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So yeah, stun locking people with stuns and immobs is pretty hilarious… drop a muddy terrain, go behind, hilt bash, mault, swap to SB, concussion shot, spam autos from behind, run away giggling because they’re now dead.

I’ve been doing this in solo arenas quite a bit, I didn’t feel like waiting for you guys to find it, so i just decided to share it.

It’s even more fun to do when you’re running Hyenas, + Drake Hound or spiders. Happy Hunting!

Could you link your build? I’ve been looking for a viable gs/sb set up

infantrydiv.1620:

Could you link your build? I’ve been looking for a viable gs/sb set up

I just kinda threw this one together, didn’t really bother optimizing anything on it, it’s a rough draft if you will, but my god it’s stomping people atm…

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJAVRjEVN2VWSWo2BimCOZJ2jExoF5U4fPVwmI-ToAg0CnIYSxkjJDTSmsMNQYhA

Been using SB/GS for awhile now. I can’t imagine the MoC made it that much more powerful, but I haven’t played Ranger today other than to test a few things. Good to see you enjoy the weapon combo. Using a signet build?

[edit…] just saw your build, so obviously not signet

Atherakhia.4086:

Been using SB/GS for awhile now. I can’t imagine the MoC made it that much more powerful, but I haven’t played Ranger today other than to test a few things. Good to see you enjoy the weapon combo. Using a signet build?

I’m using WS skills actually lol, i was trying out the trait changes (which aren’t shown in the above build), and it gives us two 2s stuns + sig of parylization =4.6s of them being unable to do anything + the immob and knockdowns, it’s mean…. i was using 2 spiders (the ones with 2 immobs) but i felt dirty so i changed to canines.

Durzlla.6295:

Atherakhia.4086:

Been using SB/GS for awhile now. I can’t imagine the MoC made it that much more powerful, but I haven’t played Ranger today other than to test a few things. Good to see you enjoy the weapon combo. Using a signet build?

I’m using WS skills actually lol, i was trying out the trait changes (which aren’t shown in the above build), and it gives us two 2s stuns + sig of parylization =4.6s of them being unable to do anything + the immob and knockdowns, it’s mean…. i was using 2 spiders (the ones with 2 immobs) but i felt dirty so i changed to canines.

2 knockdowns, a fear, and a immob is always more fun

Atherakhia.4086:

Durzlla.6295:

Atherakhia.4086:

Been using SB/GS for awhile now. I can’t imagine the MoC made it that much more powerful, but I haven’t played Ranger today other than to test a few things. Good to see you enjoy the weapon combo. Using a signet build?

I’m using WS skills actually lol, i was trying out the trait changes (which aren’t shown in the above build), and it gives us two 2s stuns + sig of parylization =4.6s of them being unable to do anything + the immob and knockdowns, it’s mean…. i was using 2 spiders (the ones with 2 immobs) but i felt dirty so i changed to canines.

2 knockdowns, a fear, and a immob is always more fun

lol i’m using the hyena so i can have 3 KD and an immob, it’s more fun making them stand still,

Works great on single targets. Fun to roam with especially more zerker like which I still love as a build

I like spider/hyena.
Sometimes catching up to the enemy is a pain and the spider can nail them easier.

New predator instinct shouldn’t be missed now that it is a full 10 sec cripple and now at 50% health. Yeah, I would probably run this a bit more 10/30/30. I should be at peak strength (good luck hitting me if I get this pulled off) more often than not so I would get 10% damage vs the 5% GS damage trait you pull in nature.

The other is 10 pts in BM and get the F2 reduction skill. You can get some fast immobilizes with owls, drakehounds etc. The key seems to be to lock them down with an overwhelming number of immobilizes

why “new” meta? i play a power build with this weapons since 2 month

Bombsaway.7198:

Works great on single targets. Fun to roam with especially more zerker like which I still love as a build

I like spider/hyena.
Sometimes catching up to the enemy is a pain and the spider can nail them easier.

