Guild Wars 2

I need help; not sure if its just me but, I ’ve played at least 1000 games (solo que) with my ranger and it just seems like ranger cant keep up with any other profession in terms of damage or durability.

Is spirit/condi rangers the only viable option we have as rangers? I tried it, and its so boring to play because its a weak supportive role and is easily shut down (AoE). I currently play signet/RaO, seems to be most versatile.

I’ve noticed that rangers have a hard time holding points since most of our damage mitigation comes from kiting. Which doesn’t help for obvious reasons.

Maybe i just need help with strategies against certain foes.

For Example, this is usually how it goes with the following professions:
First wielding a bow…
Thieves: (Never played one so excuse the technicalities please.) Shadowstep attack -> blind (switch to greatsword and use block skill), -> greatsword kick misses (blind) -> thief barrage of jumpy attk thing (activating my signets to mitigate dmg), thief cloak-> waits for my buffs to die -> resumes jumpy attk thing (meanwhile i swing my sword hoping i evade, but attacks miss due to thief’s evade while attacking or more blinds) -> I eventually die because cant knock him back with point blank shot due to evade and blinds.

Mesmers: Simply either dazed or confused by the swarm of illusions
Engineers: Turrets and shields. Use bow? I get hit with my own arrows or gets blocked. Greatsword? Turrets spray all over me. Barrage? Not enough dmg to finish one turret.
Warriors: Everything? Dmg/Durability/Stuns

Please share your strategies or builds other than spirit or condition based.

Thank you.

Ranger has been nerfed considerably several time while other classes got buffed. We are currently at one accepted build which is hanging by a thread as far as viability goes.

But I think we got overtaken by celestial might stacking eles in our close point bunker role as well.

Hi, there are some very strong builds out there.
Try @DanSH build – http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV8YjEq0yaHL+rQ1agDhq9K8rBLrAw9Q0CV9FXdUF-TpBFwACuAAKOCALOIAVLDA4BAMf/BA
Tried it, its very strong. Straight 1v1 dueling build, best suited to take and gurd home base. Due to lack of mobility, it takes awhile to cross the map to enemy’s far base.
For more info – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/PvP-1v1-Power-Ranger-build/first#post4201035

You can also try my favorite spvp build -http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJARVjEq0uaFLGsw1agDhq9J0ujArA4dxusXdBTOA-TpBFwACOCAMeAAIuAAQLDA4QAMa/BA
The build offers tons of sustain Moderate damage and good mobilty. You will win most 1v1’s but it will take longer(compared to first build). With the mobilty boost(Soh+GS3) you can be everywhere fast, i like to run and switch between home base and enemy far base. points for 1v1 duels in home/far base: With the build you can realy stand your ground and not kite so much. put fire trap and GS3 on traget for aura(when its insdie base) sometimes bird will do the same. Keep-swap pet- F2 for might/vigor/heal. Swap for SB and dont be afraid to keep medium range, you can tkae it. Meny times your foe will just escape but who cares, you got base.
points for team fights – Keep in mind, meny of your support abilties are aoe – (your pet heal, your pet swap vigor, dwayna regen from heal etc). Fire trap always useful for the field combo – I stay in the midle like a gurdain boss, sometimes with GS4 while pet doing some work on enemy.

LughLongArm.5460:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV8YjEq0yaHL+rQ1agDhq9K8rBLrAw9Q0CV9FXdUF-TpBFwACuAAKOCALOIAVLDA4BAMf/BA

The bird summon had it’s health reduced 50% with the latest update.

Wonderful news, hate the kittenm thing. Its doest ruin te build completly….
Any way, sec option is still very viable…

Yes. Every time I see a ranger on the other team I think “free win”.

Fluffball.8307:

The bird summon had it’s health reduced 50% with the latest update.

Where did you get that information from?

Reddit some hours ago, undocummented change it seems.

It was stated by a dev in the PvP sub forum.

Eurantien.4632:

Yes. Every time I see a ranger on the other team I think “free win”.

