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Posted by: JonPeters.5630

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It has come to my attention that this uses a different model than the blue Jellyfish that happens to look Kitten EXACTLY the same. I am planning on fixing this within the next month but needed to get some feedback from rangers about their feelings about their HoM rainbow jellyfish pets changing how they look. I can assume that they will be happy, but you know what happens when you assume.

Post your thoughts on this internet forum thread and I will read them.

Jon

Reference image for the rainbow jellyfish old/new included: http://imgur.com/3DSAO3e

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

Are you saying that if we use the Rainbow Jellyfish we’re going to glow all rainbow!?!

THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!!

Could it work on land too plox =D?

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Posted by: Seyyah.6135

Seyyah.6135

i assume, you guys should fix the class itself first… but as you said… you know what happens when you assume…

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

i assume, you guys should fix the class itself first… but as you said… you know what happens when you assume…

Yeah… the Class could use -some- fixes, but i’d much rather have my HoM reward be shiney and pretty than be balanced in WvW and PvE (we’re fine in PvP which is where i play competitively).

Then again that’s me, and my opinion… and i know a lot of people are going to screech at me for it xD

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Posted by: ensoriki.5789

ensoriki.5789

does the new one glow or something?

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Posted by: JonPeters.5630

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JonPeters.5630

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does the new one glow or something?

I added an image for reference. It doesn’t really show it off in motion, but I’m not skilled enough to make an animated gif. I will say the new one is cooler looking IMO and does have a cool “glowy” membrane on its head.

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Posted by: DiogoSilva.7089

DiogoSilva.7089

The new one is prettier from the image alone, and if it has a “glowy” membrane, all the better.

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

Sebrent.3625

Perhaps I’m too colorblind to really notice a difference. Only difference I see is a bit of different coloring/texturing on the top “dome”.

I’m fine with either and I don’t have it anyways.

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Posted by: DiogoSilva.7089

DiogoSilva.7089

I’d say you should go forward and make this change. If people like the current look, they can simply get the blue Jellyfish. More diversity is better than unneeded redudancy.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

Omg that’s awesome!!

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Posted by: Bane.3127

Bane.3127

How about someone reminds you how broken traits, pets, spirits, signet cooldowns and dungeon rangers are?

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

I’d say you should go forward and make this change. If people like the current look, they can simply get the blue Jellyfish. More diversity is better than pointless redudancy.

Not to mention they have the same F2s, so they’d literally have 0 drawbacks.

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Posted by: Boomstin.3460

Boomstin.3460

New one looks definately nice. And more variety is always welcome

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

It has come to my attention that this uses a different model than the blue Jellyfish that happens to look Kitten EXACTLY the same. I am planning on fixing this within the next month but needed to get some feedback from rangers about their feelings about their HoM rainbow jellyfish pets changing how they look. I can assume that they will be happy, but you know what happens when you assume.

Post your thoughts on this internet forum thread and I will read them.

Jon

Reference image for the rainbow jellyfish old/new included: http://imgur.com/3DSAO3e

nice prelude to aqua buffs.

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

Rising Dusk.2408

I use this on my Ranger and honestly, I barely noticed because most jellyfish look basically the same anyway. I think if the new model has some sort of rainbow trail coming from its tendrils to really set it apart from the rest, that’d be super swell. I’m totally down for the change at large, though.

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Posted by: Rewiinded.9401

Rewiinded.9401

We don’t care. Just give us a dps increase and the ability to play without a pet so we are actually a viable profession in a dungeon.

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Posted by: MithranArkanere.8957

MithranArkanere.8957

All I wanted for it is to have the colors of the rainbow on its axis, animated. Red followed by orange, followed by yellow and so on, and they all go from the proximal end to the distal end, in a continuous animation.

You know, like so:

But in the axis, and following the rainbow colors.

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Posted by: Pedra.4381

Pedra.4381

Is the intent of this post that it be in the same vein of the developer that was laughing about Ranger aquatic fixes in the ArenaNet discussion video? I’m just curious.

JonPeters.5630:]I do still believe ranger is the profession in most need of improvement…

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Posted by: Killsmith.8169

Killsmith.8169

It depends on who is doing this. If this isn’t taking resources from the balance team, then I don’t care. If it’s a form vs. function issue, I’ll take function every time.

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Posted by: Leaf.3156

Leaf.3156

Yes, this is TOTALLY what the ranger needs.

Not fixing their horrid trait lines, not improving pet AI, not making utility skills actually bring some UTILITY in a team, no, what rangers really need is a fix for the rainbow freaking jellyfish texture.

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Posted by: Mute Herald.8541

Mute Herald.8541

I really appreciate that a Designer would take the time to make a post about this issue specifically with us Rangers. Very cool, so thanks Jon!

