Ranger Role in WvW: Yak Slappers

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Posted by: Bredin.5368

Bredin.5368

So, I’ve been thinking about how small groups or roamers contribute to WvW, which is important because rangers excel in those roles.

Killing a yak on route to an enemy camp seems to net at least 3 points. Each camp releases about 6 yaks every 15 minutes. If you are by yourself and kill all those yaks, you will get 18 points for your realm during that time. This is more than taking and holding a tower, and just 7 points less than taking and holding a keep.

My understanding is that you get points per person tagging the yak. So if a small group of 3 people did this, you’d net 54 points for your realm—more than taking and holding stonemist! This is in addition to the added benefit of denying your enemy supplies (and the realm point for yaks reaching their destination?).

Of course, getting even more people to do this would yield even more realm points, but at some point it becomes counterproductive, since the zerg should be going for bigger objectives.

Any class can do this, but rangers are fast (they can keep up sustained speed), have very good range, and excel in small battles, making them ideally suited for this role.

So it seems that rangers can contribute greatly to WvW, even though they are not the most zerg friendly profession.

Thoughts?

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Posted by: zTales.4392

zTales.4392

You can also send your pet into a camp to kill the yak ’cause the other NPCs will ignore the pet. xD

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Posted by: Terkov.4138

Terkov.4138

Yak standing in camp doesn’t give points. Only the ones on the way do.

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Posted by: zTales.4392

zTales.4392

Yak standing in camp doesn’t give points. Only the ones on the way do.

Oh. .__.

Good to know!

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

Just take the whole stinkin camp. Can get it done solo now in less than 2 minutes.

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Posted by: Bredin.5368

Bredin.5368

Just take the whole stinkin camp. Can get it done solo now in less than 2 minutes.

Except that you can obtain MORE points by NOT taking the camp and farming yaks. Killing 4 yaks that have left an enemy camp nets you more than twice as many points as flipping the camp and holding it for the tick.

So, it seems not to take a camp unless you need the supplies. Better to deny the enemy supply by taking yaks (unless of course they need to go gather supplies to repair, etc).

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

Yep, my bad. After reading the original post again I realized it was about how to get the most XP.

Since I have zero interest in wxp..karma…xp etc, I will just take the camp instead and hope they only send a couple of people to retake it

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Posted by: Goldmember.4368

Goldmember.4368

Just take the whole stinkin camp. Can get it done solo now in less than 2 minutes.

Except that you can obtain MORE points by NOT taking the camp and farming yaks. Killing 4 yaks that have left an enemy camp nets you more than twice as many points as flipping the camp and holding it for the tick.

So, it seems not to take a camp unless you need the supplies. Better to deny the enemy supply by taking yaks (unless of course they need to go gather supplies to repair, etc).

I really like that idea. I used to solo flip and farm guys trying to get it back. But as as server benefit your approach is better. If you ever go up against Dragonbrand look for my ranger Gear Head.

So I wonder if multiple server defenders attack the yak do both servers get points or only the one with killing blow. A Condition build would def help secure your points if its the killing blow.

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Posted by: Terkov.4138

Terkov.4138

Yep, my bad. After reading the original post again I realized it was about how to get the most XP.

Since I have zero interest in wxp..karma…xp etc, I will just take the camp instead and hope they only send a couple of people to retake it

No, you misread it again. Killing dollies gives points to the server. Farming them is better than flipping camp if you go for points.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

Yep, my bad. After reading the original post again I realized it was about how to get the most XP.

Since I have zero interest in wxp..karma…xp etc, I will just take the camp instead and hope they only send a couple of people to retake it

No, you misread it again. Killing dollies gives points to the server. Farming them is better than flipping camp if you go for points.

The “etc” covered all other types of XP..points or whatever else keeps tally of some kind.

I have zero interest in any of that because frankly, it doesn’t mean squat. I’m looking for the fight…that maybe I can win once in a while.

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Posted by: Jakeism.8136

Jakeism.8136

Thieves are much more effective at this tbh. With my unlimited stealth build I can easily sneak past enemies, whether its a zerg or single player. And I can take a dolyak down in about 6sec.

Rangers would draw attention to themselves. First 1 person sees, then 2, then 3, etc. Remember you’re close to the enemies base.

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Posted by: slingblade.1437

slingblade.1437

Thieves are much more effective at this tbh. With my unlimited stealth build I can easily sneak past enemies, whether its a zerg or single player. And I can take a dolyak down in about 6sec.

Rangers would draw attention to themselves. First 1 person sees, then 2, then 3, etc. Remember you’re close to the enemies base.

Yep. A decent, determined thief is pretty much impossible to stop as a yak slapper. Ranger’s are good at it, but I wouldn’t say they’re the go-to class for it.

As far as whether to flip a camp or just kill yaks, I didn’t know about the difference in the points for one v. the other, but then, now that I think about it, there’s a whole list of questions you could ask yourself about the best tactic for the moment beyond just which one directly gives the most points.

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Posted by: Bredin.5368

Bredin.5368

Yup. Thieves are better simply because a good one can reset a fight/escape. Perhaps the “stealth” traps will change this. Certainly if you can counter the stealth factor, then ranger>thief.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

Forzani.2584

Agree about the thief. Both kill the yaks quickly and with ease. The big thing though is when I hear in world chat … Ranger killing Yaks at ____ …I head over to the area. If I hear thief killing Yaks I don’t even bother anymore cause I know even if I find him…good chance I will die…and even if I am winning, he will just vanish. Waste of time.

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Posted by: Absit.3064

Absit.3064

Something no one seemed to bring up – yeah, you may net more points by farming yaks, but by taking the camp you’re DENYING the other server points. Sometimes that’s more important.