Guild Wars 2

What the hell is it?

I just fought a trio of Black Gate on Tarnished Coast and killed them and they invited me. Told me I was exploiting the pet swap bug (stated “I saw the effect!”) and I was reported. The only thing I could think of is I am running BM with an Eagle and Go for The Eyes/Wilting and the Taunt. I don’t even swap…it’s all Eagle unless I need a rupt from wolf for various reasons. So I spam the GFTE and Wilting on 5 Sec resuse and the taunt ever third F2

I’m basically all glass armor/weapons/Amulet/back and Trinkets/rings Cavalier and running WS/NM/BM in a defensive SoTF setup.

I do something that’s been deemed blacklisted or an exploit that I don’t know of?

You should have told them the only thing you exploited was their weakness and skill less play.

they salty , the fact the pet swap bug only works with Clarions bond + transmogrification tonic which causes the transmog effect on the charater (white cloud effect)

and again they salty they have no idea what ranger did before patch , let alone after.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

they salty , the fact the pet swap bug only works with Clarions bond + transmogrification tonic which causes the transmog effect on the charater (white cloud effect)

and again they salty they have no idea what ranger did before patch , let alone after.

I certainly wasn’t doing that lol…I guess they saw the Taunt floater was all I could think of.

Not just your server. Our EBG map chat blew up last night when a bunch of DB or AR players pushed the envelope with certain trait and class combos. Lots of people crying foul, report this, report that, cheating, bla bla bla.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not exactly thrilled about getting rolled but I at least can admit they didn’t cheat or exploit. Just taking advantage of the patch is all which Arena Net perfectly knows what is and isn’t broke. Hell, our side is doing the same thing – not like a Mesmer is supposed to have perma stealth. Never retook a keep as easy as that.

Per A.net: Just getting these out there so we know we are all in agreement:

1) Conditions seem a bit strong
2) World bosses are currently too easy
3) There are some bugged skills and traits
4) There are some overpowered builds

Did you ask them what the exploit is?

Kain Francois.4328:

Did you ask them what the exploit is?

There’s no point.

I faced a warrior (I know right…) the other day. I taunted him. He died.
He whispered me that I was a cheater, he’s reporting me and blocked me after…
… And the legend says he has been dying ever since.

We won the fight with 500-220 score? I wasn’t even using the Clarion Bond at that time. I was running full evade (SB + s/d) Carrion BM build.
Children have always been this way. They hear a whisper about a bug and they misunderstand their ego for justice and roll around whining, blaming and accusing everyone playing the class without having a slight idea what the bug/exploit is.

If I’m correct you can’t even use tonics in a sPvP match. WvW is the only environment where this can be abused.

Anet nerfed this trait into worthless status as far as PVE goes.. soo….. Don’t worry about it.

The problem here is Anet doing what QQ warriors/eles/thiefs use to play for free bags complain and report.
Instead use the common sense.
Really.. after all the nerfs we got and still nerfing.
I was hoping Anet to balance things.. Instead keep breaking more and more the profession same as did with spirits and traps.

Unbelievable.

It’s amusing how people start to cry over a reversed change that was supposed to work like this from the beginning.

The note saying: 30 sec CD; was there ever since the trait was designed. The description of the ability used was exactly there.
The same design was on Keen Edge trait for years and none of you complained. An exploitable bug was removed and here the fest begins.

I am not sure guyz. Ranger is now able to blow 4 blast finishers in combat, one after another. I find it enough. I’m not saying that it wouldn’t be nice to be as OP as eles have been for years, but I just don’t need more.

Tragic Positive.9356:

We won the fight with 500-220 score? I wasn’t even using the Clarion Bond at that time. I was running full evade (SB + s/d) Carrion BM build..

We actually lost due to playing 4vs5 the whole game. Still a close one though.

Tragic Positive.9356:

I am not sure guyz. Ranger is now able to blow 4 blast finishers in combat, one after another. I find it enough. I’m not saying that it wouldn’t be nice to be as OP as eles have been for years, but I just don’t need more.

4 blast finishers? ô.o
How do you do that? I only know Hunters Call as blast finisher, which you can trigger 2 times with weapon and trait. And there is a blast finisher on drake pets, but you can’t control that.

Kodama.6453:

Tragic Positive.9356:

I am not sure guyz. Ranger is now able to blow 4 blast finishers in combat, one after another. I find it enough. I’m not saying that it wouldn’t be nice to be as OP as eles have been for years, but I just don’t need more.

4 blast finishers? ô.o
How do you do that? I only know Hunters Call as blast finisher, which you can trigger 2 times with weapon and trait. And there is a blast finisher on drake pets, but you can’t control that.

Yep, you only can cast 2. Tragic Positive is a positive thinker and always tend to make ranger looks better than actually it is. There are a couple of users like that in this forums, and i think because of that anet don’t take seriously anything we write here.

In other forums the people realize when something is a nerf (intended or not) and they complain when they feel they have.

As a lot of ppl said in this thread: ICD equal to pet swap (15 secs) is fine. 30 with no way to know what is going on is bsht.

