Guild Wars 2

Been a while since I played. Still come back from time to time just to see if the game has gotten better yet for rangers. But, looking at threads, still seems we suck. So no point in playing.

Am I wrong?

Oh well….

It depends on who you ask.

If you ask a Ranger that wishes he could be a pet-less long-range sniper dealing massive damage safely from afar , then yes, Rangers still suck … and according to him pets sux, and LB sux, and …………………

On the other hand, if you ask a Ranger that plays to his professions strengths and has at least a decent knowledge of other classes abilities (and weaknesses) … then the answer will be, no, they do not “suck”.

Of course like each and every class, there are a few tweaks and changes the Ranger could really use, but that’s besides the point.

Well, since I have the Kudzu, then it’s still pointless to play. Thanks for the info…

I’ll check back in another 6 months or so.

Gercoa.7490:

Well, since I have the Kudzu, then it’s still pointless to play. Thanks for the info…

I’ll check back in another 6 months or so.

ahahahahahahaha ……

That was just too perfect.

Most of the forum posts should be ignored , as most are trolls or people that have not managed to get to grips with the class , or just don’t feel like putting in the effort a Ranger Requires to be played to its max potential, some see its easier just to change class to somthing that is simple more easy to manage than the many problems on this class type (not to say there are still many problems with all classes)
Bear/bows should be ignored its just bad rep for those great rangers that make use of there skills.

i’d suggest looking and reading the patch notes of recent all they have done is improved the rangers Balance , its no more powerful or weaker than it was when i started a year ago.

anet have punished those that don’t use pets making them seem weak.
as ranger is still that class that must utilize the pet to the unth most degree.
there is no comparison as the play style is just too different to other classes that can focus on one type of combat.

the changes where bugs , Ai pet f2 effectiveness is more Responsive (but spamming it don’t work thats like shouting at you own personal pet dog confusing the hell out of it)

rangers have Mass condi clenseing now if your a bunker / 30 in nature magic with the new traits.
its opened lines for power beastmasters . usings P,VH with PPT trinkets

all the bad rep Threads of recent are just Thankful wishes and hopes (that may and or may not happen)

if your view of a ranger is we still suck , it might just be a case of trying to catch up on what you’ve missed and play with some people that has experiance as a ranger class rather than those that seem to always compair it to a heavy class. rather compair it to the medium classes and not focus on the differences but the Strengths.

there will be people after this post that will say there are no Strengths as a ranger a jack of trades but some of these people are just battered by the bad rep of bad Rangers .
using skills at the wrong times or even using the wrong pet with a build
there are awsome rangers out there they just keep quite because of all this misunderstood acts about rolls of what classes can do what.

unlike other classes its job is not to be like other classes but somthing Unique that can support in any sitiuation not just the clear black and white events you see on the screen, condi clears ect being a ranger goes past the skills you see on the screen but into a sense of it takes more to be a ranger than it is , to just hold a bow in one hand and a pet in the other.

it seems there is still this unknowing sigma that won’t ever go away no matter how many amazing updates we get as rangers , but honestly most of the time i’ve seen in every game that involves a hunter/ranger class most people hate them because it’s ether interrupting there fight or they don’t do what they want them to do.

they are a class like a thief that has options outside of the stacking meta into a roll of there own that can’t be compaired through the end less QQ’s all leads to the same place , if you learn and get past all this bad sigma , breaking the habbits of using a bow as a main weapon manage your pets using the correct pets for different situations, pets that support your build in everyway not just because you’ll become a amazing ranger.

there is still no set roll for a ranger because they are for the skillful and for the casuals so it gets confusing which is which,

ignore all these threads honestly as i put above most of them are hope and dreams of other players that main a different class trying to make them more like a warroir, more like a guadian or a thief.

no class has a set roll but is best a such job/ that Skill is best for said job (its just that skill is used by said class making them seem more attractive as its used more often )

Me personaly i see a ranger as balanced i do fine the ranger is good but great in the hands of a skilled person, unlike warroirs can be good in the hands of anyone but also great in the hands of a skilled person too.
there just isn’t a skill floor for bad players on the ranger so that just Generates bad rep for the class and 80% of rangers treat them as archers when they are more like Aragorn from lord of the rings, using many forms of combat offering combat support / ranged warfare.

and as you put Oh well.. at then it seems you arn’t that bothered about the ranger class and are one of those min/maxer types you’d best roll something else.

