Guild Wars 2

What are your thoughts on this build? It’s an all-rounder, player-centric build which is tanky, yet deals a strong amount of damage.

/edit – My build has changed a lot throughout the course of this thread, look at my last build link to see the newest one.

Is this for PvE only? What is its intended purpose? I personally would swap the Devourer for Wolf, and TU for healing spring because you have a leap/blast on one weapon swap. If, however, you want to keep bleed pressure from pet you could also swap Devourer for Lynx and use Pet Prowess instead of Primal Reflexes for much greater damage.

To be frank with you, I can see many drawbacks of this build.

1st of all – you don’t specialize in anything. You have all bits and bobs, but you do NOT excel at anything. Moreover, your stats and abilities do NOT have synergy with each other. Also, your pets are held for passive-low&safe DPS (which is not bad – but you’ll miss the benefits of the real pets). Moreover, you do not bring anything besides passive autoattacks, which are lackluster in this build.

Problem no.1: Your presence is not required (maybe not even welcome) at most of scenarios. Anyone could do the proposed job or could fulfill the goal better than you.

Problem no.2: Your build includes most of mechanics that have absolutely no synergy with each other. If you went for this build because you like a specific feature – you should have orientated around a specific strength. You are wasting most of potential.

Problem no.3: You lack lots of things. 1st of all – your build is not tanky at all. And canNOT by any means be considered reliable. Most of your damage requires you to pin yourself to the target – where you are vulnerable. If you want to avoid – you stop 65% of your damage. Also – you are easily killed.

Problem no.4: Your traits are once again totally random. You have not even chosen your specialization – which makes you only a weak version of anyone else out there.

To sum it up: You do not deal enough damage, you are not tanky enough, you do not have enough utility or CC, you do not have enough mobility, you do not have enough evades or condi cleanse… But you have a tiny bit of all.
If you enjoy playing it in solo WvW – and it entertains you – go for it. This game is supposed to be fun, after all.
But this build is by no means competitive at all.

its a pretty decent spec imo

not bad mate

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBjYDbkQlCWrYxfFuWD0HUbPgAodOMt3Av/9kL9EGA-TxCBABGt/gWK/6TjAaKBh4CKUp6PS8gCA4IAknOEGOIA6ppIAACwO3Z+mv5bh7bh7oH9oH9oHthLchLchLcSBExyI-e

i’d redo it like this. SB is a good choice, but for raw damage (like you are doing) LB is better in every way. Feel free to take piercing arrows over Eagle Eye.

I changed the runes, because you got the warhorn, which gives decent duration of fury. You may have noticed i changed the traits around a little too. This is to give you more fury, and also an initial strike burst (100% crit on initial strike).

The sigils, you are better off with power stacking. There is a limit, when you get enough crit chance, it becomes counterproductive to your overall DPS production.

@Lethal Njection This build is for PvP

@Tragic Positive Ok, here’s my response

1) I have put points into Damage ( + crits ), Vitality and Toughness. If you’ve ever played MOBA Games, you will of heard of the term, Brusier, who is a tanky-dps.

2) PvP, not PvE where you can have Guardians tank the damage.

3) If I was a glasscannon, tanks can eat up my damage and deal possibly more back because of me lacking toughness.
If I was a tank, I would deal no damage, why not be a guardian?
But I’m a Brusier, I deal damage which is noticeable, and I am survivable.

4) All-rounder, I have the EmpathicBond to counter condi classes, and I have Soldier’s to counter DPS.

Summary) Thanks for the feedback, I do admit, it’s a new to me concept, and i’ll need to test it more for it to reach it’s full potential! Have a great day <3

@shadowpass Thanks bro <3

@Prysin Whoa, thanks for taking your time to make a build!

I’m caught up with the LB/SB

The LB does less sustained damage and more of bursty damage, which isn’t what I believe Ranger is for, correct me if i’m wrong

The SB does sustained damage ( quick aa’s ) and is great for general combat because most of the time, people won’t be 1k units away, and more in your face.

I’m not sure about sigils for my bow; air/fire? I can get the stacking ones on my Warhorn.

What are your thoughts on Devourers stacking up might very quickly from Rampage as One? Worth? Or is a jungle spider or something better generally?

For starters it’s Bruiser, not Brusier. And it’s not all that new of a concept.
Secondly if it’s for PvP why are you not using the PvP builder?

A Moment of Clarity build for WvW/PvE (since you used that builder) might be something like what you were going for. If you need more Condi removal just swap one of the Signets for SoR.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJAVRjEq0waFLGsw1agFhqdHcBbA7xdACAX7wBrawA-TVCFABspDQJlfYpEEgHAQhq/IwVAgm9HSTTwCHCASBUuyI-w

If you gave a better idea as to the focus of the build we could help you out a lot more. What game mode (PvP, WvW or PvE) will you be playing and what role? I know you said PvP, yet you used the PvE builder. Also, simply saying “Bruiser” and defining it as tanky DPS doesn’t say what you want out of the build. It describes the build, but describing the one you originally posted as tanky DPS is incorrect as has been pointed out. The traits are kind of all over the place.

Since you used the PvE builder, but said the build was for PvP I’m going to assume you meant WvW. In WvW you have your solo roamers, your small group (havoc) roamers, mid size skirmishes of 10-15 (includes GvG), or do you just wanna run with the blob and tag as much as possible? In the last case would you rather be running with the driver, mid-line, or back-line?

