Guild Wars 2

One duel, average players.I dont find good 1v1s often on eb so when i do and remember to record i can post. Post april 30 patch i always used shortbow before but i really like the longbow now and only util i use here is grasping vines lol.

EDIT: its not a bm bunker regen build o.omg

some mistakes on my part were
*forgetting to use elite
*using signet of stone by accident(wasnt traited for it)
*didn’t tell pet to attack in begin of fight(lost out on some dps)

throw away fun clip 1min -transformesmer

Triple posted, was lagging respond on this one thanks.

Nice fight against the thief. When they refuge, if you have the wolf, run to the middle of it with your wolf and fear them out. If you force them out of it before it ends, they’ll automatically unstealth.

Interesting to watch One this I might recommend is when fighting thieves, it helps a lot if your pet is on aggresive stance. They will instantly re-find thieves when they unstealth and it makes it easier to track where they have gone. Would have avoided them res’ing the first time. Good job though ^^

Sebrent.3625:

Nice fight against the thief. When they refuge, if you have the wolf, run to the middle of it with your wolf and fear them out. If you force them out of it before it ends, they’ll automatically unstealth.

good tip

Cufufalating.8479:

Interesting to watch One this I might recommend is when fighting thieves, it helps a lot if your pet is on aggresive stance. They will instantly re-find thieves when they unstealth and it makes it easier to track where they have gone. Would have avoided them res’ing the first time. Good job though ^^

also good tip, i have it on gaurd for running around and i didnt plan on getting a good duel on eb map. but for other rangers this is good tip if you duel someone

Cufufalating.8479:

Interesting to watch One this I might recommend is when fighting thieves, it helps a lot if your pet is on aggresive stance. They will instantly re-find thieves when they unstealth and it makes it easier to track where they have gone. Would have avoided them res’ing the first time. Good job though ^^

Actually, if you have them on aggresive stance and you happen to attack something else when they stealth, your pet will switch to attack what you hit. So if the thief stealths and you hit rapid shot too late (a nice longbow skill that will continue to track a thief while in stealth) and you end up autotargeting (if you have it enabled) a Moa and hit the Moa with rapid shot instead, your pet will go after the Moa.

You want to put your pet on passive stance and tell it to attack the thief. This is when the pet will automatically re-engage the thief everytime they come out of stealth. Regardless of what you happen to be attacking. So you can use the pet to keep a thief on the defensive (somewhat) while you attack something else.

This is particularly useful against mesmers. While you will find yourself attacking one of the mirrors instead, your pet is not fooled and will go after the player. I only wish there was a key bind to target your pet’s target.

I usually used dogs for their knockdowns, fears, and cripples. However, last night I played with drakes. For some reason, it seemed to work better. The AOE F2 skills and tail spin put a serious hurting on them even when they stealthed. Dogs seemed to still be buggy and if they move out of range, the knockdown misses.

Deamhan.9538:

Cufufalating.8479:

Interesting to watch One this I might recommend is when fighting thieves, it helps a lot if your pet is on aggresive stance. They will instantly re-find thieves when they unstealth and it makes it easier to track where they have gone. Would have avoided them res’ing the first time. Good job though ^^

Actually, if you have them on aggresive stance and you happen to attack something else when they stealth, your pet will switch to attack what you hit. So if the thief stealths and you hit rapid shot too late (a nice longbow skill that will continue to track a thief while in stealth) and you end up autotargeting (if you have it enabled) a Moa and hit the Moa with rapid shot instead, your pet will go after the Moa.

You want to put your pet on passive stance and tell it to attack the thief. This is when the pet will automatically re-engage the thief everytime they come out of stealth. Regardless of what you happen to be attacking. So you can use the pet to keep a thief on the defensive (somewhat) while you attack something else.

This is particularly useful against mesmers. While you will find yourself attacking one of the mirrors instead, your pet is not fooled and will go after the player. I only wish there was a key bind to target your pet’s target.

