Guild Wars 2

I leveled a D/D condition thief first way back in September, and i decided to come back to the game for wintersday. I found that I was not as fond for the thief as i once was. Slowly ticking away my opponents health is not the way for me. I tried to do a Power and Precision D/D thief….but felt i wasn’t doing much…i was basically auto-attacking until i got them around to 50% to spam Heartseeker. I would Leaping Death Blossom if there were packs of mobs. A ton of people suggested i go Sword/Pistol, but sadly I really really wanted to use D/D. I’m a sucker for the look of my character, and D/D makes my thief look awesome.

In short, i hate condition damage, and my thief couldn’t supply my needs for power/precision. Looks prevented me from switching to a different set.

So enough about my thief. The question now is, “Which to level”?

I read Warrior can put out some massive damage if going power/precision build with a greatsword. However, most guides make you get a little toughness/vitality so you don’t get blown up because you have to stand next to the enemy to deal damage.

I read Ranger can put out tons of damage because they can just go full power/precision and not worry about toughness or vitality because they are ranged and stay away from their target. You can still get two or three shot, but that’s what dodging is for, and you can actually see it coming since your ranged. The problem i have with the ranger is I would want to use Longbow and Shortbow, and I have heard the shortbow is a bit condition heavy. So would power/precision would be bad for the for shortbow?

A lot of people have asked me why not do both? I would, but like i said before, I’m a stickler for how my character looks, and the set i like best for each one is the T3 Norn armor…and there is no way I’m going to be able to farm up enough for 2 sets. I think I’m probably going to buy enough gems to get 50g to even be able to get it.

What it really boils down to is…

which does more damage going into power/precision

a greatsword warrior that has to get a little tankiness to survive or a Longbow/Shortbow Ranger?

I prefer warrior because they have the best of both worlds. You can go Melee with Range and excel at both.

Ranger is a fun profession i admit, i run a full glass canon.

However, pets in wvwvw are somewhat useless. In dungeons they always die *making u very vulnerable) The ranger is plagued with the “obstructed” bug. Most of the time, if i chase a enemy or even standing still, my shots can be obstructed. The warrior’s rifle seems to be a lot more forgiven with that bug.

Ranger’s longbow is pretty decent for wvwvw, however, skill 1 is somewhat slow and easy to dodge (same for war’s bow)
Warriors has heavy armor, vs medium for Ranger.
Ranger has very poor condition removal
Melee wise, unless you run full spirits, warrior will eat a ranger for diner. Especially if you plan on running with a GS.

It;s just my opinion but go with Warrior. Better dps, lots of builds to try and have fun with. Can adapt to all situation and no pets to manage and less bugs (so far).

However, GS warrior, is not the only way to go :)
I suggest you go in the mist and fool around with both prof and try different builds, see what you like best.

Seod.7924:

I prefer warrior because they have the best of both worlds. You can go Melee with Range and excel at both.

Ranger is a fun profession i admit, i run a full glass canon.

However, pets in wvwvw are somewhat useless. In dungeons they always die *making u very vulnerable) The ranger is plagued with the “obstructed” bug. Most of the time, if i chase a enemy or even standing still, my shots can be obstructed. The warrior’s rifle seems to be a lot more forgiven with that bug.

Ranger’s longbow is pretty decent for wvwvw, however, skill 1 is somewhat slow and easy to dodge (same for war’s bow)
Warriors has heavy armor, vs medium for Ranger.
Ranger has very poor condition removal
Melee wise, unless you run full spirits, warrior will eat a ranger for diner. Especially if you plan on running with a GS.

It;s just my opinion but go with Warrior. Better dps, lots of builds to try and have fun with. Can adapt to all situation and no pets to manage and less bugs (so far).

However, GS warrior, is not the only way to go
I suggest you go in the mist and fool around with both prof and try different builds, see what you like best.

Eat us for dinner? Have you seen this guys videos?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/14j8nf/pain_inverter_volume_4_asura_melee_ranger_world/

Check out the earlier ones as well.

Seod.7924:

I prefer warrior because they have the best of both worlds. You can go Melee with Range and excel at both.

Ranger is a fun profession i admit, i run a full glass canon.

However, pets in wvwvw are somewhat useless. In dungeons they always die *making u very vulnerable) The ranger is plagued with the “obstructed” bug. Most of the time, if i chase a enemy or even standing still, my shots can be obstructed. The warrior’s rifle seems to be a lot more forgiven with that bug.

