Guild Wars 2

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There you have it. It is excellent paired with any tank hybrid teammate. In team fights you will be sniping anyone that you have a disliking to. Plenty of stability.

Your counters will be any boon removal/ CC mix.

Try it out. Stay at range for as long as you can. Your axe 4 destroys anyone trying to run away or any dumb stationary target. Sword is only meant for finishing or running away.

D/P or S/D thief glances your way

Dead ranger

Except that has never happened to me…….. Been in over 150+ tpvp games with this build and thieves of any kind don’t have a chance. The damage just murders them.

The only reason anyone dies from a zerker thief is because of their own stupidity.

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

Except that has never happened to me…….. Been in over 150+ tpvp games with this build and thieves of any kind don’t have a chance. The damage just murders them.

The only reason anyone dies from a zerker thief is because of their own stupidity.

So how are you applying damage to a shadow arts D/P thief?

Your build also uses pet 30% speed on top of signet of the hunt. You are aware those speed effects don’t stack with each other for your pet, right? Why not critdmg bonus trait instead?

Barrage. rapid fire just before the stealth……… ummm staying out of blind fields and not being a kitten with my sword. keep in mind this isn’t really a 1v1 build. my raven usually tracks and kills the thief by itself.

its not hard to figure out what the thief will do in stealth or what a d/p thief will try.

You have to be a complete noob to be getting killed 100% of the time from a thief.

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

Barrage. rapid fire just before the stealth……… ummm staying out of blind fields and not being a kitten with my sword. keep in mind this isn’t really a 1v1 build. my raven usually tracks and kills the thief by itself.

its not hard to figure out what the thief will do in stealth or what a d/p thief will try.

You have to be a complete noob to be getting killed 100% of the time from a thief.

Ah, and the thief will just stand in your barrage, and will not double dodge through your rapid fire channel while in stealth?

What idiotic thieves are you fighting. It’s quite simple. At range they put down BP and blast once or twice in it with heartseeker, using stealth to close the distance.

When they’re in 900 range, it’s either queue backstab into a steal or shadow shot, both actions which close range and are invisible.

Let’s say he misses hi backstab and get only a 3k crit. Your berserker ranger best case scenario has 17k health.

What does he do? Oh, plop down another BP and restealth until he gets his backstab.

A thief can pretty much chain stealth whenever he wants until he gets his backstab. On a berk ranger, that’s a 5-7k backstab.

If he wants to make things quicker, a thief’s guild will suffice.

He’s got 3 shadowsteps while in stealth — steal, shadow shot, and ini regen signet. He regains initiative whenever he stealths. He cleanses conditions whenever he enters stealth and every 3 secs after that.

What rank do you play at, and which known thieves have you beat consistently?

you clearly haven’t looked at the complete build……. It seems you assume that the thief you are talking about can’t be beaten by anyone which means I can’t take you seriously.

I play at ranks 30 and up so I am clearly not messing with a bunch of r6 noobs.

Known thieves? Are you a pro or something? Its easy to say what a thief can do, but in actual combat so much can go wrong. You act as if this is turn-based.

I’m sorry but I was just trying to post a build that I have great success with.If all this build has to worry about is one measly little shadow thief then I think it pretty awesome. But honestly I can out dps a thief. Thieves have such a low health pool, but I don’t have to tell you that right?

BTW it seems like you think the Thief is OP. That is complete crap.

Thief isn’t OP, but that build looks like it could make me a plump sitting duck.

Don’t mind Zenith, he always posts like that.

Anyway, any other tips you can share? Any strategies you can share against some of the popular meta builds for other classes?

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

you clearly haven’t looked at the complete build……. It seems you assume that the thief you are talking about can’t be beaten by anyone which means I can’t take you seriously.

I play at ranks 30 and up so I am clearly not messing with a bunch of r6 noobs.

Known thieves? Are you a pro or something? Its easy to say what a thief can do, but in actual combat so much can go wrong. You act as if this is turn-based.

