Guild Wars 2

Alright so yesterday my friend chase down a ranger and fell down the well (hole) in Silent Storm. So it turn into a water battle. My friend hate underwater fight so asked me to take a dive and help her out -____-. She was attacking the ranger, while I went after the pet. After I killed the pet, I went after the ranger and used my Nine tailed Strike to counter him. I’m constantly doing damage ranging from 4-7k. I came in with 3/4 hp on my thief while the ranger was down. He killed my friend and slowly pick me down. It seem like he was out healing my damage in down statement and hitting me hard. I end up losing… only explanation was “HE HAXXOR! OMG!” lols

Can someone explain to me what happen? I fought him on land and he wasn’t much of a threat compare to underwater battle -____-.

Nine Tailed Strikes: Block your foe and counterattack with a series of strike. Gain initiative if you’re not attacked.

Rangers are gods underwater. When it works thier pet healing abities (down state) can easily overcome two attacks. Mesners can be a problem with confusion. Ha I can see a nerf coming. the trick is to kill them before the can use lick wounds. It would be eaier to Let the pet res. Then down him again and kill him before lick wounds.

Or just run.

As for all ppl saying that a downed pet shouldn’t be able to res its master, I’d like to toss this image in here. By all accounts, a downed pet should be able to ressurect.

Sorry, sloppy marking I noticed, but I think you see anyway.

The first thing I did was, I kill the pet because I notice it is their best weapon in down state. Instead, what I should do is let his pet res him so I can down him again and finish him before the lick wounds occur? It seem like rangers’ lick wound heal more than guardian down state number 3 skills. O.o

But my best option is to run cause I can’t kill a ranger underwater -____-

Thanks OG! LOLS

After I view the image and read Search and Rescue and lick wound, smart choice is, don’t kill the pet. Even if the pet hp drop down to zero it still can support players if he/she have Search and Rescue on their utility skills. And with lick wound, which is the number 3 skills can res the pet and ranger? Is that what it mean by getting up? Sorry that is how I’m interpreting the skill at the moment. So basically I started to hammer on him when his lick wounds was activated…

I guess the only option is to avoid water battle with a ranger in the future or spam number 1 with haste. Try to take them down before lick wound occur.

Thanks. That ranger was more dangerous in down state, than when he is alive and well… I didn’t know how to deal with “lick and wound” till now. I had the mentality if I can burst him down before he heal up, I win. Didn’t do my homework, so lick and wound took me by surprise.

Thanks for the information =D

lick wounds keeps healing until the ranger gets up. You can interrupt it via the normal ways of interrupting things (daze/knockdown/blowout/stun/blablablabla) to the best of my knowledge. Because damage is lower across the board under water and lick wounds is the same its incredibly strong. In all honesty if you MUST fight a ranger under water you may very well be better off avoiding him until the pet reses him killing him avoiding again and then finally finishing him off after the third down thanks to downed penalty.

I’m wondering what happens if a pet gets interrupted while trying to lick wounds?

Also, remember there are quite a few seconds before a ranger can activate lick wounds in the first place. On several occasions I’ve been burned down before even being able to activate the ability.

So if I can burst them down before they activate lick wounds under water, I’ll be okay. Or my second choice is to flee temporarily and let their pet res them and try to burst them down before activating lick wound? I guess if I can put them on down state, I’ll just make a run for it. So I buy time for myself to get away.

OR should I used a skill that daze, knockdown, stun and etc to interrupt the skill? Once I interrupt the skills, lick wound become useless right?

But the thing is… my friend and I die in a flash. After talking to her about it, it is one of those bizarre moments you can’t explain. We just know… he was immortal in downstate. I guess it is time to set up my utilities to fit more for under water battle.

Thanks again =D

OGDeadHead.8326:

As for all ppl saying that a downed pet shouldn’t be able to res its master, I’d like to toss this image in here. By all accounts, a downed pet should be able to ressurect.

