Guild Wars 2

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Where-are-the-Monks/

Please discuss there, thank you.

But you don’t have to play a healer to be a druid. The current meta build just happens to be focused on healing.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV8PjMqQ3KWuCurYxRwgTqT1saz3KWVBYCATuLHA-TpA7gAmlBA2fAA

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJATWnUqAVsi1CC+CCctgFMB75Gsqicw10eaRtZZNACAA-TpQSABKXGAg9HAA

Why are people so hung up about the ranger’s image?

Really? Because as I remember it at launch we had a few revival traits and skills that worked well together. There was a “Medic Ranger” build that saw some use. Then two of our heal skills can also heal allies around us (Water Spirit and Healing Spring) and one of our elite skills is also a healbot (Spirit of Nature). For a while spirits were our meta build, and that was a heavy support build focused on giving allies boons and light heals through our spirits. We can also spec our shouts for regen.

Ranger has always had a lot of options to be support oriented emergency medic characters. It’s just that we weren’t as good at it as other options. Now we are.

I’m sorry but … You are 1 year late with this topic.
… And not really right, either.

Druid’s are offensive buffers / disruptors / healers which means supports of any kind you might want to ask for. If you stopped your train of thought where meta began – then you did something like taking a kiwi fruit to your hand and claiming it’s brown because you haven’t tried looking inside of it to see it’s green as well.

As a long time ranger main, i absolutely hate druid. Not because its bad or doesn’t fit ranger, but because its just so boring.

Glyphs are uninspired PBAoEs, which when compared to how interesting elementalist glyphs are, kinda just fall flat. Most of our glyphs are pretty useful though, so there’s that. Staff has one neat ability in its 3, and outside that is just whatever. The traits are boring but so is the whole GW2 trait system, it being just a bunch of passives with only a handful actually effecting your playstyle

Really, druid exists because it needed to for raiding, and because there is no developer interest in rangers, so an elite spec that has barely anything to do with any ranger play-style makes sense.

For all of use that don’t like Druid, all we can do is wait for the next elite spec and hope its more to our liking, not that we would ever get to use it in any group PvE setting while GotL exists, but whatever. /Rant

Disclaimer: Most of this is my opinion.

EvilToaster.7406:

As a long time ranger main, i absolutely hate druid. Not because its bad or doesn’t fit ranger, but because its just so boring.

Glyphs are uninspired PBAoEs, which when compared to how interesting elementalist glyphs are, kinda just fall flat. Most of our glyphs are pretty useful though, so there’s that. Staff has one neat ability in its 3, and outside that is just whatever. The traits are boring but so is the whole GW2 trait system, it being just a bunch of passives with only a handful actually effecting your playstyle

Really, druid exists because it needed to for raiding, and because there is no developer interest in rangers, so an elite spec that has barely anything to do with any ranger play-style makes sense.

For all of use that don’t like Druid, all we can do is wait for the next elite spec and hope its more to our liking, not that we would ever get to use it in any group PvE setting while GotL exists, but whatever. /Rant

Disclaimer: Most of this is my opinion.

I’ll trade you the glyph of elementals for glyph of equality

I made my comments to his post in the GW2 discussion thread he linked above. God, I’m tired of this complaint. You don’t like druid, fine. Don’t play it. Problem solved.

Druid follows a very similar philosophy to Spirit Ranger (party support through unique buffs) while also adding a “burst healer” role to the mix. Its not really everyone’s cup of tea, which is fairly understandable. That said, it “works” for what it seems to be meant to do (how well is individual opinion), but while I don’t mind it, I’d really want a spec that can change Ranger gameplay beyond the usual role of sacrificing your own DPS for the sake of the group.

Which they will probably do with future elite specs.

Sarision.6347:

Why are people so hung up about the ranger’s image?

People are concern with the image of Ranger because it has a lot to do with what’s expected of you.

How other people view the class affect getting accepted into raids and other groups.
When people view ranger damage as low then your less likely to be accepted into a party as dps ’er when there the support role is already filled.

Its funny how before hot people were asking for more group support and now it is view as druid gaves us all we needed.

In a game were everyone has healing a dedicated healer really isn’t needed. Ranger dps is so lacking (now more than ever with s/a changes) That its easier to put ranger in that role and not feel a difference.

A 15% dps increase among 5 people with one of those people not doing any damage isn’t an increase (if all things were equal). However since Ranger Dps is lacking it is a buff being that other class have better dps (and can buff at the same time).

The other dps buffs are from core ranger which we found lacking before Hot.

A lot of us feel ranger are better now, This is do largely do to condi changes and the rise of the bunker meta. Yet, even with these changes Ranger condi damage isn’t great.

Most of use felt that staff should have been a condi weapon (I suspect that with the way af works with condi is the reason its not). Even if it had been in pvp we don’t have apothecary gear with would make the best use of the condi change and with the rise of bunker builds (staff does help use with all the projectile hate).