New predator instinct shouldn’t be missed now that it is a full 10 sec cripple and now at 50% health. Yeah, I would probably run this a bit more 10/30/30. I should be at peak strength (good luck hitting me if I get this pulled off) more often than not so I would get 10% damage vs the 5% GS damage trait you pull in nature.

The other is 10 pts in BM and get the F2 reduction skill. You can get some fast immobilizes with owls, drakehounds etc. The key seems to be to lock them down with an overwhelming number of immobilizes

I’ve been running this with 10/30/30 for a while. The problem I find is hilt bash gets eaten by some stun ignoring trait straight away, and your maul does nothing.

Have such a skill at grandmaster really isn’t that useful when we only have 2 stuns.

i been playing SB/GS since ages, i have change sometimes but i always come back to those.

This build is the new meta?!? rofl! come fight me on my trap ranger and ill show you how terrible greatsword still is =D Please stop using longbows and greatswords….they are useless weapons and you silly rangers thinking they can actually help you are just lieing to yourselves. Anet looks at you silly ones and sees that your still running them and thinks oh they must be ok but their not….stop lieing to yourselves guys.

Casey.9687:

This build is the new meta?!? rofl! come fight me on my trap ranger and ill show you how terrible greatsword still is =D Please stop using longbows and greatswords….they are useless weapons and you silly rangers thinking they can actually help you are just lieing to yourselves. Anet looks at you silly ones and sees that your still running them and thinks oh they must be ok but their not….stop lieing to yourselves guys.

lol you still play trapper? i use my sword/horn + axe/torch wvw roaming build and did beat down a trapper + spirit ranger pretty easy in spvp ( my first 3 matches ever yestarday. havent died a single time )

Coarr.3286:

Casey.9687:

This build is the new meta?!? rofl! come fight me on my trap ranger and ill show you how terrible greatsword still is =D Please stop using longbows and greatswords….they are useless weapons and you silly rangers thinking they can actually help you are just lieing to yourselves. Anet looks at you silly ones and sees that your still running them and thinks oh they must be ok but their not….stop lieing to yourselves guys.

lol you still play trapper? i use my sword/horn + axe/torch wvw roaming build and did beat down a trapper + spirit ranger pretty easy in spvp ( my first 3 matches ever yestarday. havent died a single time )

You clearly haven’t fought me yet =D

4,293 hours on ranger 4,326 across all characters. All I ever run is trapper all other builds like this one are just crippling ranger they all still suck. Longbow is still horrible dps. Greatsword can’t hit the broadside of a barn. Spirit Ranger is alright but its the most lazy build I have ever witnessed next to signet warriors….Tired of rangers getting on here and lieing and trying to make the greatsword and longbow into somthing their not….they need fixed, bad. Stop trying to make them work on a build its just down right disappointing

this is the build i did run in spvp yesterday. try it out and have fun. hope you enjoy it

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQRBMhd+1JRFdBHYhlFsWGQaP0EzDTYF4P3D/rTCxSWRUA-TwAAyCnI8S1lrLjXyfs/MWYtwGkJIA

here are my 2 wvw builds.

power:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMQQNBMhF6koiugTswKIWLDItHTi5hJsC8n7h/5JhYJjqC-j0CBYfCiUEIEIRkIAI5pIaslhht6KalXBRXDT5CQFbR1SBYuyI-w

hybrid:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMQQRBMhd+1JRFdBnYhzNsWGQaPmEzDTYF4P3D/rTCxSGVFA-j0CBYiDimgAhAJ0EBBK5rIaslhht6KalXBRLbR1qaA6lYSBAxyI-w

I tried trapper ranger, felt like a watered down necro. Rather play a necro.

funny how ranger has to be this clever to be any serious treat in pvp but any class can be that dangerous (especialy mesmer) without trying…

Casey.9687:

Coarr.3286:

Casey.9687:

This build is the new meta?!? rofl! come fight me on my trap ranger and ill show you how terrible greatsword still is =D Please stop using longbows and greatswords….they are useless weapons and you silly rangers thinking they can actually help you are just lieing to yourselves. Anet looks at you silly ones and sees that your still running them and thinks oh they must be ok but their not….stop lieing to yourselves guys.

