Guild Wars 2

I was playing a ranger for over 2 months when i decided to reroll a warrior at the previous patch and I have been playing warrior for a month now i think. The 2 classes are geared a bit differently, so I don’t know how fair this comparison really is.

Ranger 20/25/10/0/15 using longbow and axe/warhorn. Sometimes i switch to greatsword and sometimes in shortbow instead of axe/warhorn depending on the fight.
Quickening zephyr, sharpening stone and signet of the wild for utility. The gear she is wearing is full power/prec/crit.

Warrior 20/0/20/30/0 Axe/shield and rifle. Sometimes i swap to greatsword. It is a healing shout support warrior wearing power/prec cit on all except helm,shoulders/legs, boots,gloves which are power/toughness/vitality. I use the rune of the soldier to remove conditions as well, which is an additional dps loss.

Damage comparison. Ranged damage is horrible on my warrior the ranger can easily do twice the damage without the pet,, maybe 3 times if the pet stays alive. The ranged damage of the ranger is similar to the mellee damage of the warrior because even if the warrior attacks for less, he hits so rapidly that he makes up for that loss. If the warrior uses greatsword, the dps is clearly greater than the ranger, no doubt about that.

Support comparison. The ranger only has the healing spring which gives regen and removes conditions for 15 sec IF they stand in that little circle which rarely happens. The warrior heals for 1.4k for each shout plus removes conditions with a small cd of 20 sec or so. He also buffs the party with fury and might most of the time if i’m the only warrior on the party and adds 10 stacks of vulnerability(which is similar to the longbow usage i guess). My warrior can also aoe rally pt members which is extremely handy in tough situations. From that i would say that my warrior beats the ranger in support by a great deal.

Survival comparison. The warrior can easily withstand 4-5 times as much damage taken. That said, the ranger does not often take damage being in range and has 50% more endurance by default, while the warrior is bound to get hit way more being in melee most of the time.

My conclusion. While the ranger CAN outdps a warrior in fights where melee is not an option, the support and survivability of my warrior more than make up for it and bring more to the party than my ranger ever could. I have to be less careful playing in my warrior because he can take a lot of damage while i have to be constantly on my toes with my ranger to not get hit.

KerriganGR.2736:

I was playing a ranger for over 2 months when i decided to reroll a warrior at the previous patch and I have been playing warrior for a month now i think. The 2 classes are geared a bit differently, so I don’t know how fair this comparison really is.

Ranger 20/25/10/0/15 … The gear she is wearing is full power/prec/crit.

Warrior 20/0/20/30/0 … warrior wearing power/prec cit on all except helm,shoulders/legs, boots,gloves which are power/toughness/vitality. I use the rune of the soldier to remove conditions as well, which is an additional dps loss.

Damage comparison. Ranged damage is horrible on my warrior the ranger can easily do twice the damage without the pet,, maybe 3 times if the pet stays alive. The ranged damage of the ranger is similar to the mellee damage of the warrior because even if the warrior attacks for less, he hits so rapidly that he makes up for that loss. If the warrior uses greatsword, the dps is clearly greater than the ranger, no doubt about that.

Let me deal with this little bit of your post for now.

You are comparing Warrior and Ranger damage. Great! We need some actual proof as to which is better. However, to do this you need to gear them exactly the same. Trying to compare a damage Warrior with 5/6 of its armor set not being Berserkers to a Ranger with 6/6 Berserker’s, doesn’t really mean anything as the Ranger should clearly do more damage. Now if I understood what I bolded in the quote wrong, I apologize and please correct me.

Also, as for the rest of your post, you also cannot compare Ranger and Warrior support based on the two given examples (which I don’t know if you are or not), for the same reasons I just mentioned above, the same with survivability.

I don’t know, maybe I’m just not understanding something but I don’t think this comparison is really equal in terms of testing environment.

I said in the beginning of my post this is probably not the best and fairest way to compare. It is merely my experience playing the 2 specific builds. The goal of this post is mostly to stress that my warrior can dps reasonably not being full on damage gear and be good support at the same time. I am hoping at some point the devs make ranger have a viable support build just as my warrior has. I still like my ranger but i feel more useful on my warrior. I am just hoping that ranger will be given more options in the future especially in spirits that need a complete overhaul to make them viable.

Let’s see, you are comparing two different classes with unsimilar builds. Hey, I wonder why you think your support warrior is more supportive than your dps ranger.

This thread is really skewed in information. Try to avoid “comparing” threads if the classes are built completely differently.

Tsubaki.2508:

Let’s see, you are comparing two different classes with unsimilar builds. Hey, I wonder why you think your support warrior is more supportive than your dps ranger.

Gee find me a viable support build for ranger then. Also, you are missing the point i think. A support build tanky warrior has equal or more dps than a glass cannon ranger where melee is possible.

KerriganGR.2736:

Tsubaki.2508:

Let’s see, you are comparing two different classes with unsimilar builds. Hey, I wonder why you think your support warrior is more supportive than your dps ranger.

Gee find me a viable support build for ranger then

Apothecary Gear, Use Healing Spring with Vigor on Heal Talent.

Could technically use Traps also….for more Fields..

Either way, your post makes very little sense.

Warrior has much better burst, slightly better dps, better survivability.

Having said that, ranger has ok burst, and pretty decent dps. The rangers real strength is he doesnt need to be close range. Its entirely possible for a ranger to take out a warrior without even needing to use a single heal (I have done it a fair few times if you catch it right).

Its the warrior who has the difficult job, because unless he lands that stupid fury 100b, he is going to struggle to hold onto the ranger. If anything, I would say the warrior has a disadvantage to overcome when facing a ranger.

Shrug, the topic of the post says my experience… To me that says my opinion… Ofcourse its not a fair comparison, the OP even said that. So, all you people saying bad comparison or thats unfair because gear, thanks for wasting your time typing. Because get this…… THE OP SAID THAT. Its an opinion thread…

Now Imo, after have both the same classes at 80 now. The ranger adds alot of support from just the one ability healing spring. I never see anyone mention the fact that it is a 15 second (50 percent up time) water field that if your party knows how to interact with brings WAY more healing that just regen.

Thats not to say I think the ranger has more support than warrior. I run a shout build on my war also. I think the war edges out the ranger supportwise… Although to be fair they can be somewhat different methods of support.

O P I N I O N !!!

comparing warrior melee dps with ranger ranged dps is like comparing apples and oranges. personally as a ranger, i wld find it alil imba if rangers cld pewpew as hard as warriors wif GS.

however in saying that,right now theres too much disparity between ranger and warrior dps…which is the main reason why rangers are making a big fuss. furthermore warriors can equal/outperform rangers in ranged atk…dafaq…

Damage.7493:

Shrug, the topic of the post says my experience… To me that says my opinion… Ofcourse its not a fair comparison, the OP even said that. So, all you people saying bad comparison or thats unfair because gear, thanks for wasting your time typing. Because get this…… THE OP SAID THAT. Its an opinion thread…

This.

Not a fair comparison, I don’t do kitten for damage (for good reason mind you) but I can maintain perma fury, swiftness, and regen for my group as well Mass Rez + condi purge 4 times every 4 minutes, which also grants huge amounts of healing over that period of time (420hp per second for 60 seconds) not to mention the AoE condi removal, the 10 stacks vuln, poison, perma cripple on 1 target, aoe cripple, granting 3stacks of might everytime I heal, etc.