Guild Wars 2

When I use this on my ranger in a zerg I nearly kill my self. No enemy spells or conditions touch me. I chalked it up to retaliation. I get on my Elementalist and aoe everything and never take damage from it. Why?

Retaliation is a rare boon all things considered. Perhaps they had it when you were on your ranger and didn’t when you were on your ele.

I’d agree with retaliation. Guardians can easily keep it up permanently in combat (if they build for it), mesmers, necros, engineers and warriors can get it too. Plus the barrage hits up to 60 times (assuming 5 target limit per hit), so that would be plenty of chances for retaliation damage.

I’m guessing that Barrage consists of a maximum of 60 little hits where each ‘retaliated’ hit would add up to a lot of damage done to you. Your elementalist AoE’s might consist of only a few big hits where you only suffer from a few ‘relatiated’ hits.

12×5=60 at 267 damage per hit (at level 80 with the base power of 916, and +1 damage for every 13.4 power above that) adds up to quite a bit of damage if all targets were affected by relatiation.

I used barrage on a group who guardian casted retal on and I took almost 13k damage from 1 barrage from retal…It really needs to be toned down.

It’s all part of the mechanics of the game- your one decent aoe skill can be dodged, reflected, miss, blocked, obstructed and retaliated, and to top it off your two main damage skills either require you to stand in one spot while the long animation occurs or takes so long to fire any decent class can avoid 50-90% of the damage.

Oh almost forgot, only hits a maximum of 5 people (and those 5 targets will change all the time as the arrows fall).

Welcome to the ranger class.

Yea barrage hits at a rate of 2 times per second and 3 times per second while hasted. So damage from retaliation can stack up really fast.

Dodges and other evades actually stop the retaliation damage during the actual dodge. So if the damage is coming too fast you can double dodge or use other evade skills to help cut down the damage.

Victory.2879:

Oh almost forgot, only hits a maximum of 5 people (and those 5 targets will change all the time as the arrows fall).

All skills only affect a maximum of 5 people.

Soo.. if ranger can’t use barrage, what should he do on wvwvw?

knbBlackTemplar.3059:

Soo.. if ranger can’t use barrage, what should he do on wvwvw?

Huh? He can still use it just fine. Just be observant with it. I use it all the time, and when I sense retaliation on me I just stop the Barrage and dodge-roll once or twice. Retaliation is a perfectly acceptable counter to a large, 10-second AoE. Every skill should have some sort of counter. —cough stealth cough--