And here I thought I was the only one lol.

jcbroe.4329:

Eurantien.4632:

Yes. Every time I see a ranger on the other team I think “free win”.

And here I thought I was the only one lol.

You are not the only one

Eggyokeo.9705:

jcbroe.4329:

Eurantien.4632:

Yes. Every time I see a ranger on the other team I think “free win”.

And here I thought I was the only one lol.

You are not the only one

I have that feeling whenever i see a warrior + ranger on other team. Free kills for sure.

When I see a ranger I rush far point to duel them. Usually they wind up being those players running whack builds like sotf traps.

I don’t know about you guys, but I have the most amazing trap build. It has incredible output and good survivability for the output it provides, and works in teamfights and home/far point situations.

Check it out, I know you’ll enjoy it: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqelUUpPrlYx+KseNCbBNqxI6N2xq85GEgkC-TJhHwAU2fgwDAAwJAAZZAA

Prysin.8542:

Eggyokeo.9705:

jcbroe.4329:

Eurantien.4632:

Yes. Every time I see a ranger on the other team I think “free win”.

And here I thought I was the only one lol.

You are not the only one

I have that feeling whenever i see a warrior + ranger on other team. Free kills for sure.

Warriors are absolutely free kills. i like seeing thief’s in the opposition because it’s funny watching them keel over and die when my pet dog farts.

Eggyokeo.9705:

Prysin.8542:

Eggyokeo.9705:

jcbroe.4329:

Eurantien.4632:

Yes. Every time I see a ranger on the other team I think “free win”.

And here I thought I was the only one lol.

You are not the only one

I have that feeling whenever i see a warrior + ranger on other team. Free kills for sure.

Warriors are absolutely free kills. i like seeing thief’s in the opposition because it’s funny watching them keel over and die when my pet dog farts.

glassbow – 3 to 4 autos and thief is a goner…. it never fails to amuse me that one

Prysin.8542:

Eggyokeo.9705:

Prysin.8542:

Eggyokeo.9705:

jcbroe.4329:

Eurantien.4632:

Yes. Every time I see a ranger on the other team I think “free win”.

And here I thought I was the only one lol.

You are not the only one

I have that feeling whenever i see a warrior + ranger on other team. Free kills for sure.

Warriors are absolutely free kills. i like seeing thief’s in the opposition because it’s funny watching them keel over and die when my pet dog farts.

glassbow – 3 to 4 autos and thief is a goner…. it never fails to amuse me that one

I do enjoy seeing a thief lying on the ground before they even make to the circle that your capping, the only problem is if you kill them to far away you have to leave the circle to go stomp them, I normally just continue auto attacking them.

yeah, either that or i just barrage them and tell pet to kill em while i focus on something else.

Glassbow – hard to play, but massive rewards.

Prysin.8542:

Glassbow – hard to play, but massive rewards.

it my not be the most effective build, but it is one of the most fun to play.

I love it when you come across an opposition glassbow ranger and you do the GS#4 salute to each other

Eggyokeo.9705:

Prysin.8542:

Glassbow – hard to play, but massive rewards.

it my not be the most effective build, but it is one of the most fun to play.

I love it when you come across an opposition glassbow ranger and you do the GS#4 salute to each other

unfortunately, that does not happen to me, as i prefer sword + axe offhand.

All i do is press Axe 5 and write a “thanks, but no thanks” on all incoming arrows before returning them to the sender.

Fluffball.8307:

LughLongArm.5460:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV8YjEq0yaHL+rQ1agDhq9K8rBLrAw9Q0CV9FXdUF-TpBFwACuAAKOCALOIAVLDA4BAMf/BA

The bird summon had it’s health reduced 50% with the latest update.

Link? I see no difference in the HP of the birds.

