attack, you’re full of bull kitten, he’s not using his tail swipe, that is all.
To clear up any confusion go to this video, go to 2:40, the big mamma drake begins to use its tailswipe then. Again, what YOU are seeing is NOT the tailswipe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfph49mdiPYHmm, Weird doesn’t show the tooltip one sec i’ll find a better method
I’ll just read you the change, You can just check it yourself
1086 Power – Tail Swipe – 697 Damage
1141 Power – Tail Swipe – 732 DamageAs for the rest, Go bloody underwater and see for yourself.
I did… he’s not using it… it’s upsetting, i’ve only been using a drake since kittening beta, and i spend a good 50% of my time underwater…
That slow kitten attack he’s using is 3 second cast time, You can time it.. That’s Tail Swipe, It isn’t working as a Blast Finisher
But it is Tail Swipe, It was the same attack he was using above land till a patch ago, Now he’s using a really fast attack (and Tail Swipe is faster on land now as well, but it’s not working)
This will be in better quality in a second
but you can see what i’m referring to
They only used Tail Swipe before, How do I know? I timed it.
They swung every 3 seconds, which was the cast time of Tail Swipe.
Now they’re attacking far far faster then before.
and far faster then the current Tail Swipe cast time, It’s quite possible though Tail Swipe just doesn’t work now though.
This is false, if they were ONLY using tail swipe that would’ve been fixed immediately seeing as tail swipe has a 40s CD, has a BASE damage of 1.5k, is a blast finisher and a 360* AoE, their auto attack was just abysmally slow which is just how the drake pet roled even in Beta.
What the OP is likely getting confused with tail swipe is one of the drakes auto attacks, it will randomly use one of 3 animations for its auto attack, 2 are bites and the third is it turns to the side and slaps them with their tail, but that’s NOT tail swipe
A. I’ve never seen the blast finisher work period
B. The damage you see on the tooltip is not the pets actual damage, That’s simple to check, Look at the damage it lists right now…Now go remove all your gear, Look at the damage then, That’s the actual Delve of the ability. Yes Anet is that bad when it comes to tooltip information.
C. You can actually check what i’m saying right now, Have your pet Above land go beat on a mob, Time it…Now proceed to walk over to some water, and have the same pet kill a mob, Time the attack, You’ll see it’s 3 seconds, That was the same amount of time it took above land a patch ago..It’s been changed, the pet is attacking faster, and Tail Swipes cast time has been dropped (it was 3 seconds)
The blast finisher ALWAYS worked, that was the thing about it, and btw your gear does nothing to the pets tooltip, i should know, my gear has no power on it, and you do realize pets pause inbetween attacks right? all pets except i believe cats do this.
EDIT: Upon going into LA and having my drake attack one of the precise target dummies for a good 5minutes, he has yet to do ANYTHING other than his auto attack, you’re full of bull kitten, he’s not using his tail swipe, that is all.
To clear up any confusion go to this video, go to 2:40, the big mamma drake begins to use its tailswipe then. Again, what YOU are seeing is NOT the tailswipe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfph49mdiPYHmm, Weird doesn’t show the tooltip one sec i’ll find a better method
I’ll just read you the change, You can just check it yourself
1086 Power – Tail Swipe – 697 Damage
1141 Power – Tail Swipe – 732 DamageAs for the rest, Go bloody underwater and see for yourself.
I did… he’s not using it… it’s upsetting, i’ve only been using a drake since kittening beta, and i spend a good 50% of my time underwater…
That slow kitten attack he’s using is 3 second cast time, You can time it.. That’s Tail Swipe, It isn’t working as a Blast Finisher
But it is Tail Swipe, It was the same attack he was using above land till a patch ago, Now he’s using a really fast attack (and Tail Swipe is faster on land now as well, but it’s not working)
look, i just went underwater AGAIN, had each drake kill all 3 target dummies 3 times each, not a single kittening one of them used TAIL SWIPE they all used their auto attack
which is them slapping them with their tail while underwater, this was the SAME pre patch on land, but now they bite instead.
