Guild Wars 2

Zenith.7301:

Sol.4310:

Thief’s can’t perma stealth anymore and heavy stealth builds are garbage…..

Tactics do what I did ask a good thief to let me train vs him to understand how they work and worked on finding a weakness or combos that work against them.

I spent hole week in SPvP duelling thiefs just to learn them. WvW sure there stronger but so are we.

LR or Signet of renewal and a sword is all you need these days to beat your avg thief.

I personally use Signet now over LR as it help with condition remove and team support and its good vs condition thiefs let them spam stack you then just wipe it and with right skill set counter attack.

They can spam cnd still in wvw just fine. Your damage uptime on them vs how much they regen while stealth makes them a real pain in the kitten

You still haven’t described what these tactics are. If the thief doesn’t want to die, he won’t. He can reset the fight however much he pleases. The best you can do as a ranger is deny them killing you, but I don’t consider that a victory.

and how is it a victory for the thief? are you saying a thief is OP because they can run away from battle? I will admit its better for not taking armor damage, but running away is not winning a battle, and usually not of much service in sPVP or WvW

CnD isn’t as much of a problem anymore.
Rarely do thieves go for it, and if they do pop it, they are probably going for an instagib spike.

D/P’s stealth is unstoppable and with the thief pretty much regening all the initiative used for the stealth combo in 5~ seconds along with a few thousand life…. it is an utter, utter pain to fight.

They don’t use cnd to kill pets — they use it to get a free heal/condi removal/target drop. And you can’t stop it, compared to a no pet class which can dodge the cnd.

And what aoe/swinging will you do? Most cnd spamm thieves are p/d thieves, and last I checked they don’t stay in melee range when stealthing, and with the ease of cnd on melee pets they dont even need to stealth near you.