I love the jelly-pet and I use both the blue and red one and I am glad that they look different from each other. So having a third jelly-look for the rainbow would be awesome! Despite the name however, I hope that there isn’t a lot of rainbow action going with this new skin. Ranger’s already have some very flowery and flashy Legendary weapons, so the more natural and subtle looking Ranger items/pets are very much appreciated for my character aesthetic.

That being said, it might be interesting to play with some bioluminescence like others have posted about, but maybe the glow’s color could slowly cycle through a small spectrum to play off the rainbow aspect without having every color visible at the same time.

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Posted by: Holy Socks.3195

Holy Socks.3195

WOAH

I’ve been waiting for this for like, ever! Thanks Jon you’re the best <3DDDDD

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Posted by: layne.3241

layne.3241

I just don’t think this is the right time to be worrin with dem jelly skins
try and focus on the actual class
just sayin
#YOLO

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

Sebrent.3625

Hey boys, it is possible to do this and other things. Just saying.

Durzlla.6295 makes a good point about the fact that you still have the blue jellyfish with the same F2 skill available if you don’t like the new rainbow jellyfish.

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Posted by: Eccentric Duck.7510

Eccentric Duck.7510

WOW, thanks for this <33333333333333 just what the ranger class needs <3 <3

: ^ )

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Posted by: Aridia.3042

Aridia.3042

Hey boys, it is possible to do this and other things. Just saying.

Durzlla.6295 makes a good point about the fact that you still have the blue jellyfish with the same F2 skill available if you don’t like the new rainbow jellyfish.

While you’re at it, maybe someone can explain what the difference is between hawks and eagles…aside from hawks having a better icon.

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Posted by: Leaf.3156

Leaf.3156

Hey boys, it is possible to do this and other things. Just saying.

Durzlla.6295 makes a good point about the fact that you still have the blue jellyfish with the same F2 skill available if you don’t like the new rainbow jellyfish.

You don’t understand. The ranger profession is so unfinished that EA is trying to publish it, and here’s Jon, who promised “big buffs” in what ended up to be known as the “Aquaman Update”, talking about a PET TEXTURE instead of talking about actual issues.

Just saying, it’s not really good for his rep around here.

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Posted by: ItIsFinished.9462

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Anet Team: "Let’s troll the Ranger community.

JohnPeters: “Why?”

Anet Team: "Well, we are rolling out some uber buffs to the Rangers in a few days so we should kick them while they are down.

JohnPeters: “Good idea.”

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I like the changes btw.

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Posted by: Bane.3127

Bane.3127

2/10 you’re trying too hard Jon

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Posted by: Aenia Shadowforce.9148

Aenia Shadowforce.9148

@ ItIsFinished.9462
Made my day
Totally agree on buff in PvE
About jellyfish: well, I know that elite stuff is and should be elite, but… we already have rainbow animation in game. What Im thinking about is The Bifrost. And its land-only weapon, so there is no underwater animation that looks like rainbow Bifrost aura, maybe jellyfish could get something like this around?

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Posted by: Bri.8354

Bri.8354

The one in the image you provided looks too green and blue, not enough rainbow to fit its name.

There’s a nice concept art picture of the rainbow jellyfish in the hall of monuments website page. It would be cool if it could reflect that, which would kind of be a reverse of the blue jellyfish colors (blue/green on top, red on bottom opposed to red on top, blue/green on bottom)

And if its not too much work, would it be possible to give its F2 skill special colors? It would be awesome if its whirl would be all rainbow colored rather than snowy.

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Posted by: kaat.8237

kaat.8237

I would love a rainbow jelly that was actually rainbow in color. Really though, anything to make it different than the other jellys would be nice.

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Posted by: Spritemage.4609

Spritemage.4609

Hey Jon! I honestly find the new model of the Rainbow Jellyfish to be a bit underwhelming. It looks quite a bit more bland than the Blue Jellyfish it currently shares it’s skin with. Granted, you did mention it would have a glowing effect. If that is the case then maybe seeing an animated model, or perhaps a video, of it would allow us to form a better opinion.

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Posted by: Aridia.3042

Aridia.3042

Rainbow Jellyfish needs more rainbow.

Like this:

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

does the new one glow or something?

I added an image for reference. It doesn’t really show it off in motion, but I’m not skilled enough to make an animated gif. I will say the new one is cooler looking IMO and does have a cool “glowy” membrane on its head.

What makes a “rainbow” jellyfish "rainbow is the rainbow like lights it emits. If the new one simply “glowy” in a monotonous color, then don’t even bother wasting time on aesthetic change. Because;

1) It’s an underwater pet, we can’t really display it in a town where everyone can see it.
2) I’m personally using my Shark and either the Armored Fish or my Bear underwater.
3) Why? Why change this instead of the Blue Jellyfish?

But if the aesthetic change is distinguishable like the Rainbow Phoenix in GW1, then yes, I would definitely like that.