As for Might stacking during RaO goes I’d make sure you’ve got SB equipped and use a pet with a fast (1/4 sec) attack speed such as dogs, moas (extra Daze could be nice), drakes, or pigs. Devourers have a slow (1 sec) attack speed, but whether or not both barbs would count towards Might stacks I don’t know. I just built it with standard Drakehound/Wolf. Not sure how much emphasis you want to put on Might stacking during RaO if you don’t have might stacking elsewhere in the build.

Regarding LB vs SB they both have their place, but in a Bruiser type build where you’re presumably going to be in melee range (if not very close to it) SB may have an edge.

Hope this helps.

this is personal preference but would GS be better for a bruiser build than sword warhorn?

Sagramor.7395:

For starters it’s Bruiser, not Brusier. And it’s not all that new of a concept.
Secondly if it’s for PvP why are you not using the PvP builder?

A Moment of Clarity build for WvW/PvE (since you used that builder) might be something like what you were going for. If you need more Condi removal just swap one of the Signets for SoR.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJAVRjEq0waFLGsw1agFhqdHcBbA7xdACAX7wBrawA-TVCFABspDQJlfYpEEgHAQhq/IwVAgm9HSTTwCHCASBUuyI-w

If you gave a better idea as to the focus of the build we could help you out a lot more. What game mode (PvP, WvW or PvE) will you be playing and what role? I know you said PvP, yet you used the PvE builder. Also, simply saying “Bruiser” and defining it as tanky DPS doesn’t say what you want out of the build. It describes the build, but describing the one you originally posted as tanky DPS is incorrect as has been pointed out. The traits are kind of all over the place.

Since you used the PvE builder, but said the build was for PvP I’m going to assume you meant WvW. In WvW you have your solo roamers, your small group (havoc) roamers, mid size skirmishes of 10-15 (includes GvG), or do you just wanna run with the blob and tag as much as possible? In the last case would you rather be running with the driver, mid-line, or back-line?

As for Might stacking during RaO goes I’d make sure you’ve got SB equipped and use a pet with a fast (1/4 sec) attack speed such as dogs, moas (extra Daze could be nice), drakes, or pigs. Devourers have a slow (1 sec) attack speed, but whether or not both barbs would count towards Might stacks I don’t know. I just built it with standard Drakehound/Wolf. Not sure how much emphasis you want to put on Might stacking during RaO if you don’t have might stacking elsewhere in the build.

Regarding LB vs SB they both have their place, but in a Bruiser type build where you’re presumably going to be in melee range (if not very close to it) SB may have an edge.

Hope this helps.

My traits are still over the place, but I’ve specialised more.

The dogs might have a faster aa, but when vs players, they’ll be dodging and strafing a lot, so a ranged pet might do more aas in the long run, right?

I’m not sure about LB/SB, but doesn’t the LB outdps the SB because of RapidFire?

Is Read he Wind good?
Why is Signet of the Hunt so popular even if it doesn’t work in combat?
Signet of Stone or Wild?
Eagle Eye or Piercing Arrows?!

lel <3

Getting farther from Bruiser and closer to LB power ranger.

tankstager.1975:

this is personal preference but would GS be better for a bruiser build than sword warhorn?

Probably

Sagramor.7395:

Getting farther from Bruiser and closer to LB power ranger.

Yeap, my build is changing.

What about this?

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fNEQNBlYDbkQNUVwGsbYLW+r/Ku2rdg9gabA0At7hrdH4NwpshlQWA-T1CBABGt/gWK/6TjAaKBh4CIUp6PS8gCA4ICknOEGOIA6ppIAACwOHO+mv5bf7bf7oP3oP3oPnhLchLchLcSBExyI-w

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Ranger_-_Power_Roamer

There ya go.

Dragonfeu.4356:

Sagramor.7395:

Getting farther from Bruiser and closer to LB power ranger.

Yeap, my build is changing.

What about this?

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fNEQNBlYDbkQNUVwGsbYLW+r/Ku2rdg9gabA0At7hrdH4NwpshlQWA-T1CBABGt/gWK/6TjAaKBh4CIUp6PS8gCA4ICknOEGOIA6ppIAACwOHO+mv5bf7bf7oP3oP3oPnhLchLchLcSBExyI-w

Shortbow is a Condition weapon, it’s a very very bad idea for a Power build.

I’m guessing the wrong bow was selected in the builder.

SB can be used in a skirmisher type build as a power weapon though. Doubling up on air and fire sigils with omnom pies/ghosts. It can go either way.

Sagramor.7395:

I’m guessing the wrong bow was selected in the builder.

SB can be used in a skirmisher type build as a power weapon though. Doubling up on air and fire sigils with omnom pies/ghosts. It can go either way.

Yup, oops.

I’ve finished my build, thanks everyone!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNQQNBjYDbkQNU1wGsrYLW+r/Ku2rdg9gadAUAnd7e4a3BWkittenbYJkFA-T1CBABGt/gWK/6TjAaKBb4gAAxFQoS1fk4BFAwREIPdI6ppIAACwOHO+mv5bf7bf7oP3oP3oPnhLchLchLcSBYuyI-w