Ruby Orb vs Rune of the Ranger?

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Posted by: Kain Francois.4328

Kain Francois.4328

I wish to make a very high damage, glassy ranger to use with the newly buffed Maul.

Problem is, which setup would benefit me more? Full Ruby Orb or Rune of the Ranger? The latter obviously has more crit rate, but will I still deal more overall less damage? Or is the +165 precision with + 13% damage better than +6% dmg with +120 power and +84 precision?

I’m really confused which setup to use. Help me figure this out. Thanks!

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Posted by: HotHit.6783

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Rune of the ranger will always give you 5% increased damage, even while your pet’s downed. This is because your pet still exists, it just isn’t helping. There’s probably better rune choices. But an extra 120 power, 84 precision and 12% crit damage just isn’t as good.

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Posted by: Lambent.6375

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Did they fix the rune? Back when I was wondering the same thing I did some searches and kept stumbling on threads saying the rune of the ranger’s 6th bonus sometimes didn’t work, even when the pet was up.

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Posted by: Kain Francois.4328

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So is rune of the ranger not good? Should I go Ruby orb, or another set?

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Posted by: HotHit.6783

HotHit.6783

Sorry Lambent, this is the first I’ve heard about it being bugged.

As for rune set ups… Looking through them Ranger actually looks really good (but I’m no expert when it comes to damage builds). However, if you can reliably flank your foe, the Thief runes are definitely better for you (you’re likely to try to flank anyway for hilt bash), so yeah.

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There, it’s dead and it’s never coming back!” – Famous last words

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Posted by: Lambent.6375

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I don’t know, I was hoping it would be working now.

This was the thread that turned me off from getting it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Why-use-rune-of-the-eagle-over-ranger/first#post1165625

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Posted by: WonderfulCT.6278

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I wish to make a very high damage, glassy ranger to use with the newly buffed Maul.

Problem is, which setup would benefit me more? Full Ruby Orb or Rune of the Ranger? The latter obviously has more crit rate, but will I still deal more overall less damage? Or is the +165 precision with + 13% damage better than +6% dmg with +120 power and +84 precision?

I’m really confused which setup to use. Help me figure this out. Thanks!

Firstly why do you consider the damage gained from runes of the ranger to be 13% if you consider the ruby orbs to add 6% damage. Ruby orbs each add 2% crit damage and if you are adding crit damage as % increased you are inaccurate.

Someone who checked out how to obtain the highest dps says that power is greater than crit damage and as such concluded that max dps from runes would go in order of: 6 runes of the scholar, 5 runes of the mesmer and one ruby orb and lastly 6 ruby orbs. This is for any class, however I have yet to check if runes of the mesmer actually increase dps better than ruby orbs.

I’ll add the thread when I find it.

So to answer your question, the ruby orbs would increase your damage more than runes of the ranger.

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Posted by: Swiftwynd.1685

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Rune of the Ranger is very powerful for the potential of reaching 100% crit chance, AT WHICH POINT crit damage DOES become nearly a raw damage increase.

The problem is that crit damage is added to the 150% base increase. So 100% crit damage means that crits will effectively be 2.5 base damage.

The nice thing is reaching 100% crit gives you amazingly reliable damage out put, and immunity to the damage halving potential of Weakness AND the “grazing” blows against foes that are level 81+. So, there is plenty of positive value for getting crit chance and damage very high over raw power, but power effects everything, including things that cant be crit at all, so it too has its benefits.

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Posted by: Atroras.9481

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The argument for this would be that in order to reach anywhere close to 100% crit, you would sacrifice a lot of power in exchange of precision, in addition to spamming fury all the time. Which I believe to be overall less consistent (and much more trouble) than having consistent high damage with berserker.

Of course I’ve not done any damage calculation of whether the consistent crit damage from precision outdo the damage output from power, but for simplicity’s sake I simply changed all my Rampager over to berserker.

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Posted by: Swiftwynd.1685

Swiftwynd.1685

My ranger gets very close to 100% crit chance in full berserker exotics + ascended amulet + oil + curry + Spotter trait, and if a warrior is in the group I’m pretty sure I’m 100% with Fury on.

We get Fury very easily from our Elite, Warhorn, and weapon swapping, and with a party memeber suppling it (Ele, another Ranger, or Warrior elite banner) then we’re golden.

The question remains if this IS higher consistent dps or not though, where as Scholar Runes are probably just “better” in general though since they have the health requirement.

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Posted by: Atroras.9481

Atroras.9481

Hmm. I never really thought about reaching 100% with oil and curry.. I need to try this out! Yea, the ruby orbs vs scholar or ranger remains I guess. I just threw ruby orbs into mine before I reached a decision! =D

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Posted by: Shiren.9532

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My ranger gets very close to 100% crit chance in full berserker exotics + ascended amulet + oil + curry + Spotter trait, and if a warrior is in the group I’m pretty sure I’m 100% with Fury on.

We get Fury very easily from our Elite, Warhorn, and weapon swapping, and with a party memeber suppling it (Ele, another Ranger, or Warrior elite banner) then we’re golden.

The question remains if this IS higher consistent dps or not though, where as Scholar Runes are probably just “better” in general though since they have the health requirement.

You don’t need a warrior.

After looking at one of the things that makes warriors so good and ways to contribute to a party that a ranger has, Fury is one of the better ones. Between war horn five for Call of the Wild and the red moa’s Furious Screech (trait for reduced cooldowns) the ranger can put out very reliable party wide Fury. This can be especially helpful for situations where the warrior shouts won’t reach the back line. Fury is one of the more useful boons in the game and rangers have multiple ways to access it (we can also trait to get it on weapon swap, so 100% fury up time is not hard at all).