[SALT]Natchniony – Necromancer, EU.
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Howdy!
I present you a build which I’ve been using recently when playing/having fun/duelling/roaming on WvWvW.
It’s a Hybrid build using new Trapper Runeset, Longbow, S+D and, yay yay – Remorseless Trait!
This is the “first stage” of the build as I’m not a min/max person, (I would be very happy if someone could optimize the stats etc. ) since I just grabbed all the stuff I had in bank etc. and basically put together.
Currently, Generosity sigil is replaced with Purity, because I didn’t have enough money at once. Major Master in MM can be changed to Eagle Eye, Spotter, Piercing Arrows, depending on situation.
Pets are not “optimized” either, I just like Cave Spider for most of the things and Owl for bursts (could take Siamoth for stealth, but dunno ^^).
That’s said, I got astonishing results from couple hours running this build. Sure, it’s vunerable to any form of chained CC/conditions, but if played patiently, oh boy…
I can stealth at the rate of D/P thief, maintain LOTS of vun on target, 2 stacks of torment, really high bleed damage, burning, CC,poison and tons of kiting.
I can also escape zergs thanks to Super Speed (<3) and stealth provided by traps, I can outrun “runners” in combat, kill almost anything 1vX if played right against regular WvW opponents…
It’s only my first day, but I believe that once I get even familiar, this build will be better predator than Thieves on WvW
Enjoy and I ask you to leave helpful feedback!
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I had the same thought when I saw the new runes! As soon as I craft them I’m going to try out a variation as well. I will probably use the full set of ascended celestial trinkets I have lying around and see how that goes.
I think Healing Power would be a wasted stat here, honestly. It hardly affects TU healing and I don’t have any other source of healing. Tbh, most of the times I find myself sitting around ~80% hp when fighting. You could take something with more toughness/vitality if you like since build is vunerable to CC lock and burst like full Shatter combo or such.
One tip I’ve learned : Unless you’re fighting ranged opponent with no AI, don’t place traps behind yourself/at feet. Spread them and lure foe into them. This way your stealth will last for longer and AI won’t eat the trap damage.
@Sube I don’t like Frost Trap. It’s longer cooldown, does no damage and with ground targeting I can place traps in a pattern which prevents them from triggering too early. As for PO, dunno. So far, I liked Vun because I have 140% duration on it, I’m not losing damage I think. But feel free to test it out!
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I think you have to take frost spirit for it work, so that you have another form of stealth that won’t be broken when you attack (like flame and spike do).
Also you could use frost and spike to proc predators onslaught, which will do more damage than your remorseless opening strikes.
Lovin it too, but with a crit rate of 75% already e.b. does a lot more for me than remorseless.
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75% crit chance ?
By the way, Remorseless is often very underesitmated. That vun increasing your damage output lasts for 14 seconds, allowing you to cap the foe.
I’ve been also considering going for more Ferocity over Precision but I think that Sharpened Edges is really worth it. If you catch someone in Barrage, he often leaves it with 6-10 stacks of bleeding, similar to RF.
I was thinking about going for more condition removal at first, but suprisingly this build deals with them pretty brutally, even P/D Thieves and condi mesmer trolls.
I’ve been playing with this lately and its insane.
Swap out Viper’s nest for Signet of renewal if you need, I personally only use Sigil of cleansing and it works fine for me.
The only duel I lost against was a perma torment scepter mesmer (which is incredibly overpowered if played right).
EDIT People tend to accuse you of hacks because they are not aware that trapper runes exist, LOL. Happened to me twice yesterday. Sweet, sweet tears.
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75% crit chance ?
By the way, Remorseless is often very underesitmated. That vun increasing your damage output lasts for 14 seconds, allowing you to cap the foe.
I’ve been also considering going for more Ferocity over Precision but I think that Sharpened Edges is really worth it. If you catch someone in Barrage, he often leaves it with 6-10 stacks of bleeding, similar to RF.
I was thinking about going for more condition removal at first, but suprisingly this build deals with them pretty brutally, even P/D Thieves and condi mesmer trolls.
55+ fury which has high uptime. And rangers have tons of vulnerability already. Can’t help thinking predator onslaught or read the wind would be a better choice, unless you have a very low crit chance where all the auto crits would really pay off.
Anyone try this in spvp yet? I’ve been wanting to try a trapper build for awhile since the new runes came out.
Anyone try this in spvp yet? I’ve been wanting to try a trapper build for awhile since the new runes came out.
Trapper runes are only avalible in PvE and WvW sadly ;/ .
As for Remorseless replacements – I find RtW to be only good option for this, PO doesn’t have enough uptime, really – Most of people you spot are very mobile, have stealth/huge -condition duration. RtW on the other hand is decent option since it makes your Hunter’s Shot more reliable.
As I said, this build is still “in progress” and I’ll be waiting patiently for some math-min-max genius to fix my stats a little bit, too .
Thanks OP for a great build!
Been running it for two days now. It’s really fun to play and it works really well in both solo roaming and small group roaming especially with full guard stacks and bloodlust.
Is carrion gear or celestial the best for this build?
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Is carrion gear or celestial the best for this build?
Even if the healing power is a bit wasted, I personally find that celestial armor and trinkets with berserker weapons gives the best overall stat spread for my preferences.
Is carrion gear or celestial the best for this build?
Even if the healing power is a bit wasted, I personally find that celestial armor and trinkets with berserker weapons gives the best overall stat spread for my preferences.
would u mind posting a screenshot of your stats? I am trying to decide if it’s worthy to craft celestial armor.
Glad to see you’re enjoying this
One thing I might add: When using Snake trap/Burning trap, try launching your Rapid Fire through that. It’s quite nasty.
I’ve been playing with this lately and its insane.
Swap out Viper’s nest for Signet of renewal if you need, I personally only use Sigil of cleansing and it works fine for me.
The only duel I lost against was a perma torment scepter mesmer (which is incredibly overpowered if played right).
EDIT People tend to accuse you of hacks because they are not aware that trapper runes exist, LOL. Happened to me twice yesterday. Sweet, sweet tears.
Well, you can’t have 2 of the similar runes on your weapons. Your longbow is setup that way and they negate each other.
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I’ve been playing with this lately and its insane.
Swap out Viper’s nest for Signet of renewal if you need, I personally only use Sigil of cleansing and it works fine for me.
The only duel I lost against was a perma torment scepter mesmer (which is incredibly overpowered if played right).
EDIT People tend to accuse you of hacks because they are not aware that trapper runes exist, LOL. Happened to me twice yesterday. Sweet, sweet tears.
Well, you can’t have 2 of the similar runes on your weapons. Your longbow is setup that way and they negate each other.
April 15 feature patch says hi
Just wondering how you handle speed, or does it matter?
Also, do you have to use sword/dagger?
EDIT: Never mind about the speed, I see the new trapper rune set provides that although it seems a bit wonky
EDIT 2: Why not use short bow since this appears to be using conditions
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