A lot of changes in Hot has been good for Rangers, Druid isn’t one of them.

I was playing Rampager Longbow & Sword/Torch before HoT.
Now I am playing Rampager Longbow & Staff after HoT.

Roaming has never been more fun for me.
What is this “healer monk” thing lol.

Justine.6351:

I was playing Rampager Longbow & Sword/Torch before HoT.
Now I am playing Rampager Longbow & Staff after HoT.

Roaming has never been more fun for me.
What is this “healer monk” thing lol.

why use a staff if your not healing ( staff heals or Celestial).

Serraphin Storm.2369:

Justine.6351:

I was playing Rampager Longbow & Sword/Torch before HoT.
Now I am playing Rampager Longbow & Staff after HoT.

Roaming has never been more fun for me.
What is this “healer monk” thing lol.

why use a staff if your not healing ( staff heals or Celestial).

Staff has great utility skills, a blast/vapor escape, a bind, and a water field/projectile blocker

Serraphin Storm.2369:

Justine.6351:

I was playing Rampager Longbow & Sword/Torch before HoT.
Now I am playing Rampager Longbow & Staff after HoT.

Roaming has never been more fun for me.
What is this “healer monk” thing lol.

why use a staff if your not healing ( staff heals or Celestial).

high precision & medium bleeds
solar beam + earth sigil + sharpened edges
primal echoes + geomancy sigil + ancient seeds
quick draw + ancestral grace
smoke cloud + ancestral grace
sublime conversion

but in the spirit of this thread, my staff is not actually rampager like most of my other gear, it is Settlers (Toughness + Condition Damage/Healing Power)

Ashantara.8731:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Where-are-the-Monks/

Please discuss there, thank you.

The only thibg i can say about this is:" Mimimimimimi"
Really stoo complaining, you can play it lile you want but i play my druid not as a healer.
I play it with apothecary gear for condi dmg vitality and self sustain for pve and wvw. I use quickdra a/t and i can solo bloomhunger on fractal 15, druud is sweet now despite it has launch issiues.
AF is best tool to safe you from kitten situations and ancient seeds with a lot of stuns (spike trap, glyph of equality) together with bonfire and flame trap is perfect AoE spike, verdant etching gives condi cleanse and blind on demant and number 3&4 from AF is good stun and burst heal for sustain.
You can be a beast if you want and very natur bound class.

Ashantara.8731:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Where-are-the-Monks/

Please discuss there, thank you.

Get lost seriously. Your posting a thread to push a thread. That’s spam and its against the rules here.

As for the rest of the discussion here…

Many people have said this, but I will reiterate: druid does not just open up healing. Druid brought tones of things to ranger such as blinds, sustain, immobilize, interrupts/control and buffs.

We got everything but high sustained damage… boo hoo. Were one of the most well rounded and useful classes in the game. If a group does not want to bring you then you obviously don’t want to run with them as they don’t have a clue.

I think it’s a troll thread. He hasn’t posted again here or in the thread he advertised here.

Rangers begged A-net for more supportive abilities. A-net gave Rangers supportive spec option.

Case closed.

I don’t think a lot of rangers realize that they can completely ignore Druid and be totally fine…. In fact if your goal is to kill things Druid is a DPS nerf in any and all situations where you’re 1) not condi, and 2) you can’t CC the target.

IE: unless you need the healing you don’t need Druid.

Oh this thread again, I thought it died off last month for good….

1) You aren’t forced to play it
2) Every Class will eventually have an elite spec that will give them something new
2A) If you’re so kitten, look on the bright side, we got the healing portion out of the way.
2B) You’re still very upset this long after HoT release?
3) If it hurts your feelings that much go play Dragon Hunter, they have traps, they have long bows… and they even have pet on perma stow for not getting one.

EvilToaster.7406:

As a long time ranger main, i absolutely hate druid. Not because its bad or doesn’t fit ranger, but because its just so boring.

Glyphs are uninspired PBAoEs, which when compared to how interesting elementalist glyphs are, kinda just fall flat. Most of our glyphs are pretty useful though, so there’s that. Staff has one neat ability in its 3, and outside that is just whatever. The traits are boring but so is the whole GW2 trait system, it being just a bunch of passives with only a handful actually effecting your playstyle

Really, druid exists because it needed to for raiding, and because there is no developer interest in rangers, so an elite spec that has barely anything to do with any ranger play-style makes sense.

For all of use that don’t like Druid, all we can do is wait for the next elite spec and hope its more to our liking, not that we would ever get to use it in any group PvE setting while GotL exists, but whatever. /Rant

Disclaimer: Most of this is my opinion.

Not only well said but the truth. Tried druid in a variety of situations and builds—it has no place for me since I don’t and won’t Raid. Maybe one day there will be a dev that hs some interest.

kittening kitten, this thread again

have u people never entered pvp? druid made ranger actually playable in a 1v1