Ision.3207:

Gercoa.7490:

Well, since I have the Kudzu, then it’s still pointless to play. Thanks for the info…

I’ll check back in another 6 months or so.

ahahahahahahaha ……

That was just too perfect.

, not even takening a moment to read properly seem his mind was already set even before i posted my advise xd

Read the Wind improved the reliability of the longbow. It’s basically 100% hit chance at any range. So, there won’t be anyone side-stepping your shots anymore. Pair it with Eagle Eye to get the most enjoyment out of it.

Get as much damage output as you can without dying.

This advise is strictly for WvW.

We are viable under certain conditions.
… But ye, we still suck.

There are still millions of occasions when you’re gonna feel like you never wanted to roll a Ranger.
The rest of them is just okay. You’d definitely be pleased with this class if you played this game alone. You’re just gonna be hated. Not because there is a reason for it. Just because you CAN be hated. Regardless of whether you play this class the right way or not.

^ can’t agree more there are still people around that have that attitude towards it , but the Ranger commiuty are always working towards a way to solve this unjust sigma there have been times where i have been praised for a god given well placed muddy terrain that managed to help a group of warroirs smash there way into a group of 5 or more if i used barrage too. (as those skills drain condi removals and some even mistakenly use there stun breaks to avoid static fields) this combo keep them in range for the kill.

even though this is the best traits of a what a ranger can do some people still have the sigma that we don’t help a party. its more of a active combat support / ranged warfare than the other side of just seeing numbers and boons.

since static fields and other types of impairing skills on different classes have longer cooldowns than most movement impairing skills a ranger class can offer.

I think it’s mostly the profession description that is given that upsets most people. It no way does it accurately describe it. We are not unparalleled with a bow (in fact, bows are pretty terrible in game period but the warriors and thief bow skills are far more useful than a ranger). So when you go into a profession expecting one thing and it ends up being something you totally didn’t expect/didn’t want to play it can be a bit disheartening. And for some reason the pet classes of games tends to attract the newer players than the others.

the bows those classes use are more utlity rather than to damage those bows don’t do multipul hits , and the htiefs cluster bomb maybe a blast but its required to play with the stealth machanics of the thief. the rangers bow is more of a damage focused weapon hence the lack of utlity the bow offers, but due to the traits and the ample cripple rangers provide this plays into the pet use making it easier for the pet to hit its target, they are simple different combat styles , no point in say this bow is more useful than that of other classes when their use of bows are used for different measures.

It’s purely personal preference…sorry if I didn’t state that. I find that I would rather have a constant blast finisher or to have my auto attack hit twice than the two that the ranger’s bow does. I am not one of those players who play the profession cause it has the word range in there…I find both bows clunky mechanically, with SB being less so. I’d take the mechanics of the other two professions any day to go with my ranger’s kitten nal.

i really don’t have any problems with it , if kiting left right jigging your firing to an moving target the arrows will miss as there trejectory doesn’t change/home , just like in real life when doing archery the more shots you hit on target the more you remember what it feels like to shoot that same location so the kiting kinda messes up the aiming of bows for the ranger class, fix i kite in the same direction as my target the arrows always hit and i do this during a rapid fire so nothing misses and close in towards my target ready for melee combat so much pressure within a few seconds and s/w is perfect for pressure and escape for longbow play , but the main purpose is to keep them slowed and prep them for a melee kill.

good tip for you new rangers.

Gercoa.7490:

Been a while since I played. Still come back from time to time just to see if the game has gotten better yet for rangers. But, looking at threads, still seems we suck. So no point in playing.

Am I wrong?

Oh well….