I think what people refer to has nothing to do with the shout “guard”. Rather, when downed, the 3 skill (lick wounds) will instantly rez the pet, however, if the pet shbsequently dies while healing, it will not heal you until you can recast “lick wounds” to again kick rez the pet.

thief got beaten by a ranger, must have been a haxxor obviously better lets ask in the forums.

and i hate to tell you but … “first thing i did, was going for the pet” … you DESERVED to lose that fight, if he is not playing without hands he will just swap the pet out anyway right before its dead. Or swaps it out after its dead, once he sees you stopped going for it. (btw rangers can use f1-f4 even in downed state)

this is a condition mesmer video i ran into, and after watching a fight vs a ranger underwater i decided to google ranger underwater op gw2 and got redirected to this thread, i saw your discussion above and i just want to show you guys this video clip the fight vs a ranger underwater starts @ 4:00

Yeah, about the only class that can really compete with a Ranger underwater is a necro. Crazy long-lasting poison carries over to Lick Wounds as well and they have a lot of interrupts underwater to stop the pet.

Please excuse this exhumation, but i can’t find a younger post. (Search engine is a lie)

Today a ranger killed me, he was downed twice, I killed the pet who was trying to revive him, and I had still more than 80% hp. And he won.

GW2 wiki states on lick wounds " When fighting against a ranger, the only way to completely interrupt this skill once it’s been used is by defeating the ranger or its pet "

Underwater killing the pet won’t stop him, nothing will.
- 15% hp/s, on a ranger with vita as primary stat it’s >3600hp/s. God Mod.
He will overheal 1,2 maybe 3 opponents.

15% is ok, when you can stomp, underwater it’s way too much.
Defeating a pet licking wounds should stop him.

When I was playing condi warrior (before ranger) I was searching for a burst type class and for some reason was looking at thief underwater skills and thought wow op. I asked a thief friend if he loved fighting underwater and he said if he had to fight underwater he would wrather be ranger ;-)

laspa.4182:

Please excuse this exhumation, but i can’t find a younger post. (Search engine is a lie)

Today a ranger killed me, he was downed twice, I killed the pet who was trying to revive him, and I had still more than 80% hp. And he won.

GW2 wiki states on lick wounds " When fighting against a ranger, the only way to completely interrupt this skill once it’s been used is by defeating the ranger or its pet "

Underwater killing the pet won’t stop him, nothing will.
- 15% hp/s, on a ranger with vita as primary stat it’s >3600hp/s. God Mod.
He will overheal 1,2 maybe 3 opponents.

15% is ok, when you can stomp, underwater it’s way too much.
Defeating a pet licking wounds should stop him.

If the pet is alive when they start Lick Wounds, you can kill the pet and it will interrupt it. This does work. However, if Lick Wounds comes off cooldown on the Ranger, he can use it again and this time, you can’t do anything about it.

CrazySushi.5748:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0fFB2FIpBM

this is a condition mesmer video i ran into, and after watching a fight vs a ranger underwater i decided to google ranger underwater op gw2 and got redirected to this thread, i saw your discussion above and i just want to show you guys this video clip the fight vs a ranger underwater starts @ 4:00

what armor was that mesmer wearing? that long skirt?

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

If the pet is alive when they start Lick Wounds, you can kill the pet and it will interrupt it. This does work. However, if Lick Wounds comes off cooldown on the Ranger, he can use it again and this time, you can’t do anything about it.

Nope it doesnt :
-> wiki http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Lick_Wounds
" While underwater, defeated pets will still continue channeling this skill. "
-> video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwa8ZjTKrqg&feature=youtu.be
pet die at 0.57, still revive the ranger.

Even if ‘lick’ was up again, it’s still a broken mechanic.

@Sticker : Winged pants [&AgGpKwAA].

In my experience, my pet being killed while using lick wounds stops the channel about 70% of the time, the rest of the time my dead pet will rez me. If my pet does die and it stops ressing, lick wounds is usually off cool down at that point and I can start it again.

You really are just better off not fighting a ranger underwater. Anet has given up on water combat so don’t expect to see a change to this anytime soon.

well they removed spvp water map, they removed krait lake in the borderlands to just small pools/channels. Will Bay Keep survive 2015?

I honestly think they shouldn’t give up on underwater combat. I would like to see a 90% underwater wvw map.

Shame ground targeting is useless and being melee pvp is sucky underwater.

Not really any point in fixing underwater skills until they give more care to underwater pvp.