Items

Crafting—Huntsman:
Fixed the icon for Spiritwood Pistol Frame.
Fixed an issue that allowed players to spam transform effects by using aboveground transform tonics under water. These tonics can no longer be used under water.
Rune of the Privateer: Fixed a bug that caused the summoned bird to persist under water.
Updated the names of many items to be more specific to their weight class or item type.
Fixed a bug that prevented armorsmiths, leatherworkers, tailors, and jewelers from being able to craft Sheets of Ambrite.
Runes of the Privateer/Pirate: Parrot health reduced by 50%, normalizing it with similar summons.

its now in the patch notes

Ranger is definitely not bottom tier. Mesmer + Necro are bottom tier at the moment, but of course you will disagree because they are both “op”.

Benjamin.8237:

Ranger is definitely not bottom tier. Mesmer + Necro are bottom tier at the moment, but of course you will disagree because they are both “op”.

I don’t know, Lich Form carries bad players and Transform Moa is a win button. Just like Thieves Guild. Rangers are just too darn cool for a win button I guess.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Benjamin.8237:

Ranger is definitely not bottom tier. Mesmer + Necro are bottom tier at the moment, but of course you will disagree because they are both “op”.

I don’t know, Lich Form carries bad players and Transform Moa is a win button. Just like Thieves Guild. Rangers are just too darn cool for a win button I guess.

No one uses moa though, and you can escape really easily with it. Lich is a useful skill but you can just strip stability and reflect back at it.

Wait you mean pew pew ranger? Lol those guys are my favorite targets after turret engi I don’t know what thieves you guys have been fighting but the pew pew end up getting stomped from my side so far only one pew pew guys manage to kill me.

He had Sick ‘Em but it’s 40 sec CD

Benjamin.8237:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Benjamin.8237:

Ranger is definitely not bottom tier. Mesmer + Necro are bottom tier at the moment, but of course you will disagree because they are both “op”.

I don’t know, Lich Form carries bad players and Transform Moa is a win button. Just like Thieves Guild. Rangers are just too darn cool for a win button I guess.

No one uses moa though, and you can escape really easily with it. Lich is a useful skill but you can just strip stability and reflect back at it.

I realize this. 1v1 the skills are quite balanced. It’s when you get into a team fight where you have more important things to worry about that those abilities become a problem, with the exception of Thieves Guild. That one’s always been OP in any 1v1.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Benjamin.8237:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Benjamin.8237:

Ranger is definitely not bottom tier. Mesmer + Necro are bottom tier at the moment, but of course you will disagree because they are both “op”.

I don’t know, Lich Form carries bad players and Transform Moa is a win button. Just like Thieves Guild. Rangers are just too darn cool for a win button I guess.

No one uses moa though, and you can escape really easily with it. Lich is a useful skill but you can just strip stability and reflect back at it.

I realize this. 1v1 the skills are quite balanced. It’s when you get into a team fight where you have more important things to worry about that those abilities become a problem, with the exception of Thieves Guild. That one’s always been OP in any 1v1.

Not if you run Axe Axe power build. It just destroys thieves guild.

Moa is kinda, “SUPRISE!!” but you can infact kill the mesmer if you learn how to play as moa. I’m not quite there yet, but iv’e seen a few people get moa’d then turn around and just wreck the mesmer.

Prysin.8542:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Benjamin.8237:

Viking Jorun.5413:

Benjamin.8237:

Ranger is definitely not bottom tier. Mesmer + Necro are bottom tier at the moment, but of course you will disagree because they are both “op”.

I don’t know, Lich Form carries bad players and Transform Moa is a win button. Just like Thieves Guild. Rangers are just too darn cool for a win button I guess.

No one uses moa though, and you can escape really easily with it. Lich is a useful skill but you can just strip stability and reflect back at it.

I realize this. 1v1 the skills are quite balanced. It’s when you get into a team fight where you have more important things to worry about that those abilities become a problem, with the exception of Thieves Guild. That one’s always been OP in any 1v1.

Not if you run Axe Axe power build. It just destroys thieves guild.