I think rangers are great. in pvp i always have warriors asking for my build. i am not the best but i get complements all the time. i run a con/regen..sword/warhorn and axe/torch. if your talking about bow rangers then i have no idea if there better

If you want to play a lb ranger…then no. Lb just does not do enough damage to down a good player. Worse the amount of defense you give up to have a functioning Longbow is absolutely not worth the paltry damage. Pets fail at CC and the Longbow has no snares of its own so you wind up mostly fighting with your GS.

Ision.3207:

Gercoa.7490:

Well, since I have the Kudzu, then it’s still pointless to play. Thanks for the info…

I’ll check back in another 6 months or so.

ahahahahahahaha ……

That was just too perfect.

Make a warrior and give him/her the Kudzu. It is account bound now.

pet less, high damage for long…… longer than melee range.

For long range high damage, ranger longbow is still your only choice.

I’ve been doing Longbow in sPvp and it’s very good when I can fire down on people, but balls when I have to deal with melee in any way. It’s not a great close range 1v1 combo, but as a support I can place pressure from a good distance.

Lorelei.3918:

If you want to play a lb ranger…then no. Lb just does not do enough damage to down a good player. Worse the amount of defense you give up to have a functioning Longbow is absolutely not worth the paltry damage. Pets fail at CC and the Longbow has no snares of its own so you wind up mostly fighting with your GS.

This might be true in spvp where you are fighting in an area the size of a closet, but longbow is pretty fantastic in WvW.

With all the buffs you can get from foods, guard leech, etc., the longbow becomes a nail driver and you can take down a lot of people without ever having to get in melee range.

Wait. Don’t go yet :O Theres still hope.

As much as I disagree with others (I think RTW shouldn’t be a GM trait, and Poison Master is bad), rangers aren’t too bad. There’s been some improvements and I think you should at least try it out again.

Since you’re longbow, I suggest you trying out the 6/0/2/6/0 build that was circulating around the forums when the april patch dropped. I hear its quite effective.

If you still don’t like the ranger, legendary and ascended gear are now account bound, you can easily switch to a warrior.

If you have to ask, for the love of all the gods – REROLL NOW!!!

Gercoa.7490:

Been a while since I played. Still come back from time to time just to see if the game has gotten better yet for rangers. But, looking at threads, still seems we suck. So no point in playing.

Am I wrong?

Oh well….

From what I’ve experienced, Ranger can succeed in every phase of the game (WvW, PvP, PvE) and has a good variety of builds to choose from. I mean, if you ask the strictly meta players, everything sucks outside of the 4 or 5 total builds (across all classes, no less) they deem “acceptable.” I wouldn’t worry about those complaints.

that baby stealing dingo.7216:

From what I’ve experienced, Ranger can succeed in every phase of the game (WvW, PvP, PvE) and has a good variety of builds to choose from. I mean, if you ask the strictly meta players, everything sucks outside of the 4 or 5 total builds (across all classes, no less) they deem “acceptable.” I wouldn’t worry about those complaints.

No… This one is totally not right. Power builds are just not made for rangers.
We are forced to stick to conditions, that vary from straight condi to spirits – or we are running BM bunkers.
For PvE – No one runs condition builds, so we are practically forced into Zerker builds. We do fine, but it’s definitely not like we can freely choose from many builds.

We are not in the very best position and i can’t agree that we are forced into condition build, i run a power build which is working properly.
I’m still amazed when i check some of the trait we can pick thru the list is how they set longer cooldown than on other classes, how we get less interesting ones or nerfed compared to the fav classes.. (exemple: 90cd for a shared anguish, which is cancelling a stun/knock dow/daze etc, also the trait doesnt work if the pet is dead. the condi cleaner not working if pet is dead, same for the utility skill, pet too far from you, not working, dead, same problem not working..)
Another problem is that Infact we all know how unfair it gets when it comes to the pet meta, how it never dodge attack and the low responsive f3 (that should grant him 1 or 2 sec invulnerability instead of a dodge), how we can’t see what condition it has in real time and i could mention a few others thing about the pet itself when it comes to granting buff (none of our pet gives aura while i think it should this would be something much more interesting to have than some pointless f2 feature already around.)
Although i still manage to beat any class in WvW or sPvP without using any of the popular build around, i made my own a long time ago reworked it to adapt trough the nerfs and come up with something worth it with my gameplay.
bow isnt the only weapon the ranger has, remember it.

