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Posted by: kekuso.5837

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So I recently learned that the jaguar pet F2 skill grants stealth that doesn’t break even when it attacks, and all hits are guaranteed to crit (according to gw2 wiki). This itself seems pretty awesome to me, so I started investigating just how much this can be “exploited.” Theoretically, the jaguar pet could be traited to be the most hilariously OP pet, with this build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQBdiURVwJWIZBrlBimCORJmiDho3D0r+2XhSkA

Notice that I did not include weapons, since you are not playing ranger, you are playing Jaguar. You can add weapons if you want to support your pet.

Here are the buffs that the jaguar has up all the time:
- 30% more crit dmg and gain health on crit (Skirmishing traits)
- up to 250% more power, prec, toughness, and vitality from Master’s Bond (not very applicable in pvp, but meh)
- bleed on crit and health regen (BM traits)
- +350 cond. damage (Wilderness traits)
- more health regen from Signet of the Wild

With the utility skills your jaguar will have access to:
- 10 seconds of 40% damage and movement speed (sic em)
- 12 (?) seconds of +25% damage and stability (Signet of the Wild activation)
- Frenzy every 48 seconds
- Protection when you dodge
- Heal as One or Troll Unguent
- 20
seconds of stability, might, and fury (Rampage as One)

Add that all up and you have a tanky and insanely damaging/bursty Jaguar. Oh and a pet Ranger, that should be be specced for “tanking” and as flamboyantly distracting as possible.

Applications:
- In WvW the “Guard” skill makes most enemy siege a non-issue (you’ll have to swap out SoW or another utility for this tho). The Guard skill, as most rangers have discovered, allows your pet to scale walls, gain stealth and protection, and catch defender by surprise, all at 3000 range.
- In skirmishes, you (the Jaguar) have access to a stealth burst that is just as OP as thieves imo, just make sure to have your ranger distract your opponent and stay alive (from up to 3000 range).
- In dungeons, just play as if you were a glass cannon thief. Know when to get out of melee range and when to make your ranger roll for protection. Note that the one thing a jaguar will struggle with is AoE, so you may want to take a break and let a drake take over for certain encounters. They excel at AoE and blast finishing fields.
- I have no idea how well this build would fare in spvp, but notice that you still have some access to speccing for traps in addition to crazy single target dps.

There will certainly be people who will call this build non-viable, but this build seems like a welcome alternative to playing the weakest class in Guild Wars. I encourage you to re-roll Jaguar to experience this for yourself.

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Posted by: firebreathz.7692

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Posted by: AjoraOaks.3659

AjoraOaks.3659

Very close to the build I’m currently using and with a jaguar, I’m playing around with 0/30/10/0/30, same things except I’ve been testing compassion training vs speed training vs master’s bond in beastmastery and I prefer agility training so I can roll with the hp regen signet and my pet won’t get juked as easily. I use 10 into survival for my survivability when I need dodges and I’ve been testing expertise training vs wilderness knowledge (always coupled with shout master). Shout master & wilderness knowledge are good choices for pve imo, coupled with the pet swap quickness you get quite a lot of burst dmg from the quickness spam in pve situations.

My other thoughts for personal builds were 0/30/5/15/20 or maybe 0/20/5/15/30

Best thing about using the jaguar is that it can completely sneak up to people in WvW at times because pets are ignored so often that they don’t expect it when it stealths and then suddenly they’re getting crit for 3-4k+ spam with quickness/sick’em.

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

So I recently learned that the jaguar pet F2 skill grants stealth that doesn’t break even when it attacks, and all hits are guaranteed to crit (according to gw2 wiki). This itself seems pretty awesome to me, so I started investigating just how much this can be “exploited.” Theoretically, the jaguar pet could be traited to be the most hilariously OP pet, with this build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQBdiURVwJWIZBrlBimCORJmiDho3D0r+2XhSkA

Notice that I did not include weapons, since you are not playing ranger, you are playing Jaguar. You can add weapons if you want to support your pet.

Here are the buffs that the jaguar has up all the time:
- 30% more crit dmg and gain health on crit (Skirmishing traits)
- up to 250% more power, prec, toughness, and vitality from Master’s Bond (not very applicable in pvp, but meh)
- bleed on crit and health regen (BM traits)
- +350 cond. damage (Wilderness traits)
- more health regen from Signet of the Wild

With the utility skills your jaguar will have access to:
- 10 seconds of 40% damage and movement speed (sic em)
- 12 (?) seconds of +25% damage and stability (Signet of the Wild activation)
- Frenzy every 48 seconds
- Protection when you dodge
- Heal as One or Troll Unguent
- 20
seconds of stability, might, and fury (Rampage as One)

Add that all up and you have a tanky and insanely damaging/bursty Jaguar. Oh and a pet Ranger, that should be be specced for “tanking” and as flamboyantly distracting as possible.