Ranger’s longbow is pretty decent for wvwvw, however, skill 1 is somewhat slow and easy to dodge (same for war’s bow)
Warriors has heavy armor, vs medium for Ranger.
Ranger has very poor condition removal
Melee wise, unless you run full spirits, warrior will eat a ranger for diner. Especially if you plan on running with a GS.

It;s just my opinion but go with Warrior. Better dps, lots of builds to try and have fun with. Can adapt to all situation and no pets to manage and less bugs (so far).

However, GS warrior, is not the only way to go
I suggest you go in the mist and fool around with both prof and try different builds, see what you like best.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. You obviously were not a very good ranger. Id suggest not listening to this guy. When you said rangers lack condition removals, that was it for me. Are you serious? Empathic bond? Signet of renewel? Healing spring? shake it off? Spirit of nature? Five is not enough? Two of those being PASSIVE?? Erm….okay.

Warrior is by and large the easiest class to play with a variety of builds. A Ranger won’t see the high damage that a Warrior can because they share DPS with their (often difficult to control) pets.

With that said, my ranger still remains my main because I really, really enjoy the playstyle. With a Short Bow/Sword+Dagger Condition/Toughness build, I feel very fluid in combat and feel strong enough to engage any profession 1v1 – including a Warrior!

It -will- come down to how you prefer to play. I’ve had many friends say the Warrior was very strong but also mediocre/repetitive in its gameplay. I would recommend trying both out; you should know by level 20 which playstyle you prefer.

Warrior is by and large the easiest class to play with a variety of builds. A Ranger won’t see the high damage that a Warrior can because they share DPS with their (often difficult to control) pets.

With that said, my ranger still remains my main because I really, really enjoy the playstyle. With a Short Bow/Sword+Dagger Condition/Toughness build, I feel very fluid in combat and feel strong enough to engage any profession 1v1 – including a Warrior!

It -will- come down to how you prefer to play. I’ve had many friends say the Warrior was very strong but also mediocre/repetitive in its gameplay. I would recommend trying both out; you should know by level 20 which playstyle you prefer.

deepwinter.9015:

Warrior is by and large the easiest class to play with a variety of builds. A Ranger won’t see the high damage that a Warrior can because they share DPS with their (often difficult to control) pets.

^ this

If you want high damage fast then glass cannon ranger is the way to go……I never go GC btw, cant do it.

I’ll try it one day…but for now rangers are too easy to kill.

You want more escapability? go warrior, in and out of combat like clock work.

And in the end its all about how you play . Ranger or warrior or whatever is just a tool for a player.

Personally i run 10/30/30/0/0 build for sPvP with short bow/axe+horn and kick kitten at it. Im doing way better than i was doing on my D/D ele ( not saying they are bad,they are very strong ) but it only proves that much depends on you as a player.

You may view warrior as a meele comabatant with option of ranged and ranger as ranged fighter with an option with meele but you can play both any way and be effective.

So in the end its up to you, what you enjoy more.

If you didn’t like auto-attacking with a thief, I’m not sure if you’ll like the ranger. The ranger is primarily an auto-attack bot when it comes to ranged attacks. Which I personally don’t mind, but it might be something to take into account.

Wolfgang Michael.8217:

Seod.7924:

I prefer warrior because they have the best of both worlds. You can go Melee with Range and excel at both.

Ranger is a fun profession i admit, i run a full glass canon.

However, pets in wvwvw are somewhat useless. In dungeons they always die *making u very vulnerable) The ranger is plagued with the “obstructed” bug. Most of the time, if i chase a enemy or even standing still, my shots can be obstructed. The warrior’s rifle seems to be a lot more forgiven with that bug.

Ranger’s longbow is pretty decent for wvwvw, however, skill 1 is somewhat slow and easy to dodge (same for war’s bow)
Warriors has heavy armor, vs medium for Ranger.
Ranger has very poor condition removal
Melee wise, unless you run full spirits, warrior will eat a ranger for diner. Especially if you plan on running with a GS.

It;s just my opinion but go with Warrior. Better dps, lots of builds to try and have fun with. Can adapt to all situation and no pets to manage and less bugs (so far).

However, GS warrior, is not the only way to go
I suggest you go in the mist and fool around with both prof and try different builds, see what you like best.

Eat us for dinner? Have you seen this guys videos?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/14j8nf/pain_inverter_volume_4_asura_melee_ranger_world/

Check out the earlier ones as well.

Yeah, pain inverter is definately a really good skill.

Too bad it’s an asura racial skill, and not a ranger skill.