Check this video out i made on solo WvW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrrZ_GJrTuA

Enjoy and keep faith in the ranger

Ision.3207:

Gercoa.7490:

Well, since I have the Kudzu, then it’s still pointless to play. Thanks for the info…

I’ll check back in another 6 months or so.

ahahahahahahaha ……

That was just too perfect.

“Playing a ranger to its strenght”

Which strengths exactly? Which ones which let us stand out from everyone else? I’m curious.

@OP
And don’t listen to Prysin. He can be sooo overly dramatic.

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Ision.3207:

Gercoa.7490:

Well, since I have the Kudzu, then it’s still pointless to play. Thanks for the info…

I’ll check back in another 6 months or so.

ahahahahahahaha ……

That was just too perfect.

“Playing a ranger to its strenght”

Which strengths exactly? Which ones which let us stand out from everyone else? I’m curious.

@OP
And don’t listen to Prysin. He can be sooo overly dramatic.

Ranger can be a tough stun locker, we can reflect projectiles, drop alot of immobilize, regen like a mofo.. although the lack of programing is real there is still plenty of thing to do

akallou.9704:

xXxOrcaxXx.9328:

Ision.3207:

Gercoa.7490:

Well, since I have the Kudzu, then it’s still pointless to play. Thanks for the info…

I’ll check back in another 6 months or so.

ahahahahahahaha ……

That was just too perfect.

“Playing a ranger to its strenght”

Which strengths exactly? Which ones which let us stand out from everyone else? I’m curious.

@OP
And don’t listen to Prysin. He can be sooo overly dramatic.

Ranger can be a tough stun locker, we can reflect projectiles, drop alot of immobilize, regen like a mofo.. although the lack of programing is real there is still plenty of thing to do

Immobilize? Where? Our Elite? Our Pets? There many classes who can do that way batter than we can do. Regarding reflections, guardian and mesmer say hi.
the only thing we can do better than others is providing unique buffs (because noone else has them). And some niche bunker builds for PvP. But any class is hard to deal with if played as bunker.

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akallou.9704:

xXxOrcaxXx.9328:

Ision.3207:

Gercoa.7490:

Well, since I have the Kudzu, then it’s still pointless to play. Thanks for the info…

I’ll check back in another 6 months or so.

ahahahahahahaha ……

That was just too perfect.

“Playing a ranger to its strenght”

Which strengths exactly? Which ones which let us stand out from everyone else? I’m curious.

@OP
And don’t listen to Prysin. He can be sooo overly dramatic.

Ranger can be a tough stun locker, we can reflect projectiles, drop alot of immobilize, regen like a mofo.. although the lack of programing is real there is still plenty of thing to do

Immobilize? Where? Our Elite? Our Pets? There many classes who can do that way batter than we can do. Regarding reflections, guardian and mesmer say hi.
the only thing we can do better than others is providing unique buffs (because noone else has them). And some niche bunker builds for PvP. But any class is hard to deal with if played as bunker.

I’m afraid you didnt dive too deep in the possible build, take for exemple 1 spider, one of them has a f2 immo + 1 auto immo in its 3rd attack, the dog can stun + immo on f2 we have the muddy terrain and the elite etangle just to name a few.
5# axe is one of the less known reflecter and works 90% of the time with a reflecting area as big as an elem focus and we have the extra dmg’ing and 8-10 vulnera on it.

I can use the pig which drop healing items such as the egg 2k hp + 6initiative for a thief on my team or the seed pod, 10sec water field + regen bound to it, not to forget about the 3 sec elexir which makes me invulnerable (say i combine this to protect me 6sec invu against dmg and the signet of rock thats another 6sec invu to dmg) a total of 15sec against pure dmg and 3 totally against everything.
Siamoth is also nice to use just as much as the boar (boar droping item that stuns)
note that all porcine stun the enemy with one of their attack..