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Posted by: Aveneo.2068

Aveneo.2068

This is the concept art of the Rainbow Jellyfish that was promised by ArenaNet to the people who unlocked it through their HoM. You might want to use that for guidelines on how it should have looked.

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Posted by: Nimmi.1650

Nimmi.1650

That’s some real fancy calligraphy you got going on there Jon. ‘New’ and ‘old’. I take it your tools of trade were MS Paint and a mouse! :D Anyways, I think the new one says ‘blue jellyfish’ more so than the old one does in terms of colours and design. I like the look of it though and I haven’t seen shiny glowing animations yet. So, I say yes I’m all for the change because I would rather the rainbow jelly model be unique.

And since we are on the subject of pets, I feel it is more important to mention that griffins, raptors and dolphins should really pets. Especially Dolphins. <3 (:

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Posted by: NemesiS.6749

NemesiS.6749

Jon must be trolling us, with all the problems the class have and he come here to talk about rainbow jellyfish. LOL

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

I have used my Rainbow Jellyfish from the moment I obtained it, and I have always felt a little disappointed that it wasn’t more rainbow-like as in the pictures in the Hall of Monuments calculator. Also, that there was no distinction between it and the Blue Jellyfish. If this new Rainbow Jellyfish does nothing but set itself a bit apart from the others, then yay!, but I would like it to live up to its name a bit more. Thank you for asking for our opinions. =)

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Posted by: Writetyper.1985

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Posted by: Doug.9628

Doug.9628

Lots of immature posters in this thread. Hope this change goes through

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Posted by: OMNIBUS.2913

OMNIBUS.2913

Ofc i like the change. Like others have said might as well change it since it looks the same as blue jellyfish. A change to either hawk/eagle would be nice too.

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Posted by: Bane.3127

Bane.3127

Doug, the main purpose of the thread is immature and insulting to the ranger community. I don’t recall any dev making a thread regarding the two similar bird pets with different names or about the white raven not having the correct ammount of vitality.

My point is, you don’t show up here posting some crap about an underwater pet skin that I will barely see (or never, this is underwater combat we’re talking about) when the whole subforum is full of complaints/buglists.

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Posted by: DiogoSilva.7089

DiogoSilva.7089

I can assume (…), but you know what happens when you assume.

The irony here only makes Jon’s post all the better.

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Posted by: Bailey.6892

Bailey.6892

i assume, you guys should fix the class itself first… but as you said… you know what happens when you assume…

But that’s hard and they haven’t had time to really work on the ranger class just since beta but what ever.

Seriously fix the kitten class first.

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Posted by: ThiBash.5634

ThiBash.5634

Jon

Post your thoughts on this internet forum thread and I will read them.

Jon

Let me say first that I really appreciate this. It may be a minor thing to some, but the fact that you go out and ask the players for their opinions instead of blindly chaging stuff is something that should be greatly commended. I really really like that you’re doing this.

As for the jellyfish, I like the way the current one looks. However, if you feel that the new one will look even better, than I’ll trust your word on it. So my vote goes to the second one.

If you can read this then it is proof that ArenaNet’s moderators just, kind and fair.

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Posted by: DiogoSilva.7089

DiogoSilva.7089

I don’t recall any dev making a thread regarding the two similar bird pets with different names or about the white raven not having the correct ammount of vitality.

That’s because no dev would ever spend their valuable time to create a thread solely about this.

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Posted by: EnemyCrusher.7324

EnemyCrusher.7324

I would love to see the rainbow jellyfish skin changed to not be identical to the blue jellyfish, the the new version in the image provided just looks…blue. Please make it live up to its name.

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Posted by: Bearzu Smash.5962

Bearzu Smash.5962

I can assume that they will be happy, but you know what happens when you assume.

Considering the thousands of posts and tens of thousands of page views regarding the actual problems this class has that have gone, for the most part, unanswered and seemingly disregarded except for a brief period where Robert Hrouda seemed to take some interest, it’s probably much safer to assume they won’t be.

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Posted by: EnemyCrusher.7324

EnemyCrusher.7324

i assume, you guys should fix the class itself first… but as you said… you know what happens when you assume…

How about someone reminds you how broken traits, pets, spirits, signet cooldowns and dungeon rangers are?

Yes, this is TOTALLY what the ranger needs.

Not fixing their horrid trait lines, not improving pet AI, not making utility skills actually bring some UTILITY in a team, no, what rangers really need is a fix for the rainbow freaking jellyfish texture.

RANGERS ARE SAVED

i assume, you guys should fix the class itself first… but as you said… you know what happens when you assume…

But that’s hard and they haven’t had time to really work on the ranger class just since beta but what ever.

Seriously fix the kitten class first.

Enough with the immature, off topic, negative comments. You are not helping.

This change probably takes one designer and one artist, which takes zero resources away from the balance team, so relax.

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