They only used Tail Swipe before, How do I know? I timed it.
They swung every 3 seconds, which was the cast time of Tail Swipe.
Now they’re attacking far far faster then before.
and far faster then the current Tail Swipe cast time, It’s quite possible though Tail Swipe just doesn’t work now though.
This is false, if they were ONLY using tail swipe that would’ve been fixed immediately seeing as tail swipe has a 40s CD, has a BASE damage of 1.5k, is a blast finisher and a 360* AoE, their auto attack was just abysmally slow which is just how the drake pet roled even in Beta.
What the OP is likely getting confused with tail swipe is one of the drakes auto attacks, it will randomly use one of 3 animations for its auto attack, 2 are bites and the third is it turns to the side and slaps them with their tail, but that’s NOT tail swipe
A. I’ve never seen the blast finisher work period
B. The damage you see on the tooltip is not the pets actual damage, That’s simple to check, Look at the damage it lists right now…Now go remove all your gear, Look at the damage then, That’s the actual Delve of the ability. Yes Anet is that bad when it comes to tooltip information.
C. You can actually check what i’m saying right now, Have your pet Above land go beat on a mob, Time it…Now proceed to walk over to some water, and have the same pet kill a mob, Time the attack, You’ll see it’s 3 seconds, That was the same amount of time it took above land a patch ago..It’s been changed, the pet is attacking faster, and Tail Swipes cast time has been dropped (it was 3 seconds)
The blast finisher ALWAYS worked, that was the thing about it, and btw your gear does nothing to the pets tooltip, i should know, my gear has no power on it, and you do realize pets pause inbetween attacks right? all pets except i believe cats do this.
EDIT: Upon going into LA and having my drake attack one of the precise target dummies for a good 5minutes, he has yet to do ANYTHING other than his auto attack, you’re full of bull kitten, he’s not using his tail swipe, that is all.
To clear up any confusion go to this video, go to 2:40, the big mamma drake begins to use its tailswipe then. Again, what YOU are seeing is NOT the tailswipe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfph49mdiPYHmm, Weird doesn’t show the tooltip one sec i’ll find a better method
I’ll just read you the change, You can just check it yourself
1086 Power – Tail Swipe – 697 Damage
1141 Power – Tail Swipe – 732 DamageAs for the rest, Go bloody underwater and see for yourself.
I did… he’s not using it… it’s upsetting, i’ve only been using a drake since kittening beta, and i spend a good 50% of my time underwater…
That slow kitten attack he’s using is 3 second cast time, You can time it.. That’s Tail Swipe, It isn’t working as a Blast Finisher
But it is Tail Swipe, It was the same attack he was using above land till a patch ago, Now he’s using a really fast attack (and Tail Swipe is faster on land now as well, but it’s not working)
look, i just went underwater AGAIN, had each drake kill all 3 target dummies 3 times each, not a single kittening one of them used TAIL SWIPE they all used their auto attack
which is them slapping them with their tail while underwater, this was the SAME pre patch on land, but now they bite instead.
time each attack
on land you’ll see it matches the Bite attack with is 1/4 Second
Under water you’ll see it matches Tail Swipe, which is 3 Seconds
They only used Tail Swipe before, How do I know? I timed it.
They swung every 3 seconds, which was the cast time of Tail Swipe.
Now they’re attacking far far faster then before.
and far faster then the current Tail Swipe cast time, It’s quite possible though Tail Swipe just doesn’t work now though.
This is false, if they were ONLY using tail swipe that would’ve been fixed immediately seeing as tail swipe has a 40s CD, has a BASE damage of 1.5k, is a blast finisher and a 360* AoE, their auto attack was just abysmally slow which is just how the drake pet roled even in Beta.
