Guild Wars 2

as L62 (all yellow gear) Ranger my WvW Experience is basicaly pretty simple:

> Shortbow is to weak and only has 1200 range and is missing everything

> Longbow has 1500 (traited) Range but is to slow and hits nothing its dissapointing to use it.

a 10 sec LOG of Ranger PvP combat

Miss, Miss, Miss, Miss, Miss and Miss
Obstructed, Obstructed, Obstructed even if theres nothing in the way
Invalunerable……… it seems every class has this but Rangers

80-90 % of my arrows get lost and hit nothing if they hit then they do no damage at all.

if lucky i see > You hit for 535 youhit for 230 but usually enemies Dissapear before their dead or laugh about it.

Thiefs eliminate me in 3 seconds and other classes maybe need 5-10 seconds

i have ZERO escape utility only 2 run buffs (which i have to use all time)

AH ! I have a Pet ! well its always dead, to slow, F2 doesnt work, Its honestly a waste. The Ranger pet in PvP contributes nothing to the class.

Usually i ignore the pet in PvP best if they remove it from the Ranger class in PvP and give us a Buff instead.

IN SHORT > Rangers are completly useless in PvP as they are right now every other class can do better job.

Ah yes ! i see the repair guy all time “Great Fix me Up!” 1-2 silver gone

PVE Rangers are ok but in PvP Rangers are replaceable by every other class

Rangers need urgend help, best if the whole class gets a redesign

Well actually WvW is something where you can have loads of fun with a ranger. I´d suggest you to turn level 80. Unless your not in full berserker gear, you shouldn´t get killed within 3 seconds by thieves. If it´s still going to be the case then… you might be doing something wrong.

I gave up on my LB and i’m now rocking SB / Axe + Warhorn. The results have been very impressive in skirmishes! 18.8k HP with my Axe + Warhorn out, dealing 1.2k crits and tonnes of bleeds

you need better gear and a bit of l2p.

try 30/0/25/0/15

use traited SoS
Sb, Sw/horn

but yes, the class also has problems which hopefully Anet will take a look at once they have finished making thier pumpkin dyes.

The class does have issues, but most of what the OP wrote is his own issue. Yes it’s annoying to see “obstructed” for no good reason. Yes, it’s annoying that pet AI is just this side of kitten and has great difficulty attacking anything that moves — which is everything in PVP. For PVE I would also add that my pet couldn’t hold aggro if I glued it to his paw.

But if you’re getting hit by anything other than another ranged player, you’re doing it wrong. Longbow & shortbow. Or, your weapon is “the bow” and you have 10 skills. However you want to look at it. If a bow ranger ever gets killed by a melee player, it happened because you were in the wrong place and doing the wrong thing. Swords and knives can only hurt you if for some reason you take your ranged class into melee range. Why on Earth would you do that?

Ranger doesn’t mean it’s immediately a ranged class. I prefer to use my Greatsword over a Bow for awhile already cause it feels more dynamic then a bow which seems to be have multiple issues and is still being tweaked by Arenanet. Greatsword might not be so strong but at least everything works and I can enjoy myself just as well if not better. You just need to change your traits around to focus a bit more on defensive stats and it works out fine.

Why on Earth would I do that? Cause it’s fun and I enjoy it and maybe others as well. It’s like saying that the Warrior is a ranged class cause it has a rifle and bow available to it and ignoring the other weapons it has to it’s disposal.

TravisTrout.6803:

The class does have issues, but most of what the OP wrote is his own issue. Yes it’s annoying to see “obstructed” for no good reason. Yes, it’s annoying that pet AI is just this side of kitten and has great difficulty attacking anything that moves — which is everything in PVP. For PVE I would also add that my pet couldn’t hold aggro if I glued it to his paw.

But if you’re getting hit by anything other than another ranged player, you’re doing it wrong. Longbow & shortbow. Or, your weapon is “the bow” and you have 10 skills. However you want to look at it. If a bow ranger ever gets killed by a melee player, it happened because you were in the wrong place and doing the wrong thing. Swords and knives can only hurt you if for some reason you take your ranged class into melee range. Why on Earth would you do that?

stun/immo/chill/cripple/gap closers?

Leviatana.8107:

Ranger doesn’t mean it’s immediately a ranged class…

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/professions/ranger/
“Rangers rely on a keen eye, a steady hand, and the power of nature itself. Unparalleled archers, rangers are capable of bringing down foes from a distance with their bows. With traps, nature spirits, and a stable of loyal pets at their command, rangers can adapt to any situation.”
I don’t know, to me, it means bows are our source of damage, traps/spirits/pets are situation based.

In my opinion the reason why ppl cant enjoy rangers is cause they are expecting a Hunter,big numbers with bows and a constant attacking pet like a condition..

WvW is not really a place where you will kill pretty much…something before you get to level 80 and gear up, hell…even killing a mob in WvW is tough being low level where as a geared level 80 kills it within seconds.

I didn’t use to like longbow, but since i joined WvW to complete the maps i’ve been using it with full berseker gear and i have to say the weapon needs a few tweaks but it’s decent. But it’s one of these weapons that either you have full damage gear or it will be completely garbage.
It can pop 1-3k+ autoattack crits depending on your target’s armor, and rapid fire + QZ is very deadly from max range…until a thief aproaches to you and insta kill you in two shots (11k+ backstabs).

So far the only class that it’s impossible to kill as ranger if they play any good are thieves, no matter what people say or if you use a more tanky build or Protect Me/LS, if they are half decent you have NO chance, if you ever beat thieves in 1v1 they were not decent players or level 80 geared ones.

Knock it off ! ! ! Rangers useless in PVP no way. All newbies need that sure kill to boost their confidence and kill stats and thats where we come in and with us Elementalist wouldn’t any kills at all. So cheer up we have a very important job as the goto most killable class in GW2 and at least in the top 5 of easy kills of MMO everywhere.

Look at it this way on the nerfs to come things can’t get much worse its all uphill from here.

Dardamaniac.1295:

In my opinion the reason why ppl cant enjoy rangers is cause they are expecting a Hunter,big numbers with bows and a constant attacking pet like a condition..

There is a reason why other games Ranger’s are like that. To make it mandatory that all of the Ranger’s damage comes from a computer controlled npc is stupid to have in a PvP game, especially if they want to make it an esport.

Give people the option sure but not mandatory.