Kodama.6453:

Tragic Positive.9356:

I am not sure guyz. Ranger is now able to blow 4 blast finishers in combat, one after another. I find it enough. I’m not saying that it wouldn’t be nice to be as OP as eles have been for years, but I just don’t need more.

4 blast finishers? ô.o
How do you do that? I only know Hunters Call as blast finisher, which you can trigger 2 times with weapon and trait. And there is a blast finisher on drake pets, but you can’t control that.

The long CD ability is the 1st ability a pet will use if you don’t give him any order (not even the attack order).

Yes, for this you need to keep them on Aggressive.
It’s close to as you say – you don’t have control of those abilities – but you know when to expect them.

anduriell.6280:

Yep, you only can cast 2. Tragic Positive is a positive thinker and always tend to make ranger looks better than actually it is. There are a couple of users like that in this forums, and i think because of that anet don’t take seriously anything we write here.

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Yes, this is definitely the whole and only reason and I’m definitely the one responsible for so many changes we received from A-net the 2 last big updates (but only the bad ones, of course).

And it doesn’t have anything in common that they rarely read any ideas in Ranger forums, or that they do not main rangers themselves.

And it’s exactly that I disagree with the QoL buff to make it a 15 sec. CD. And you can even see it in my comment. Oh wait. I accidentally left that out. I only mentioned that I wouldn’t make a huge use of it in PvE or sPvP anyways (since I don’t WvW much theses days)

Tragic Positive.9356:

Kodama.6453:

Tragic Positive.9356:

I am not sure guyz. Ranger is now able to blow 4 blast finishers in combat, one after another. I find it enough. I’m not saying that it wouldn’t be nice to be as OP as eles have been for years, but I just don’t need more.

4 blast finishers? ô.o
How do you do that? I only know Hunters Call as blast finisher, which you can trigger 2 times with weapon and trait. And there is a blast finisher on drake pets, but you can’t control that.

The long CD ability is the 1st ability a pet will use if you don’t give him any order (not even the attack order).

Yes, for this you need to keep them on Aggressive.
It’s close to as you say – you don’t have control of those abilities – but you know when to expect them.

anduriell.6280:

Yep, you only can cast 2. Tragic Positive is a positive thinker and always tend to make ranger looks better than actually it is. There are a couple of users like that in this forums, and i think because of that anet don’t take seriously anything we write here.

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Yes, this is definitely the whole and only reason and I’m definitely the one responsible for so many changes we received from A-net the 2 last big updates (but only the bad ones, of course).

And it doesn’t have anything in common that they rarely read any ideas in Ranger forums, or that they do not main rangers themselves.

And it’s exactly that I disagree with the QoL buff to make it a 15 sec. CD. And you can even see it in my comment. Oh wait. I accidentally left that out. I only mentioned that I wouldn’t make a huge use of it in PvE or sPvP anyways (since I don’t WvW much theses days)

I think you are giving yourself too much credit for something no one from anet said.
The QoL shouldn’t have ICD because the boons don’t last enough except for swiftness. You would know that if you would have used it.

That you don’t use that trait doesn’t mean other users find it useful and is very irrespective from you to say is ok when is not. Very bearbow like if i may say.
In my case i didn’t find the exploit i don’t use tonics. But i was using QoL as intended, every pet swap while in combat and that was useful.

If the Devs must they should have stablish an ICD as a lot of ppl said: a trait that is activated by other actions that have CD should have the same ICD as that action’s CD.
Otherwise is just hell to manage that. Here just using common sense.

See what happened to the spirits with the: i don’t know how much time has left to cast the skill .

They keep nerfing instead fixing other stuff like sword#1 or even to be able to see in my bar what conditions/boons are affecting my pet.

Wait rangers have taunt?

Knighthonor.4061:

Wait rangers have taunt?

Beastmastery grandmaster trait Beastly Warden gives 2s taunt in a small area around the pet when using its F2 skill.

anduriell.6280:

I think you are giving yourself too much credit for something no one from anet said.
The QoL shouldn’t have ICD because the boons don’t last enough except for swiftness. You would know that if you would have used it.

That you don’t use that trait doesn’t mean other users find it useful and is very irrespective from you to say is ok when is not. Very bearbow like if i may say.
In my case i didn’t find the exploit i don’t use tonics. But i was using QoL as intended, every pet swap while in combat and that was useful.

If the Devs must they should have stablish an ICD as a lot of ppl said: a trait that is activated by other actions that have CD should have the same ICD as that action’s CD.
Otherwise is just hell to manage that. Here just using common sense.

See what happened to the spirits with the: i don’t know how much time has left to cast the skill .

They keep nerfing instead fixing other stuff like sword#1 or even to be able to see in my bar what conditions/boons are affecting my pet.

Let me get a few things straight…

I stressed it like a hundred times, but it might not have been obvious enough. My whole past response was nothing but a huge load of sarcasm.

You have mistaken every single letter of my thread, including that I don’t use the trait, even though I do. Learn to read properly. I wouldn’t have made a use of shorter cooldown – is what I said.
In PvE – Other people provide swiftness, too. The boss won’t last longer than 15 seconds, so that I wouldn’t really need the second blast. Outside of combat – swap to warhorn makes the deal.
If you want it for perma AoE fury – you already have Red Moa for that.