I wouldnt know, I dont use auto-targetting^^ Its true if an random NPC is attacking me as well (say a wolf) that my pet will go attack the NPC when the thief cloaks, but will immediately go back to the thief when they uncloak as long as you havent begun autoattacking a new target (which for me requires me to double click them).

Guess it just depends how your controls are set up and how you like to control your pet. The point is pets can be used to track thieves and, as you mentioned, mesmers.

build for regen and never worry about anything other than a mesmer again.

Ljiona.9142:

I usually used dogs for their knockdowns, fears, and cripples. However, last night I played with drakes. For some reason, it seemed to work better. The AOE F2 skills and tail spin put a serious hurting on them even when they stealthed. Dogs seemed to still be buggy and if they move out of range, the knockdown misses.

What drakes were you using?

Cufufalating.8479:

Deamhan.9538:

Cufufalating.8479:

Interesting to watch One this I might recommend is when fighting thieves, it helps a lot if your pet is on aggresive stance. They will instantly re-find thieves when they unstealth and it makes it easier to track where they have gone. Would have avoided them res’ing the first time. Good job though ^^

Actually, if you have them on aggresive stance and you happen to attack something else when they stealth, your pet will switch to attack what you hit. So if the thief stealths and you hit rapid shot too late (a nice longbow skill that will continue to track a thief while in stealth) and you end up autotargeting (if you have it enabled) a Moa and hit the Moa with rapid shot instead, your pet will go after the Moa.

You want to put your pet on passive stance and tell it to attack the thief. This is when the pet will automatically re-engage the thief everytime they come out of stealth. Regardless of what you happen to be attacking. So you can use the pet to keep a thief on the defensive (somewhat) while you attack something else.

This is particularly useful against mesmers. While you will find yourself attacking one of the mirrors instead, your pet is not fooled and will go after the player. I only wish there was a key bind to target your pet’s target.

I wouldnt know, I dont use auto-targetting^^ Its true if an random NPC is attacking me as well (say a wolf) that my pet will go attack the NPC when the thief cloaks, but will immediately go back to the thief when they uncloak as long as you havent begun autoattacking a new target (which for me requires me to double click them).

Guess it just depends how your controls are set up and how you like to control your pet. The point is pets can be used to track thieves and, as you mentioned, mesmers.

Now we just need to get the word out. Put those thieves on the defensive.lol.

Ok guys, here’s how it works.

If you lock your pet on a target, let’s say a thief, by using F1, your pet will attack that target for as long as possible, no matter what you are doing/attacking, passive or aggresive mode makes no difference.

If the thief enters stealth, and you attack another target, the pet will also attack that target (if set to aggresive) UNTIL the pet comes out of stealth – then your pet will go back to attacking the thief again (even if you continue to attack another target).

In short, you can see your F1 key as a lock on target for your pets. This is very useful against thieves and mesmers.

If you just let your pet attack whatever you are attacking, by never using your F1 key, they will not lock on to a target like this.

Cempa.5619:

build for regen and never worry about anything other than a mesmer again.

Really? i find mesmer’s to be one of my guaranteed kills

Most mesmer’s out there don’t run any sort of Condition Removal, so just keep applying conditions while dodging their damage and you should win.

Run pet on passive, press F1 while you have the Thief or correct Mesmer targeted … don’t press F1 again for that pet …

Your pet will now attack that Thief or correct Mesmer any time they are not stealthed no matter what they do. This is one of the beautiful aspects of the Ranger pet.

Sebrent.3625:

Run pet on passive, press F1 while you have the Thief or correct Mesmer targeted … don’t press F1 again for that pet …

Your pet will now attack that Thief or correct Mesmer any time they are not stealthed no matter what they do. This is one of the beautiful aspects of the Ranger pet.