What the OP is likely getting confused with tail swipe is one of the drakes auto attacks, it will randomly use one of 3 animations for its auto attack, 2 are bites and the third is it turns to the side and slaps them with their tail, but that’s NOT tail swipe
A. I’ve never seen the blast finisher work period
B. The damage you see on the tooltip is not the pets actual damage, That’s simple to check, Look at the damage it lists right now…Now go remove all your gear, Look at the damage then, That’s the actual Delve of the ability. Yes Anet is that bad when it comes to tooltip information.
C. You can actually check what i’m saying right now, Have your pet Above land go beat on a mob, Time it…Now proceed to walk over to some water, and have the same pet kill a mob, Time the attack, You’ll see it’s 3 seconds, That was the same amount of time it took above land a patch ago..It’s been changed, the pet is attacking faster, and Tail Swipes cast time has been dropped (it was 3 seconds)
The blast finisher ALWAYS worked, that was the thing about it, and btw your gear does nothing to the pets tooltip, i should know, my gear has no power on it, and you do realize pets pause inbetween attacks right? all pets except i believe cats do this.
EDIT: Upon going into LA and having my drake attack one of the precise target dummies for a good 5minutes, he has yet to do ANYTHING other than his auto attack, you’re full of bull kitten, he’s not using his tail swipe, that is all.
To clear up any confusion go to this video, go to 2:40, the big mamma drake begins to use its tailswipe then. Again, what YOU are seeing is NOT the tailswipe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfph49mdiPYHmm, Weird doesn’t show the tooltip one sec i’ll find a better method
I’ll just read you the change, You can just check it yourself
1086 Power – Tail Swipe – 697 Damage
1141 Power – Tail Swipe – 732 DamageAs for the rest, Go bloody underwater and see for yourself.
I did… he’s not using it… it’s upsetting, i’ve only been using a drake since kittening beta, and i spend a good 50% of my time underwater…
That slow kitten attack he’s using is 3 second cast time, You can time it.. That’s Tail Swipe, It isn’t working as a Blast Finisher
But it is Tail Swipe, It was the same attack he was using above land till a patch ago, Now he’s using a really fast attack (and Tail Swipe is faster on land now as well, but it’s not working)
look, i just went underwater AGAIN, had each drake kill all 3 target dummies 3 times each, not a single kittening one of them used TAIL SWIPE they all used their auto attack
which is them slapping them with their tail while underwater, this was the SAME pre patch on land, but now they bite instead.time each attack
on land you’ll see it matches the Bite attack with is 1/4 Second
Under water you’ll see it matches Tail Swipe, which is 3 Seconds
Except for the fact that tail swipe has a 40 second cooldown. If it was true that drakes ONLY used tail swipe, then they would attack once every 43 seconds, not once every 3 seconds. Notice how bite has no cooldown. That is the attack drakes are using. They will never use chomp or tail swipe.
They only used Tail Swipe before, How do I know? I timed it.
They swung every 3 seconds, which was the cast time of Tail Swipe.
Now they’re attacking far far faster then before.
and far faster then the current Tail Swipe cast time, It’s quite possible though Tail Swipe just doesn’t work now though.
This is false, if they were ONLY using tail swipe that would’ve been fixed immediately seeing as tail swipe has a 40s CD, has a BASE damage of 1.5k, is a blast finisher and a 360* AoE, their auto attack was just abysmally slow which is just how the drake pet roled even in Beta.
What the OP is likely getting confused with tail swipe is one of the drakes auto attacks, it will randomly use one of 3 animations for its auto attack, 2 are bites and the third is it turns to the side and slaps them with their tail, but that’s NOT tail swipe
A. I’ve never seen the blast finisher work period
B. The damage you see on the tooltip is not the pets actual damage, That’s simple to check, Look at the damage it lists right now…Now go remove all your gear, Look at the damage then, That’s the actual Delve of the ability. Yes Anet is that bad when it comes to tooltip information.
