Ranger Build Questions PvE VS WvW

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Posted by: rkarcheologist.8953

rkarcheologist.8953

For PvE I currently am rolling Bow/Bow, and before you speak, yes I know these weapons don’t do the most damage but for PvE and my play style this works for me.

However, in WvW, unless my server is doing well in the section it starts with, I can’t do squat. Once I wonder out into the Eternal battle field I am screw because, inevitably I will be found by a thief and before I know it I am down and there is no thief in sight.

I should also mention that my Ranger is my main and I am trying to get map completion with. So I am not use to PvP combat or the inner workings of WvW. I am open to restating and changing weapons for WvW, but I would like to see first if there are changes I can make to my current build as it is the one I am most accustomed to.

This is my current build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQJATVjEVJ2FWCWo2Bi1DC1nA1Kkp3D0Tr2fyrm0K-e

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Posted by: Dean Calaway.9718

Dean Calaway.9718

You can’t roam around alone in WvW, even if you’re mapping.
After all, you have to get inside towers and keeps and there’s no way you’ll Di that alone.
So take it from someone that was spouse to start mapping the WvW last week for the 5TH time if it wasn’t so busy:

Go with the zerg.
Be patient, use map rotations for your advantage.

And bows will work if you map like that, make sure you stay in the back DPSing.
If you have some good friends that play melee classes team up and have him target who ever he’s fighting, that makes a killer combo.

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Posted by: rkarcheologist.8953

rkarcheologist.8953

You can’t roam around alone in WvW, even if you’re mapping.
After all, you have to get inside towers and keeps and there’s no way you’ll Di that alone.
So take it from someone that was spouse to start mapping the WvW last week for the 5TH time if it wasn’t so busy:

Go with the zerg.
Be patient, use map rotations for your advantage.

And bows will work if you map like that, make sure you stay in the back DPSing.
If you have some good friends that play melee classes team up and have him target who ever he’s fighting, that makes a killer combo.

I have never zerged in WvW. I imagine its just loading up and asking where people are, or is it best to see if there is a forum for my server?

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Posted by: oiseau.6481

oiseau.6481

Basically, just follow the blue point on the map, it may lead you to a group of people of your team. If they are more than one, just ask on the map channel witch one is zerg.
:)

A lot of people may be moving there, going attack or defence, start by just following them.

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Posted by: awge.3852

awge.3852

Your first challenge in WvW will be killing thieves as a ranger. To achieve such a feat there, at least against a thief that is more or less around your skill level, you need to change your build to be more robust. Not to mention that as a ranger who likes to use bows, you will likely want to participate in large scale battles.

I would recommend the following modifications:
1. WvW overall large scale fight build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQNAT8fjEVV2NWGWo2Bi1DCFoB1ewJzjpXh0fyKm0K-jgxAofB5EYR0YrtFRjVvgpLJiq9HFRrGA-e
2. WvW overall roaming build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQNAV8fjEVV2NWGWo2Bi1DBRoB1ewJzf+Xh0fyKi2K-jgBBofBCJEOPqIasVTFRjVJjIqWpEDA-e

Note how both keep very similar trait lines, this provides with high power, high condi damage and high toughness for survival. Main difference: the gear, which you will have to change on the fly. If you know you are roaming stick to the condition gear as it provides much higher survival chances (especially against thieves). Change to power build gear on the fly on large scale fights.

Side note:
So why is defeating thieves your first challenge? Simply put, if you cannot do this you will lack skill as a ranger in WvW and will be confined to the safety of playing in groups. Your world is doing bad and you are outmanned; scratch that, your world is winning but everyone is too far out in the map to reach within 5 minutes… it’s quite likely you will find more than a couple of enemies (if not thieves) roaming around. Either of these can be frustrating.

Anyways lots to say here, I hope you take what works for you from this comment, good luck!

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Posted by: felixdacat.3804

felixdacat.3804

You can’t roam around alone in WvW, even if you’re mapping.
After all, you have to get inside towers and keeps and there’s no way you’ll Di that alone.
So take it from someone that was spouse to start mapping the WvW last week for the 5TH time if it wasn’t so busy:

Go with the zerg.
Be patient, use map rotations for your advantage.

And bows will work if you map like that, make sure you stay in the back DPSing.
If you have some good friends that play melee classes team up and have him target who ever he’s fighting, that makes a killer combo.

I have never zerged in WvW. I imagine its just loading up and asking where people are, or is it best to see if there is a forum for my server?

Definitely search out a forum for your server, if they have one. Great way to network and see who’s doing what. When you load up one of the WvW maps, look for a commander icon… that’s a good way to see where a group of people may be on the map.

Also, as someone else stated, use map rotation to get to 100%… meaning, start on your home borderland this week. If your server is doing decently and holding down the home borderland, you can pop in and out of all the towers and keeps without much of a problem. Then do the same for your server’s corner of Eternal. Next week, if your server has changed colors (i.e. from blue this week to red next week) then do the same thing – borderland map completion is simply based on the colors, not which server is actually assigned to the color.

As to your build… you’re using signets but not Signet of the BM so I’m automatically confused. Entangle is nice when it works but also consider Rampage as One for the stability, fury and might stacking. Then again, if you’re a norn, consider the shape-shifting elites to speed you across the map. As for traits, I’d move to something like a 30/20/20/0/0 build… 20 points in Skirmishing gets you Quick Draw and fury on swap, 20 in WS gets protection on dodge and Oakheart Salve/Hide in Plain Sight. Plus, you’re going to want some survivability in WvW and 20 in WS is a good start. Add some PVT gear and you’re doing okay.

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Posted by: rogerwilko.6895

rogerwilko.6895

Hello,
What setup should one use in WvW if he is in a zerg? That is, how should one best:
– tag ppl
– have a few escape tools

Thx

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Posted by: Bambula.3649

Bambula.3649

Your first challenge in WvW will be killing thieves as a ranger. To achieve such a feat there, at least against a thief that is more or less around your skill level, you need to change your build to be more robust. Not to mention that as a ranger who likes to use bows, you will likely want to participate in large scale battles.

I would recommend the following modifications:
1. WvW overall large scale fight build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQNAT8fjEVV2NWGWo2Bi1DCFoB1ewJzjpXh0fyKm0K-jgxAofB5EYR0YrtFRjVvgpLJiq9HFRrGA-e
2. WvW overall roaming build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMMQNAV8fjEVV2NWGWo2Bi1DBRoB1ewJzf+Xh0fyKi2K-jgBBofBCJEOPqIasVTFRjVJjIqWpEDA-e

Note how both keep very similar trait lines, this provides with high power, high condi damage and high toughness for survival. Main difference: the gear, which you will have to change on the fly. If you know you are roaming stick to the condition gear as it provides much higher survival chances (especially against thieves). Change to power build gear on the fly on large scale fights.

Side note:
So why is defeating thieves your first challenge? Simply put, if you cannot do this you will lack skill as a ranger in WvW and will be confined to the safety of playing in groups. Your world is doing bad and you are outmanned; scratch that, your world is winning but everyone is too far out in the map to reach within 5 minutes… it’s quite likely you will find more than a couple of enemies (if not thieves) roaming around. Either of these can be frustrating.

Anyways lots to say here, I hope you take what works for you from this comment, good luck!

sorry but booth builds are kind of useless ><
first got to much def even for a zerg and the second, for what you got heal power with only hs?

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