But you don’t have to have your pet on passive for this to work…

OGDeadHead.8326:

Sebrent.3625:

Run pet on passive, press F1 while you have the Thief or correct Mesmer targeted … don’t press F1 again for that pet …

Your pet will now attack that Thief or correct Mesmer any time they are not stealthed no matter what they do. This is one of the beautiful aspects of the Ranger pet.

But you don’t have to have your pet on passive for this to work…

Are you sure? I thought that if you were in combat with anything else it would break it … if you’re correct, excellent.

I personally prefer passive though as it gives me the most control over my pet.

Passive(advanced players) and aggressive(new players)

one requires more micro than the other, as you can see i failed to micro and lost some dps in begin of fight. so for newer rangers who are watching practice micro your pet if you use passive mode

Lol yeah, I’m very new I guess, using aggressive all the time

Like I said it just depends how you want to control your pet. Theres nothing “new” about using aggresive. Your pet responds to attacks faster if its on aggresive, and theres nothing stopping you telling it to go for a different target or calling it back just like on passive.

Good practice is to even run your pet on passive in open world and dungeons. It gets you used to pressing F1 (or 1 in my case) to send your pet to attack a specific target.

Bailey.6892:

Ljiona.9142:

I usually used dogs for their knockdowns, fears, and cripples. However, last night I played with drakes. For some reason, it seemed to work better. The AOE F2 skills and tail spin put a serious hurting on them even when they stealthed. Dogs seemed to still be buggy and if they move out of range, the knockdown misses.

What drakes were you using?

Nothing special. Drake and salamander. The ones you can get in WvW In fact, all my pets but bear came from wvw.

Is that really an average thief, and an average ranger? To me it seems like a good ranger against a bad thief. Maybe its just wishful thinking because I would think that between equally skilled players a thief has a better chance of winning unless they are both highly skilled. In that case a ranger might win with the right build. What I’m certain of is that this is not the kind of thief I run into in wvw…

Sebrent.3625:

Are you sure? I thought that if you were in combat with anything else it would break it … if you’re correct, excellent.

I personally prefer passive though as it gives me the most control over my pet.

Actually, now I’m not sure anymore, lol. I may have to come back and revise my earlier post.

nagymbear.5280:

Is that really an average thief, and an average ranger? To me it seems like a good ranger against a bad thief. Maybe its just wishful thinking because I would think that between equally skilled players a thief has a better chance of winning unless they are both highly skilled. In that case a ranger might win with the right build. What I’m certain of is that this is not the kind of thief I run into in wvw…

I would have to agree with you here that the Ranger was a much better player than the Thief.

Sebrent.3625:

Run pet on passive, press F1 while you have the Thief or correct Mesmer targeted … don’t press F1 again for that pet …

Your pet will now attack that Thief or correct Mesmer any time they are not stealthed no matter what they do. This is one of the beautiful aspects of the Ranger pet.

Are you sure this works for you? cause I changed from passive to aggressive pet strictly because my pet never resumed attacking stealthers otherwise, not that I haven’t had my fair share of buggy pets of course.

And on another note there’s little reason to have your pet on passive now since they can’t aggro anything that hasn’t already aggroed you and likewise if you recall your pet while in combat already he’ll stay there until you manually tell him to attack again even if he is on aggressive stance, atleast that’s how it works for me.

Manekk.6981:

Sebrent.3625:

Run pet on passive, press F1 while you have the Thief or correct Mesmer targeted … don’t press F1 again for that pet …

Your pet will now attack that Thief or correct Mesmer any time they are not stealthed no matter what they do. This is one of the beautiful aspects of the Ranger pet.

Are you sure this works for you? cause I changed from passive to aggressive pet strictly because my pet never resumed attacking stealthers otherwise, not that I haven’t had my fair share of buggy pets of course.

And on another note there’s little reason to have your pet on passive now since they can’t aggro anything that hasn’t already aggroed you and likewise if you recall your pet while in combat already he’ll stay there until you manually tell him to attack again even if he is on aggressive stance, atleast that’s how it works for me.