If i was to play bunker i’d go for thief, signet of malice 3k armor d/d none does it better against many opponent imo

Ranger is the only class ingame with 15sec invul uptime..

akallou.9704:

Ranger is the only class ingame with 15sec invul uptime..

If your pet doesn’t die. And only if you’ve traited for the signets.
I highly doubt that the raflect we have is as big as the ele ones (Ele 400 units radius, ranger (traited) 150 units radius). Furthermore, the ele’s reflect lasts 6 seconds, it doesn’t require the ele to stand still and it hasn’t be traited to be somewhat effective.

Roots are neglectable in PvE. In PvP, they’ll mostlikely be cleansed immediately. Furthermore, using spiders locks you in using bunkertype builds. You can’t go straight out damage. That is one of many flaws. We can’t make straight damage setups and be as effective as other classes. Another flaw is that we have to trait for every aspect of our build to be effective. Try to protect your team in a dungeon with untraited axe 5. You not gonna succeed until you’ve told them to stack behind you.

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akallou.9704:

Ranger is the only class ingame with 15sec invul uptime..

If your pet doesn’t die. And only if you’ve traited for the signets.
I highly doubt that the raflect we have is as big as the ele ones (Ele 400 units radius, ranger (traited) 150 units radius). Furthermore, the ele’s reflect lasts 6 seconds, it doesn’t require the ele to stand still and it hasn’t be traited to be somewhat effective.

Roots are neglectable in PvE. In PvP, they’ll mostlikely be cleansed immediately. Furthermore, using spiders locks you in using bunkertype builds. You can’t go straight out damage. That is one of many flaws. We can’t make straight damage setups and be as effective as other classes. Another flaw is that we have to trait for every aspect of our build to be effective. Try to protect your team in a dungeon with untraited axe 5. You not gonna succeed until you’ve told them to stack behind you.

Right, so you say that the crybaby OP should not listen to me, but rather you tell him ranger sucks, is flawed, elite sucks, cannot do condition builds either….

I…. am confused now….

Gercoa.7490:

Been a while since I played. Still come back from time to time just to see if the game has gotten better yet for rangers. But, looking at threads, still seems we suck. So no point in playing.

Am I wrong?

Oh well….

Rangers have always been a class that requires more skill to master than other classes. You have one group of players that stand on a node and hit 111111111111111 without dodging or even moving sometimes. Those are the rangers that will tell you the class sucks, needs help etc. Those are the Rangers that will come to the forums and complain about being rolled by a Thief.

Then there are players who have more experience playing and mastering all the weapons and trait setups. They have taken there skills to the next level. They can 1v1 and 1vs2 most players in most situations with ease – and 0 in healing power.

With that being said, the Ranger class is still behind the other meta classes for most aspects of the game. We have a ways to go before we are considered to be on the level of Warriors/Mesmers etc.

Prysin.8542:

Right, so you say that the crybaby OP should not listen to me, but rather you tell him ranger sucks, is flawed, elite sucks, cannot do condition builds either….

I…. am confused now….

Telling someone to reroll just because he has a different (and reasonable) opinion is not a convincing method to deal with people. So no, if your only statement is to reroll already, he shouldn’t listen to you.

ItIsFinished.9462:

Gercoa.7490:

Been a while since I played. Still come back from time to time just to see if the game has gotten better yet for rangers. But, looking at threads, still seems we suck. So no point in playing.

Am I wrong?

Oh well….

Rangers have always been a class that requires more skill to master than other classes. You have one group of players that stand on a node and hit 111111111111111 without dodging or even moving sometimes. Those are the rangers that will tell you the class sucks, needs help etc. Those are the Rangers that will come to the forums and complain about being rolled by a Thief.

Then there are players who have more experience playing and mastering all the weapons and trait setups. They have taken there skills to the next level. They can 1v1 and 1vs2 most players in most situations with ease – and 0 in healing power.