Moa is kinda, “SUPRISE!!” but you can infact kill the mesmer if you learn how to play as moa. I’m not quite there yet, but iv’e seen a few people get moa’d then turn around and just wreck the mesmer.

In a teamfight where we had a phalanxe warrior I got moa’d and my 3 skill hit their thief for 14k.

Benjamin.8237:

Ranger is definitely not bottom tier. Mesmer + Necro are bottom tier at the moment, but of course you will disagree because they are both “op”.

Necro is very good, noscoc is a clear example of that.

Mesmer is also strong provided the player has a decent team to back them up. Plenty of top teams use them for their unique tools.

Ryan.9387:

Benjamin.8237:

Ranger is definitely not bottom tier. Mesmer + Necro are bottom tier at the moment, but of course you will disagree because they are both “op”.

Necro is very good, noscoc is a clear example of that.

Mesmer is also strong provided the player has a decent team to back them up. Plenty of top teams use them for their unique tools.

There is like 2 good mesmers and 2 good necros in the top teams. I’m assuming this post was directed at general pvp? Top Tier any class will work depending on the team composition and skill levels.

Regardless of top tier or not mesmers and necros have a lot more they bring to the table than a ranger does atm. Necro counters everything in the meta atm. War, engi, ele, guard are all < necro because of the skills they have, mainly corrupt boon and the amount of damage they can do through a fear chain. As for mesmer, they aren’t easy to play, neither is power ranger atm but that doesn’t mean they don’t work. When compared to ranger in PvP then ranger has no utility for a team regardless of tier, while mesmer brings portal and it’s elite which are both potentially huge utilities for a team.

As it stands:
Tier 1: Engi, Ele, War
Tier 2: Guard, Necro, Thief
Tier 3: Mesmer, Ranger

Stick to the rule that you don’t even look at bows and you can be okay.

I play my trapper build in tpvp sometimes (in another thread) and occasionaly, my BM hybrid in spvp for fun from time to time.

Waiting for better days.

As for Necros: They just don’t fit in meta. Sure, you may be bursted with basic condition rotation even by a newbie, but the truth is, after you learn basics of Necro gameplay, we have very little tricks in our sleeves in current meta. And we have to build for 1v1 just to survive. The entire Necromancer profession is based around ability timing and rotations.

Eurantien.4632:

Regardless of top tier or not mesmers and necros have a lot more they bring to the table than a ranger does atm. Necro counters everything in the meta atm. War, engi, ele, guard are all < necro because of the skills they have, mainly corrupt boon and the amount of damage they can do through a fear chain. As for mesmer, they aren’t easy to play, neither is power ranger atm but that doesn’t mean they don’t work. When compared to ranger in PvP then ranger has no utility for a team regardless of tier, while mesmer brings portal and it’s elite which are both potentially huge utilities for a team.

As it stands:
Tier 1: Engi, Ele, War
Tier 2: Guard, Necro, Thief
Tier 3: Mesmer, Ranger

Couldn’t agree more. There needs to be some insight from devs on what they plan to do regarding these kinds of issues. I just don’t see it happening anytime soon though no matter what is proposed and they could very well make things worse with each change. I hardly play the game anymore, only to get on a little bit and pve from time to time now when I’m really bored and have nothing else to do… I’ve pretty much given up top tier tpvp with my ranger a long time ago until they fix things and add some more depth to power builds and trap builds.

Im no expert in ranger but i think its because most rangers that i encounter just go bow and dont even change weapon.

I play a Condition RRR ranger and i dont have no problem 1v1 and sometimes 2v1 (depending on the 2 classes) but tPvP is a team effort game and i offer resistence to my party, regen, dps and condition area and i think that thats the point on PvP’ing.

Ranger’s are very viable in every mode but depends heavly in the player gameplay, if the the ranger just press 1 on bow than i think its doing wrong…but then again, i’m no expert on the matter.

Yes there is better classes that can do what we do but i think that the way of thinking about rangers are wrong, it can be a great addition to any team.