I think it might depend on what targeting option you have selected

Manekk.6981:

Sebrent.3625:

Run pet on passive, press F1 while you have the Thief or correct Mesmer targeted … don’t press F1 again for that pet …

Your pet will now attack that Thief or correct Mesmer any time they are not stealthed no matter what they do. This is one of the beautiful aspects of the Ranger pet.

Are you sure this works for you? cause I changed from passive to aggressive pet strictly because my pet never resumed attacking stealthers otherwise, not that I haven’t had my fair share of buggy pets of course.

And on another note there’s little reason to have your pet on passive now since they can’t aggro anything that hasn’t already aggroed you and likewise if you recall your pet while in combat already he’ll stay there until you manually tell him to attack again even if he is on aggressive stance, atleast that’s how it works for me.

Yes. I’m positive. If I have my pet on passive and tell them to attack a player, it doesn’t matter how many clones or how much stealth that player uses, my pet will stick to them any time they aren’t stealthed.

Now, if you swap pets with F4, you’ll need to tell the new pet to attack.

With some of the glassier thieves I’ve found the longbow to be a great ranger. They will usually get into a pattern of when they stealth and get comfortable knowing you won’t be able to hit them once they stealth, so they play risky with their health. One of the great things about the longbow is that if you begin using rapid fire before they stealth, it will keep tracking them in stealth (it has the added bonus of showing you the thief’s location based on where the arrows are firing). If they were relying on close to no damage hitting them after stealth to survive, they will often go down or be forced to shadow refuge after a rapid fire. Barrage is also great for using it on shadow refuge. Quite often I’ve done that to find a downed thief at the end of the refuge. Other times I will cast barrage on myself when I know the thief is about to back stab me from stealth. This cripples them and forces them to take a lot more damage than they wanted to.

Most perma stealth thieves work in patterns and they can be somewhat predictable. The better ones will usually be very difficult to deal with (the ones that reset the fight constantly until your cool downs are up or you make a mistake, whenever they make a mistake they can just use stealth as a get out of jail free card. But the less skilled ones will often fall to a rapid fire or barrage if you time it right.

Then again you could go with a bunker BM build and thieves will have too much trouble with your sustain. Most of the good roaming builds have sustain and escape, if you build a bunker ranger with the great sword you can too. It’s a very niche play style though due to heavy reliance on the pet for DPS.

Xsorus.2507:

Cempa.5619:

build for regen and never worry about anything other than a mesmer again.

Really? i find mesmer’s to be one of my guaranteed kills

Most mesmer’s out there don’t run any sort of Condition Removal, so just keep applying conditions while dodging their damage and you should win.

tpvp mesmers put points in inspiration to remove condi whenever they heal and whenever they shatter. It’s about 4 condi clears every 15 seconds with just mindwrack+heal use. Pair that with null field and it’ll be quite some time condis are shrugged off.

Phantasm mesmers are also pretty rare, though, and that’s their prime dueling spec.

That’s the tpvp mesmers. I believe Xsorus is talking about the multitude of mesmers that are simply trying to copy+paste Osicat’s builds without realizing that those builds have no condition removal whatsoever. It works for Osicat, but I imagine it doesn’t work for more others.

I thought he was about my skill level as i made just as many mistakes, but if you say hes below average than ok sorry for the vid lol. Pm ingame if you are a thief for duels but i wont be able to use grasping vines unless you are dragonbrand or tarnished coast and it wont be the same as grasping vines is so fun.

You dont get duels in eb and if you do the thief usually runs if he loses and doesn’t stand to fight like this guy so respect to him.

Also the good duels i do get i dont remember to record because i just focus on having that good fight most the time. so footage i do get might be of lower quality fights.

Just had a really good duel with mesmer and thief comes in to down me when im below 10 percent health. Like i said you dont get duels in eb rofl.