With that being said, the Ranger class is still behind the other meta classes for most aspects of the game. We have a ways to go before we are considered to be on the level of Warriors/Mesmers etc.

LOL, such great news to hear someone saying ranger has high skill cap.
Ranger is my first character and the longest playing character, and I know it’s the most automatic classes out there lol.

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Prysin.8542:

Right, so you say that the crybaby OP should not listen to me, but rather you tell him ranger sucks, is flawed, elite sucks, cannot do condition builds either….

I…. am confused now….

Telling someone to reroll just because he has a different (and reasonable) opinion is not a convincing method to deal with people. So no, if your only statement is to reroll already, he shouldn’t listen to you.

right so, someone who are convinced that the class he plays sucks and is so insecure about his own choice that he has to ask the most skeptical and cynical part of the public if he did the right thing, well, REROLL NOW!!!

If you are too insecure to even stick by your own choice, you should just quit.

To sum it up :

If you like being a condition tank, it’s for you

If not, then it’s the same

Prysin.8542:

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akallou.9704:

Ranger is the only class ingame with 15sec invul uptime..

If your pet doesn’t die. And only if you’ve traited for the signets.
I highly doubt that the raflect we have is as big as the ele ones (Ele 400 units radius, ranger (traited) 150 units radius). Furthermore, the ele’s reflect lasts 6 seconds, it doesn’t require the ele to stand still and it hasn’t be traited to be somewhat effective.

Roots are neglectable in PvE. In PvP, they’ll mostlikely be cleansed immediately. Furthermore, using spiders locks you in using bunkertype builds. You can’t go straight out damage. That is one of many flaws. We can’t make straight damage setups and be as effective as other classes. Another flaw is that we have to trait for every aspect of our build to be effective. Try to protect your team in a dungeon with untraited axe 5. You not gonna succeed until you’ve told them to stack behind you.

Right, so you say that the crybaby OP should not listen to me, but rather you tell him ranger sucks, is flawed, elite sucks, cannot do condition builds either….

I…. am confused now….

crybaby OP? are you like 5 years old? please stop trolling the forums. Your posts are now unvalidated.

Casey.9687:

Prysin.8542:

xXxOrcaxXx.9328:

akallou.9704:

Ranger is the only class ingame with 15sec invul uptime..

If your pet doesn’t die. And only if you’ve traited for the signets.
I highly doubt that the raflect we have is as big as the ele ones (Ele 400 units radius, ranger (traited) 150 units radius). Furthermore, the ele’s reflect lasts 6 seconds, it doesn’t require the ele to stand still and it hasn’t be traited to be somewhat effective.

Roots are neglectable in PvE. In PvP, they’ll mostlikely be cleansed immediately. Furthermore, using spiders locks you in using bunkertype builds. You can’t go straight out damage. That is one of many flaws. We can’t make straight damage setups and be as effective as other classes. Another flaw is that we have to trait for every aspect of our build to be effective. Try to protect your team in a dungeon with untraited axe 5. You not gonna succeed until you’ve told them to stack behind you.

Right, so you say that the crybaby OP should not listen to me, but rather you tell him ranger sucks, is flawed, elite sucks, cannot do condition builds either….

I…. am confused now….

crybaby OP? are you like 5 years old? please stop trolling the forums. Your posts are now unvalidated.

And who are you to validate my, or anyone else’s opinion for that matter?

Tragic Positive.9356:

that baby stealing dingo.7216:

From what I’ve experienced, Ranger can succeed in every phase of the game (WvW, PvP, PvE) and has a good variety of builds to choose from. I mean, if you ask the strictly meta players, everything sucks outside of the 4 or 5 total builds (across all classes, no less) they deem “acceptable.” I wouldn’t worry about those complaints.