C. You can actually check what i’m saying right now, Have your pet Above land go beat on a mob, Time it…Now proceed to walk over to some water, and have the same pet kill a mob, Time the attack, You’ll see it’s 3 seconds, That was the same amount of time it took above land a patch ago..It’s been changed, the pet is attacking faster, and Tail Swipes cast time has been dropped (it was 3 seconds)
The blast finisher ALWAYS worked, that was the thing about it, and btw your gear does nothing to the pets tooltip, i should know, my gear has no power on it, and you do realize pets pause inbetween attacks right? all pets except i believe cats do this.
EDIT: Upon going into LA and having my drake attack one of the precise target dummies for a good 5minutes, he has yet to do ANYTHING other than his auto attack, you’re full of bull kitten, he’s not using his tail swipe, that is all.
To clear up any confusion go to this video, go to 2:40, the big mamma drake begins to use its tailswipe then. Again, what YOU are seeing is NOT the tailswipe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfph49mdiPYHmm, Weird doesn’t show the tooltip one sec i’ll find a better method
I’ll just read you the change, You can just check it yourself
1086 Power – Tail Swipe – 697 Damage
1141 Power – Tail Swipe – 732 DamageAs for the rest, Go bloody underwater and see for yourself.
I did… he’s not using it… it’s upsetting, i’ve only been using a drake since kittening beta, and i spend a good 50% of my time underwater…
That slow kitten attack he’s using is 3 second cast time, You can time it.. That’s Tail Swipe, It isn’t working as a Blast Finisher
But it is Tail Swipe, It was the same attack he was using above land till a patch ago, Now he’s using a really fast attack (and Tail Swipe is faster on land now as well, but it’s not working)
look, i just went underwater AGAIN, had each drake kill all 3 target dummies 3 times each, not a single kittening one of them used TAIL SWIPE they all used their auto attack
which is them slapping them with their tail while underwater, this was the SAME pre patch on land, but now they bite instead.time each attack
on land you’ll see it matches the Bite attack with is 1/4 Second
Under water you’ll see it matches Tail Swipe, which is 3 Seconds
Except for the fact that tail swipe has a 40 second cooldown. If it was true that drakes ONLY used tail swipe, then they would attack once every 43 seconds, not once every 3 seconds. Notice how bite has no cooldown. That is the attack drakes are using. They will never use chomp or tail swipe.
Unless Tail Swipe was bugged and was in fact not working with a 40 second cooldown, Since tooltips have been messed up multiple times for the ranger pets already.
Of course it could also be possible that Bite simply uses the Tail Swipe Animation underwater and that’s why it takes that long.
I could actually see that being a reasonable suggestion as to why it’s not a Blast Finisher, and would explain things pretty easily.
Unless Tail Swipe was bugged and was in fact not working with a 40 second cooldown, Since tooltips have been messed up multiple times for the ranger pets already.
Tail swipe has a very distinctive animation. The drake will do a complete 360 degree spin, which you don’t see while the drake uses bite. Enemy drakes use this skill, which is accompanied by a knockback.
I’m not saying that our pet drakes’ tail swipe will launch foes, but it would have the same animation, don’t you think?
Unless Tail Swipe was bugged and was in fact not working with a 40 second cooldown, Since tooltips have been messed up multiple times for the ranger pets already.
Tail swipe has a very distinctive animation. The drake will do a complete 360 degree spin, which you don’t see while the drake uses bite. Enemy drakes use this skill, which is accompanied by a knockback.
I’m not saying that our pet drakes’ tail swipe will launch foes, but it would have the same animation, don’t you think?
I honestly couldn’t tell you if it would have the same Animation or not…If its got a knockback though i’d think it’s not the same thing as Tail Swipe
Either The Animation for Bite is just awful underwater (where it takes 3 seconds to attack which is the same delve as Tail Swipe) or Bite underwater is using Tail Swipes Animation (which I think is far more likely, and why it’s not a Blast Finisher)
I’m leaning towards the 2nd one personally… Cause it explains everything perfectly.