lol you still play trapper? i use my sword/horn + axe/torch wvw roaming build and did beat down a trapper + spirit ranger pretty easy in spvp ( my first 3 matches ever yestarday. havent died a single time )

You clearly haven’t fought me yet =D

4,293 hours on ranger 4,326 across all characters. All I ever run is trapper all other builds like this one are just crippling ranger they all still suck. Longbow is still horrible dps. Greatsword can’t hit the broadside of a barn. Spirit Ranger is alright but its the most lazy build I have ever witnessed next to signet warriors….Tired of rangers getting on here and lieing and trying to make the greatsword and longbow into somthing their not….they need fixed, bad. Stop trying to make them work on a build its just down right disappointing

I like that we keep this discussion moving but why the heck get off topic? Rangers need to help rangers, if you want to fight over stuff find yourselves in PvP and work it out, but please come back here and tell us why you won… and none of that ‘uh I am uber good uh look at my skills uh’ crap; give us the build and strategy, why it works for you and why we should care.

I really like GS/SB myself, but I never tried 10/30/30 or 5/30/30/0/5 as in ever, but this is a purely condition damage / stun – root lock approach, does it only work in 1 vs 1 situations? What about team play?

kyubi.3620:

funny how ranger has to be this clever to be any serious treat in pvp but any class can be that dangerous (especialy mesmer) without trying…

Not just in PvP sadly…

Durzlla.6295:

So yeah, stun locking people with stuns and immobs is pretty hilarious… drop a muddy terrain, go behind, hilt bash, mault, swap to SB, concussion shot, spam autos from behind, run away giggling because they’re now dead.

I’ve been doing this in solo arenas quite a bit, I didn’t feel like waiting for you guys to find it, so i just decided to share it.

It’s even more fun to do when you’re running Hyenas, + Drake Hound or spiders. Happy Hunting!

HAHAHA what… you guys just realized this build now? Geez where are all the veteran rangers at in this game? did they all quit? or just keeping quiet in game and not sharing builds?

maybe if youre going to run CC build try running boar too for the stun and knockdown? if you dont mind picking up stuff… or not if you like immobilize spider. mesmer runes for extra daze perhaps if youre power build. But good job sharing this build, I think other Rangers should definitely try.

Casey.9687:

Coarr.3286:

Casey.9687:

This build is the new meta?!? rofl! come fight me on my trap ranger and ill show you how terrible greatsword still is =D Please stop using longbows and greatswords….they are useless weapons and you silly rangers thinking they can actually help you are just lieing to yourselves. Anet looks at you silly ones and sees that your still running them and thinks oh they must be ok but their not….stop lieing to yourselves guys.

lol you still play trapper? i use my sword/horn + axe/torch wvw roaming build and did beat down a trapper + spirit ranger pretty easy in spvp ( my first 3 matches ever yestarday. havent died a single time )

You clearly haven’t fought me yet =D

4,293 hours on ranger 4,326 across all characters. All I ever run is trapper all other builds like this one are just crippling ranger they all still suck. Longbow is still horrible dps. Greatsword can’t hit the broadside of a barn. Spirit Ranger is alright but its the most lazy build I have ever witnessed next to signet warriors….Tired of rangers getting on here and lieing and trying to make the greatsword and longbow into somthing their not….they need fixed, bad. Stop trying to make them work on a build its just down right disappointing

Gratz?

Durzlla.6295:

Atherakhia.4086:

Been using SB/GS for awhile now. I can’t imagine the MoC made it that much more powerful, but I haven’t played Ranger today other than to test a few things. Good to see you enjoy the weapon combo. Using a signet build?

I’m using WS skills actually lol, i was trying out the trait changes (which aren’t shown in the above build), and it gives us two 2s stuns + sig of parylization =4.6s of them being unable to do anything + the immob and knockdowns, it’s mean…. i was using 2 spiders (the ones with 2 immobs) but i felt dirty so i changed to canines.