No… This one is totally not right. Power builds are just not made for rangers.
We are forced to stick to conditions, that vary from straight condi to spirits – or we are running BM bunkers.
For PvE – No one runs condition builds, so we are practically forced into Zerker builds. We do fine, but it’s definitely not like we can freely choose from many builds.

i run a condition build ranger in pve this isnt me but proof con works just fine in pve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZH42X_doMc

trunks.5249:

Tragic Positive.9356:

that baby stealing dingo.7216:

From what I’ve experienced, Ranger can succeed in every phase of the game (WvW, PvP, PvE) and has a good variety of builds to choose from. I mean, if you ask the strictly meta players, everything sucks outside of the 4 or 5 total builds (across all classes, no less) they deem “acceptable.” I wouldn’t worry about those complaints.

No… This one is totally not right. Power builds are just not made for rangers.
We are forced to stick to conditions, that vary from straight condi to spirits – or we are running BM bunkers.
For PvE – No one runs condition builds, so we are practically forced into Zerker builds. We do fine, but it’s definitely not like we can freely choose from many builds.

i run a condition build ranger in pve this isnt me but proof con works just fine in pve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZH42X_doMc

We have never sucked in PvE…

In WvW, that’s where we really suck. Horridly. Compared to my PvE self, my WvW self is a shadow.

atheria.2837:

trunks.5249:

Tragic Positive.9356:

that baby stealing dingo.7216:

From what I’ve experienced, Ranger can succeed in every phase of the game (WvW, PvP, PvE) and has a good variety of builds to choose from. I mean, if you ask the strictly meta players, everything sucks outside of the 4 or 5 total builds (across all classes, no less) they deem “acceptable.” I wouldn’t worry about those complaints.

No… This one is totally not right. Power builds are just not made for rangers.
We are forced to stick to conditions, that vary from straight condi to spirits – or we are running BM bunkers.
For PvE – No one runs condition builds, so we are practically forced into Zerker builds. We do fine, but it’s definitely not like we can freely choose from many builds.

i run a condition build ranger in pve this isnt me but proof con works just fine in pve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZH42X_doMc

We have never sucked in PvE…

In WvW, that’s where we really suck. Horridly. Compared to my PvE self, my WvW self is a shadow.

thats so not true what so ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWj8G7XU-YI and yes it still works very well i have that build has well doesn’t disappoint.. there has been a few updates to the build to just look up RRR ranger in forums and here is another guy hes pretty good has well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGuzYBmFd5E&index=2&list=FLrpko4kJ8UVyW32MGUiei1A if you say we still suck at WvW after watching you then you should play another class

These videos are BS. Duels only, versus who the hell knows what kind of nabs he bothered long minutes to fight with.
STOP WITH THEM, the whole URL is a spam.

atheria.2837:

We have never sucked in PvE…

This isn’t really true, rangers were pretty much useless to groups before they buffed our some of our traits (which might have been the same patch pets were nerfed). Spotter used to be 70 precision and Vigorous Spirits used to be a master level trait that did not include the 100% health increase.

I remember the “meta” PvE spec used to be some BM spec, i think it was 30/25/0/0/15?

RoyalPredator.9163:

These videos are BS. Duels only, versus who the hell knows what kind of nabs he bothered long minutes to fight with.
STOP WITH THEM, the whole URL is a spam.

i run this build to be honest i am glad you thing the videos and build are BS less rangers for me to worry about

trunks.5249:

RoyalPredator.9163:

These videos are BS. Duels only, versus who the hell knows what kind of nabs he bothered long minutes to fight with.
STOP WITH THEM, the whole URL is a spam.

i run this build to be honest i am glad you thing the videos and build are BS less rangers for me to worry about

1. That first video is a demonstration of how much regen rangers can potentially have. It is NOT proof that it works in PvE.
2. Faux is known for WvW roaming builds. His builds aren’t designed for pve.
3. As much as I like Faux, his stuff is outdated and he hasn’t posted in the ranger forum for months now. His videos and builds should be treated as reference, not complete guides on how to build your ranger.

Can’t comment on pve. In pvp; however, I think rangers are in the best spot they’ve ever been in with the recent patch… Pet bug fixes, rune/ sigil changes and traits have made build diversity much more robust. Traps, rtw/ sotf, bunker bm, bleed, perma chill, spirit (don’t play this, just don’t) and many more are all build set ups that can be successful in pvp.