Applications:
- In WvW the “Guard” skill makes most enemy siege a non-issue (you’ll have to swap out SoW or another utility for this tho). The Guard skill, as most rangers have discovered, allows your pet to scale walls, gain stealth and protection, and catch defender by surprise, all at 3000 range.
- In skirmishes, you (the Jaguar) have access to a stealth burst that is just as OP as thieves imo, just make sure to have your ranger distract your opponent and stay alive (from up to 3000 range).
- In dungeons, just play as if you were a glass cannon thief. Know when to get out of melee range and when to make your ranger roll for protection. Note that the one thing a jaguar will struggle with is AoE, so you may want to take a break and let a drake take over for certain encounters. They excel at AoE and blast finishing fields.
- I have no idea how well this build would fare in spvp, but notice that you still have some access to speccing for traps in addition to crazy single target dps.

There will certainly be people who will call this build non-viable, but this build seems like a welcome alternative to playing the weakest class in Guild Wars. I encourage you to re-roll Jaguar to experience this for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Xsorus/videos?view=0
Natures Ninja and Pain Inverter – Ranger PvP movies
http://www.twitch.tv/xsorovos

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

Chopps.5047

I’m using a variant of this build right now and have found much success. Pets gain health on crit is good for survivability even when not complimented by the BM traitline, although I do also prefer X/30/X/X/30 for dungeons/wvw lately. You have to be careful with your build since you don’t have much inherent surivability. You probably want to focus on either soldier or your favorite conditions stat (depends on weapon choice and playstyle).

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Posted by: Pendleton.6385

Pendleton.6385

Jaguar + f2 + QZ + 30% extra pet damage is amazingly fun.

Last night, I was hiding out of sight at an overtaken supply camp waiting for roamers to try and retake it. They engage the npc’s to pull them one by one.

They never see the jaguar and have no idea what’s going on until they’re down.

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Posted by: vespers.1759

vespers.1759

watch thieves complain this is OP when it’s basically what they do 24/7.

Bristleback can’t hit anything? Let’s fix the HP bug instead.

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Posted by: capuchinseven.8395

capuchinseven.8395

Heh, someone else using the build I’ve been using.

s’why I find the “I’ll just kill your pet” trolling from some people on the board to be funny. Really? You’ll kill my QZ, Sick’em, 30% extra crit damage and heal on crit supped up totally in stealth that I swap to as soon as I see you’re trying to kill my pet, jaguar?

Maybe they would, but with this build it’s always fun to watch what happens when they try.

Here’s mine, I find masters bond useless even with the jaguar because I still still swap pets, so I drop it for extra survivability. I also find it works well with other DPS pets like birds even without the stealth.

The only problem I have with this build is stuns and immobilisation’s so I don’t tend to run it in sPVP.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJARVnAVkYZVQSWwaZgopgSWip4QI69IW0q9A;ToAgzCnoqxUjoGbNuak1sIYgB

(Ignore the greatsword, I’m trying to change my mind about it and force myself to use it.)

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Posted by: Moddo.7105

Moddo.7105

Trying using GS#5 with this build. Hilt Bash : 30 Daze your foe with a hilt bash. Stun them if you hit from behind. Your pet’s next attack does 50% more damage.

The 50% extra seems to work even if don’t hit a opponent. My Jag macked someone for 6800 once using that.

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Posted by: joffmonk.1285

joffmonk.1285

I was using this spec last night in wvw, the pet was having a ball, i on the other hand was standing about watching and giggling a bit. I do think the guard getting inside keeps is gonna get fixed though, coz it is pretty OP’d with this setup. Totally hilarious but still I think its considered an exploit.
shame really

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

Trying using GS#5 with this build. Hilt Bash : 30 Daze your foe with a hilt bash. Stun them if you hit from behind. Your pet’s next attack does 50% more damage.

The 50% extra seems to work even if don’t hit a opponent. My Jag macked someone for 6800 once using that.

Really now.. well isn’t that interesting … will have to try that.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Xsorus/videos?view=0
Natures Ninja and Pain Inverter – Ranger PvP movies
http://www.twitch.tv/xsorovos

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Posted by: capuchinseven.8395

capuchinseven.8395

Trying using GS#5 with this build. Hilt Bash : 30 Daze your foe with a hilt bash. Stun them if you hit from behind. Your pet’s next attack does 50% more damage.

The 50% extra seems to work even if don’t hit a opponent. My Jag macked someone for 6800 once using that.

Really now.. well isn’t that interesting … will have to try that.

Ha hadn’t thought of that either, I’ll have to take a look at that after I finish playing around with a condition build.

The bravest animal in the land is Captain Beaky and his band.