In PvP – I found myself in better need of Enlargement even when pet swap was a thing.

But the biggest issue that I have mentioned 1st and everyone ignored:
~ The ability was designed to have a 30 second cooldown from the beginning. No one said a word! Everyone cheered to death! You all saw the CD back then and you all praised the A-net gods. Now that you realized the current mechanic was unintentional – you smack the head to the wall sticking heads up talking balance stuff.

I was not referring to strength / value / QoL – I was referring to the hypocrisy of people who pretend to know better based on their feelings rather than numbers that have been set months ago.
Let me take a guess. Do you remember what the topic of this thread is?
Exactly, it’s the exploit. Not a thread about whether the CD is fine or not. They solved the issue of the exploit – and here it goes.

If you want to address Warhorn’s #5 ability – address that one. That, after all, is the problem you see. Not Clarion’s Bond.

Tragic Positive.9356:

But the biggest issue that I have mentioned 1st and everyone ignored:
~ The ability was designed to have a 30 second cooldown from the beginning. No one said a word! Everyone cheered to death! You all saw the CD back then and you all praised the A-net gods. Now that you realized the current mechanic was unintentional – you smack the head to the wall sticking heads up talking balance stuff.

I was not referring to strength / value / QoL – I was referring to the hypocrisy of people who pretend to know better based on their feelings rather than numbers that have been set months ago.
Let me take a guess. Do you remember what the topic of this thread is?
Exactly, it’s the exploit. Not a thread about whether the CD is fine or not. They solved the issue of the exploit – and here it goes.

If you want to address Warhorn’s #5 ability – address that one. That, after all, is the problem you see. Not Clarion’s Bond.

IKR, nobody complained about CB having a 30s CD back then, or that you would be able to trait it with Windborne notes for 12s of regen and get the 24s CD.

If you look at the patch notes, they added the CD to the Call of the Wild skill, not the trait which triggers it.

It is still 50% uptime of swiftness and fury and far better than the other adepts in MM. Just saying.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

IKR, nobody complained about CB having a 30s CD back then, or that you would be able to trait it with Windborne notes for 12s of regen and get the 24s CD.

If you look at the patch notes, they added the CD to the Call of the Wild skill, not the trait which triggers it.

It is still 50% uptime of swiftness and fury and far better than the other adepts in MM. Just saying.

And now you’re going to get pointed out for stating the obvious just like me. It’s a kitteny duty, but somebody has to do it.

Still, I find it funny that people want it to “be reliable” to have it on every weapon swap. Which is 20 seconds CD (This trait has nothing to do with BM) and not 15 seconds as they claim. Not to mention I sincerely doubt they used pet swap on cooldown.

I always use it when my pet is about to die (PvP) or at the beginning of the fight for the blast (PvE). I said it before and I’ll say it again. I never felt the need to have shorter cooldown on it because in PvP I swap pets when I need it (not for the trait) and in PvE I never got the opportunity for the 2nd blast. The boss already died.

Ranger already has access to perma swiftness, Perma Fury, Perma Regen, and most of it on 1 trait and 1 off-hand weapon alone. I sometimes think that Rangers are getting much more like warriors in terms of whining.

Tragic Positive.9356:

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

IKR, nobody complained about CB having a 30s CD back then, or that you would be able to trait it with Windborne notes for 12s of regen and get the 24s CD.

If you look at the patch notes, they added the CD to the Call of the Wild skill, not the trait which triggers it.

It is still 50% uptime of swiftness and fury and far better than the other adepts in MM. Just saying.

And now you’re going to get pointed out for stating the obvious just like me. It’s a kitteny duty, but somebody has to do it.

Still, I find it funny that people want it to “be reliable” to have it on every weapon swap. Which is 20 seconds CD (This trait has nothing to do with BM) and not 15 seconds as they claim. Not to mention I sincerely doubt they used pet swap on cooldown.

I always use it when my pet is about to die (PvP) or at the beginning of the fight for the blast (PvE). I said it before and I’ll say it again. I never felt the need to have shorter cooldown on it because in PvP I swap pets when I need it (not for the trait) and in PvE I never got the opportunity for the 2nd blast. The boss already died.

Ranger already has access to perma swiftness, Perma Fury, Perma Regen, and most of it on 1 trait and 1 off-hand weapon alone. I sometimes think that Rangers are getting much more like warriors in terms of whining.

I don’t think it’s too much to ask to be honest. Other professions provide more damage and more group utility than even the best rangers. The fact that guardians just got the best quickness skill in the game edges rangers out of the meta even further.

Quarktastic.1027:

I don’t think it’s too much to ask to be honest. Other professions provide more damage and more group utility than even the best rangers. The fact that guardians just got the best quickness skill in the game edges rangers out of the meta even further.

I just think it would be better to ask for attention at different places than mechanics that you already can get up to full potential.
I believe we both could agree on that.

About PvE meta – I fail to comprehend how meta can be measured when every single content is being facerolled by Icebows and Fiery Greatswords. There would be much more competition and space for Rangers and everyone else if every single group didn’t have to consist of 3 eles.