Coming from mainly playing an engi (very small player population). The ranger population, is very large, so the odds for a “bad” player to pop up and whine increases. This leads to a skewed perception of what the ranger is capable of in my opinion.

And just my 2c…. rangers are very good at immob, and cc in general (malicious training is so underrated)

If we could control when the cc goes off then i might agree. We can’t and compared to any engineer with a rifle, let alone kits, our cc is a joke.
f2 works, 4 or so seconds to cast , but it starts when pressed now lol.
The bottom line with rangers is that they are , at best, mediocre, in all roles.
There isn’t any pvp role where you woudn’t be better off with another proff.
Sad but true

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Ision.3207:

Gercoa.7490:

Well, since I have the Kudzu, then it’s still pointless to play. Thanks for the info…

I’ll check back in another 6 months or so.

ahahahahahahaha ……

That was just too perfect.

“Playing a ranger to its strenght”

Which strengths exactly? Which ones which let us stand out from everyone else? I’m curious.

@OP
And don’t listen to Prysin. He can be sooo overly dramatic.

Glass teefs fall down infront of me at 900 range…
LB#4 or Auto Attack, right before they heal/stealth Sic’Em, volley, by this time they’re about 15%-5% HP or down if full glass, if they shadow refuge than barrage. During this you have to keep your pet on him.

I don’t know what the biggest complaints are. I have played since Headstart and my first was Guard. I started in PvE, than WvW and PvP, than I made a Warrior, than Necro, Teef, Mesmer, Engi, now I made a Ranger. And it’s glass beserker, since I am very well oriented in 1v1 PvP I can play glass safely maybe. I can back line in WvW without getting downed, and 1v1 any class (although I only loose to mesmers) I know when it’s important to kite, use my pet’s skills, heal for myself and my pet, escape, CC, etc. I build and spec for 1v1 though, but the range AoE and attacks are added bonuses IMO for WvW especially. I use LB and GS, I DPS at range, and know when to escape with GS.

Prysin.8542:

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Prysin.8542:

Right, so you say that the crybaby OP should not listen to me, but rather you tell him ranger sucks, is flawed, elite sucks, cannot do condition builds either….

I…. am confused now….

Telling someone to reroll just because he has a different (and reasonable) opinion is not a convincing method to deal with people. So no, if your only statement is to reroll already, he shouldn’t listen to you.

right so, someone who are convinced that the class he plays sucks and is so insecure about his own choice that he has to ask the most skeptical and cynical part of the public if he did the right thing, well, REROLL NOW!!!

If you are too insecure to even stick by your own choice, you should just quit.

If half the weapons the ranger has are useless (or atleast not on par with counterparts from other classes), than yes, it’s his good right to be disappointed. Just becuase you enjoy all that inflexible niche builds, than go ahead, have a nice day. But if someone claims that the archer role of the ranger should be on par (and the ranger is the archer of GW2) with the rest of the game, than don’t be a kitten and call him bad.

Littlefeather.8623:

xXxOrcaxXx.9328:

Ision.3207:

Gercoa.7490:

Well, since I have the Kudzu, then it’s still pointless to play. Thanks for the info…

I’ll check back in another 6 months or so.

ahahahahahahaha ……

That was just too perfect.

“Playing a ranger to its strenght”

Which strengths exactly? Which ones which let us stand out from everyone else? I’m curious.

@OP
And don’t listen to Prysin. He can be sooo overly dramatic.

Glass teefs fall down infront of me at 900 range…
LB#4 or Auto Attack, right before they heal/stealth Sic’Em, volley, by this time they’re about 15%-5% HP or down if full glass, if they shadow refuge than barrage. During this you have to keep your pet on him.

Yeah thieves do… But warriors won’t. Well played guardians won’t. Most of the mesmers won’t. Engies most likely won’t. Non-zerker ele won’t. Necros take a kittenin long time to kill. Just because you can beat one single build doesn’t mean it’s good.