If you run human, you can use hounds of balthazar in addition to hyena to make it even more painful for your enemy (HoB have the same skillset as normal canine pet with some minor tweaks)

Durzlla.6295:

So yeah, stun locking people with stuns and immobs is pretty hilarious… drop a muddy terrain, go behind, hilt bash, mault, swap to SB, concussion shot, spam autos from behind, run away giggling because they’re now dead.

I’ve been doing this in solo arenas quite a bit, I didn’t feel like waiting for you guys to find it, so i just decided to share it.

It’s even more fun to do when you’re running Hyenas, + Drake Hound or spiders. Happy Hunting!

Who does this work against? Most classes have escapes and invulnerabilities to avoid the initial burst. Otherwise just be a 100b warrior.

Casey.9687:

This build is the new meta?!? rofl! come fight me on my trap ranger and ill show you how terrible greatsword still is =D Please stop using longbows and greatswords….they are useless weapons and you silly rangers thinking they can actually help you are just lieing to yourselves. Anet looks at you silly ones and sees that your still running them and thinks oh they must be ok but their not….stop lieing to yourselves guys.

For one, they’re talking about GS and shortbows, not longbows.

But, I run a power bunker build with GS and Longbow that actually does work, not because the damage is any good, but because the blocks, stuns, knockbacks are great for decapping and for general bunker survivability, plus the invis is a great reset when you need a breather or want to get away with a swap to greatsword and swoop.

Now intersperse all of that with dog pets and you have a lot of cc that can allow you to kill as well even with bunker damage.

Casey.9687:

This build is the new meta?!? rofl! come fight me on my trap ranger and ill show you how terrible greatsword still is =D Please stop using longbows and greatswords….they are useless weapons and you silly rangers thinking they can actually help you are just lieing to yourselves. Anet looks at you silly ones and sees that your still running them and thinks oh they must be ok but their not….stop lieing to yourselves guys.

Dude, trapper builds are a joke vs a LB ranger, I never come close to your silly trap pit and can shoot you outside of your range, it’s sad really watching them so desperately try to both stay near their traps and try and get to me at the same time… And if I’m on my Mesmer I can just throw a worthless scepter clone into your trap pit, and your one trick pony burst is gone and just laugh as you butcher yourself on my confusion and retal…

LB is hardly bad, it can force people off points and provides a lot of damage from range and has a lot of nice tricks you can do with it, and either way this build doesn’t use a LB, it uses a SB and a GS, so I’d suggest you get back on subject, if you wanna debate on the effectiveness of other weapons/builds we can PM, or better yet start up another thread.

@Kilger, yes most classes do have escapes, ranger included, but most BUILDS only have one escape and it’s normally just a stun break, if you’re using immobs + stuns MOST (certainly not all) builds can’t do much against it, and why run 100b when you don’t wanna play warrior?

PS: I’ve been playing ranger since beta, I knew about this build but it really wasn’t worth mentioning until recently.

Durzlla.6295:

Casey.9687:

This build is the new meta?!? rofl! come fight me on my trap ranger and ill show you how terrible greatsword still is =D Please stop using longbows and greatswords….they are useless weapons and you silly rangers thinking they can actually help you are just lieing to yourselves. Anet looks at you silly ones and sees that your still running them and thinks oh they must be ok but their not….stop lieing to yourselves guys.

Dude, trapper builds are a joke vs a LB ranger, I never come close to your silly trap pit and can shoot you outside of your range, it’s sad really watching them so desperately try to both stay near their traps and try and get to me at the same time… And if I’m on my Mesmer I can just throw a worthless scepter clone into your trap pit, and your one trick pony burst is gone and just laugh as you butcher yourself on my confusion and retal…

LB is hardly bad, it can force people off points and provides a lot of damage from range and has a lot of nice tricks you can do with it, and either way this build doesn’t use a LB, it uses a SB and a GS, so I’d suggest you get back on subject, if you wanna debate on the effectiveness of other weapons/builds we can PM, or better yet start up another thread.

@Kilger, yes most classes do have escapes, ranger included, but most BUILDS only have one escape and it’s normally just a stun break, if you’re using immobs + stuns MOST (certainly not all) builds can’t do much against it, and why run 100b when you don’t wanna play warrior?

