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Posted by: Gotejjeken.1267

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I am not sure how many people this will help…but here goes. No one was doing quicksand survivor when I was playing this evening, so I mathematically figured it out to do it solo:

HP: 22405
Base Damage: 2688 HP/s (12% of total HP per sec)

6 Nature Magic (Natures Bounty, Enlargement, Nature’s Voice)
300 Healing Power

Regen:
913/s = Troll Unguent (10s)
173/s = Shout (16.25s)
320/s = Spirit (60s)
134/s = Fern Hound (10s)
82/s = Signet of Wild (Passive)

2688 dam/s – (All) = 1066 dam/s * 10s = 10660 dam
2688 dam/s – (Spirit + Shout + Signet) = 2113 dam/s * 5s = 10565 dam

= 21225 dam over 15s = 22405 HP – 21225 HP = 1180 HP left

Quicksand damage is always 12% HP/s no matter what—there were / are a few guides out there admonishing removing all armor that adds vitality, which is pointless, since the damage is a percentage.

Which means the above theoretically should work for any HP as long as one has 300 or more healing power and uses the associated skills/pet, as the quicksand damage will adjust to your HP, but the healing will remain constant.

Anyway, kinda fun.

(edited by Gotejjeken.1267)

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Posted by: Ryan.9387

Ryan.9387

Add in pet heal on f2 skills with fern hound and another dog. Extra 2-3k hp.

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Posted by: Seth.1308

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You wouldn’t get the Fern Hound regen since it doesn’t stack with the regen off of Natures Voice.

When I did it, I gave myself a minute worth of regen with natures voice / healing spring, swapped in Troll Ungent, with Signet, Healing Spirit, and Natural Healing.

Anyone know if Bark Skin makes a difference or not?

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Posted by: wizzard.1295

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I did it with only 4 in NM … with troll’s urgent and fern hound. Also, take the elite spirit too.
Also, had only 2 in BM traits.

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Posted by: Aleksander Suburb.4287

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The best way is to try it in a group. Water fields, finisher and group healing.

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Posted by: Zorby.8236

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I just want to put in the contrast of how easy this was on warrior. Defiant Stance → GG, no need to figure out heal values needed etc.

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Posted by: Khadez.4958

Khadez.4958

I just want to put in the contrast of how easy this was on warrior. Defiant Stance -> GG, no need to figure out heal values needed etc.

I would consider this as a bug/badly thought out mechanic. Ranger’s stone signet and “Protect me” didnt work there and I assume that other classes invulnerabilities dont work there either. So it is either a bug or a bad mechanic to leave one skill in game that totally breaks the challenge.

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Posted by: Cufufalating.8479

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All good advise for doing it solo, but if you’re still struggling just advertise in Map Chat to do it in a group because people are more than happy to do it with a ranger thanks to our spirit elite.

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Posted by: Belzebu.3912

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Quicksand damage is always 12% HP/s no matter what—there were / are a few guides out there admonishing removing all armor that adds vitality, which is pointless, since the damage is a percentage.

The damage being a percentage is the reason why vitality is bad there.
If you have 20k HP you’ll take 2400 damage, if you have 16k HP you’ll take 1920 damage, but in both cases you’ll be healed for the same amount so out heal the damage with lower HP is much easier.

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Posted by: Gotejjeken.1267

Gotejjeken.1267

Quicksand damage is always 12% HP/s no matter what—there were / are a few guides out there admonishing removing all armor that adds vitality, which is pointless, since the damage is a percentage.

The damage being a percentage is the reason why vitality is bad there.
If you have 20k HP you’ll take 2400 damage, if you have 16k HP you’ll take 1920 damage, but in both cases you’ll be healed for the same amount so out heal the damage with lower HP is much easier.

Yeah you are right; I think I partially caught (and contradicted) myself with the last paragraph of the OP…but that’s what I get for doing math tired.

As far as blast finishers go, I couldn’t get enough healing out of something like warhorn + healing spring…maybe because I am not specce’d for healing power all that much.

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Posted by: Ryan.9387

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Warhorn, sword 2, gs 3. 3 finishers in that healspring for 4.5k-5k.

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Posted by: jcbroe.4329

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I actually didn’t try that hard to do it. I just summoned the elite spirit next to the sand, and activated troll unguent when I hit around the 9-10k health range. Completed the challenge with 2k health to spare.

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Posted by: Viking Jorun.5413

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Warhorn, sword 2, gs 3. 3 finishers in that healspring for 4.5k-5k.

GS 3 is two finishers. The run is one part, and the leap is another, giving you twice the healing from it. A Lightning Reflexes from the center of your Healing Spring will position you to proc both leap finishers from Swoop. To add to the topic, I got this running Sword/Dagger+GS with Healing Spring, Lightning Reflexes, Signet of the Wild, Guard, Spirit of Nature, and Fern Hound as my pet.

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Posted by: Belzebu.3912

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You can also pop a mango pie, it cost like 35c?

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Posted by: Gotejjeken.1267

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You could, but as a downside, Mango Pie gives VIT.

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Posted by: shinreigari.7318

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Wow, i haven’t tried this with ranger or any other class, is it supposed to be a challenge? (honest question here, not sarcasm) :O I did the achievement with my necro, just popped a well of blood and stood in it, and when my hp got kinda low i deathshrouded. But i wasn’t even close to dying.