I’m sorry but I was just trying to post a build that I have great success with.If all this build has to worry about is one measly little shadow thief then I think it pretty awesome. But honestly I can out dps a thief. Thieves have such a low health pool, but I don’t have to tell you that right?

BTW it seems like you think the Thief is OP. That is complete crap.

The thief is beaten by engineers and phantasm mesmers and sometimes s/d eles. Builds that either have stealth and enough instant spike to counter them or enough cc and aoe condi to mitigate stealth.

Your build has neither.

I’m just wondering what makes your ranger special over a greatsword mesmer.

You are missing a crucial part…..player skill. This build is not really meant for 1v1 though in the right hands it can handle anything. This ranger build has CC , LB 4 and Axe 4 not to mention immobi with the spider.

“The thief is beaten by engineers and phantasm mesmers and sometimes s/d eles.” -Except I have seen necros, warriors , and guardians 1v1 thieves fine and win. There is no such thing as hard counters. Every profession has CC, condi , or spike. Depends on the build.

I would have to say that this ranger build would fit into enough spike damage plus CC. That is why this build can beat thieves.

Your statement might have been true in GW1 , but in GW2 any profession can beat any other profession based on player skill. If you can’t beat a thief of any kind with this build then you just aren’t that good at pvp.

There is no build that has a 100% win rate against another class. GW2’s mechanics don’t allow it.

Try the build before you judge it otherwise whatever you are saying means nothing to me.

Errr. Try this out sometime:
30/10/0/0/30, running with a GS/SB. Use dual canines.

This requires a good amount of timing to fully pull off, but let that BS thief go ahead and open combat. During his attack chains hit GS #4, and once that lands immediately hit GS 5 to land a stun as you are pet swapping so the dog can pull off a leap for a second knockdown. Once your GS 5 stuns, follow up with a maul (GS 2). By that time most thieves are panicking, so you can pop an F2 hit to either fear or immobilize him as he tries to get away

Played out correctly, this is capable of either dropping the thief if they’re full zerk, or making him think twice about trying for seconds.

Edit: Forgot to add in the bit about popping signet of the hunt as you maul for the 50% increase.

Note: I tend to stick to WvW, so the average quality of players isn’t nearly the same as that of tPvP.

ExpiredLifetime.1083:

Errr. Try this out sometime:
30/10/0/0/30, running with a GS/SB. Use dual canines.

This requires a good amount of timing to fully pull off, but let that BS thief go ahead and open combat. During his attack chains hit GS #4, and once that lands immediately hit GS 5 to land a stun as you are pet swapping so the dog can pull off a leap for a second knockdown. Once your GS 5 stuns, follow up with a maul (GS 2). By that time most thieves are panicking, so you can pop an F2 hit to either fear or immobilize him as he tries to get away

Played out correctly, this is capable of either dropping the thief if they’re full zerk, or making him think twice about trying for seconds.

Edit: Forgot to add in the bit about popping signet of the hunt as you maul for the 50% increase.

Note: I tend to stick to WvW, so the average quality of players isn’t nearly the same as that of tPvP.

Shadowstep/Infiltrator’s Strike Hilt Bash.

Initiative loss and cooldowns for thief……. dead thief. I played some more and still haven’t lost to ant thieves 1v1………

I guess I am just elite, or maybe I know what my build can and cannot do. The secret to winning 1v1’s is to be the aggressor.

Having said that the greatsword isn’t that good for spvp for a ranger. Dual leap pets does sound nice , but I like to have a ranged pet. A ranged pet doesn’t have to chase after mobile enemies. It can just sit and turret away. Also my bird’s blind attack does double hit and can do 2k damage spike.

The secret to beating a zerker thief with zerker ranger is,,,, simply dps when he dps. You have higher health pool , and your pet can disrupt anything.

Honestly zenith try the build or stop hounding it.