Try not to use Test Dummies.
Pet’s are governed by AI, which is not limited to automatically performing skills in a certain order or after a certain amount of time has elapsed. Taking them to the Mists will keep you from seeing a good chunk of family pet skills because they’re automatic responses to certain conditions, and a test dummy doesn’t actually do anything to create them.
You’re right OP, Chomp is working now.
Seems to tied to Pet Health, when it’s HP is at about 30-40% or so.
It’s a cone attack too. Delightfully nasty little bugger.
The animation you’re seeing is Drake underwater autoattack.
If you go take your Drake and prod some other Drake underwater they’ll get into a tail slapping contest. At least, until their HP gets low enough to try and spastically Chomp themselves to health again. So they are using the same animations as the enemy models…for whatever that’s worth. As to whether or not that autoattack is in fact an underwater version of Tail Swipe or Bite it is kind of confusing.
I still haven’t seen Tail Swipe on land, but, I’ll give it another round of toying with seeing as how Chomp got a hotfix since the last time I checked.
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Try not to use Test Dummies.
Pet’s are governed by AI, which is not limited to automatically performing skills in a certain order or after a certain amount of time has elapsed. Taking them to the Mists will keep you from seeing a good chunk of family pet skills because they’re automatic responses to certain conditions, and a test dummy doesn’t actually do anything to create them.You’re right OP, Chomp is working now.
Seems to tied to Pet Health, when it’s HP is at about 30-40% or so.
It’s a cone attack too. Delightfully nasty little bugger.The animation you’re seeing is Drake underwater autoattack.
If you go take your Drake and prod some other Drake underwater they’ll get into a tail slapping contest. At least, until their HP gets low enough to try and spastically Chomp themselves to health again. So they are using the same animations as the enemy models…for whatever that’s worth. As to whether or not that autoattack is in fact an underwater version of Tail Swipe or Bite it is kind of confusing.I still haven’t seen Tail Swipe on land, but, I’ll give it another round of toying with seeing as how Chomp got a hotfix since the last time I checked.
So you think its just crappy animation instead for the Underwater attack that just happens to be 3 seconds?
I’m more curious about Chomp, wonder if it worked before we just didn’t notice it.
Chomp works, It seems he’ll just use it when it’s below I think 75% life.
I tried to get Tail Swipe to work above land, but could not.
Chomp works underwater as well.
Any word on this? I have a Juvenile Ice Drake and the blast finisher is never used. I’m going for a melee trap based ranger with combo fields and finishers and drakes seem ideal if they worked as advertised. Has there been a bug submitted on this.
Any word on this? I have a Juvenile Ice Drake and the blast finisher is never used. I’m going for a melee trap based ranger with combo fields and finishers and drakes seem ideal if they worked as advertised. Has there been a bug submitted on this.
I’ve submitted a report on it personally (as I’m sure others have), its been in the Ranger bug list for a while, then there’s this…
Pretty sure its known about and from the sounds of that post even being actively looked at.
Chomp works, It seems he’ll just use it when it’s below I think 75% life.
I tried to get Tail Swipe to work above land, but could not.
Chomp works underwater as well.
Chomp actually doesn’t work… both chomp AND tailswipe have very very very distinctive animations, if you watched that vid i posted you’d see them. Tailswipes is so obvious that if you don’t notice it you should gouge your eyes out because you’re not using them anyways.
I’ve been using a drake since BWE1 (very occasionally swapping him out for something else) and he has yet to use anything other than bite… Well, that’s false, he’s used tailswipe twice both of which were after he was KB 3-4 times he ran back over and tailswiped and destroyed the mob… it was beautiful… if only he’d keep using it =(.
PS: Underwater the drakes animations have always been longer (with exception of F2) due to their animations, however their tail swipe and chomp skills do SIGNIFICANTLY more damage while under water.
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