PS: I’ve been playing ranger since beta, I knew about this build but it really wasn’t worth mentioning until recently.

AAAAHHHHH… no problem, I guess veterans really are keeping quiet. I know that youre talking about the new moment of clarity thats why you’re posting interrupt build.

To trap rangers… LOL! get on board with power ranger, cause trap ranger vs ranger? I can just command my pet to go eat your traps and there goes your burst. LOL

Oh god… Incoming nerf to skull crack…. 6s stun CLEARLY isn’t broken, nope…. Not at all…

@AEFA, yeah normally I guard my builds with my life, but I really wanna see rangers get vengeance on the other professions now so I figured I’d start sharing anything I come up with that is working very well for me lol.

PS: it’s on the boar, whose AI likes to knock people down right as their stun is about to end because apparently boars are kitten holes

Durzlla.6295:

Oh god… Incoming nerf to skull crack…. 6s stun CLEARLY isn’t broken, nope…. Not at all…

@AEFA, yeah normally I guard my builds with my life, but I really wanna see rangers get vengeance on the other professions now so I figured I’d start sharing anything I come up with that is working very well for me lol.

PS: it’s on the boar, whose AI likes to knock people down right as their stun is about to end because apparently boars are kitten holes

this is what im wondering, if someone can clarify this. since our stuns are 100% increased on moment of clarity trait. would skull crack give 6s stun? LOL!

Only problem is getting crappy way the system is designed in the first place.

AEFA.9035:

Durzlla.6295:

Oh god… Incoming nerf to skull crack…. 6s stun CLEARLY isn’t broken, nope…. Not at all…

@AEFA, yeah normally I guard my builds with my life, but I really wanna see rangers get vengeance on the other professions now so I figured I’d start sharing anything I come up with that is working very well for me lol.

PS: it’s on the boar, whose AI likes to knock people down right as their stun is about to end because apparently boars are kitten holes

this is what im wondering, if someone can clarify this. since our stuns are 100% increased on moment of clarity trait. would skull crack give 6s stun? LOL!

It is…. Static field on LH is a 4s stun too, me and an ele ran around in Hotjoin late last night delivering swift and broken justice to all who opposed us lol…

I stun locked someone in a 1v1 for 11.5s… Poor kitten wasted his stun break on Sir Oinks Alots charge…. He will never make that mistake again that’s for sure…

I don’t think its working on the f2 abilities Durzlla

I just tested it, and still was only getting the base time with the Stuns

However i did notice that they didn’t separate the 100% duration increase on Stun and Dazes, You get 100% increase on both, Technobabble Daze is 6 seconds now.

edit

Testing it some more, that bloody fear is working that’s for sure, bloody 7 seconds long.

That fear is just silly, its 9 seconds if you got 30 points in Marksman + Rare Veggie Pizza, I’m tempted to just use that when defending keeps to be a prick.

Umm… its working all disables, and pet abilities too..? Thats gonna get nerfed. Until then I might have a little fun too…

It works on that boars Fear.

I was fighting a necro, popped that ability, and killed him while ran into a wall for 9 seconds.

I’m pretty sure he slit his wrist afterward from dying to a ranger via Fear

Warriors will ignore you with berserker stance , necros will demolish you with conditions and deathshroud , you cant really touch engis and mesmers are the best 1v1 class in the game . Thiefs will kill you in 10 seconds . What does that leave ? Guardians that are the best bunker against whom you will never get a decap and elementalists who rarely see play

Chokolata.1870:

Warriors will ignore you with berserker stance , necros will demolish you with conditions and deathshroud , you cant really touch engis and mesmers are the best 1v1 class in the game . Thiefs will kill you in 10 seconds . What does that leave ? Guardians that are the best bunker against whom you will never get a decap and elementalists who rarely see play

LOL! at this guy. Please someone, give this guy a medal.

oh wow can someone pls make a video for those who wouldnt believe. you know how ranger community are, they dont believe it till they see it.

Im going to try this out

Terravos.4059:

It works on that boars Fear.

I was fighting a necro, popped that ability, and killed him while ran into a wall for 9 seconds.

I’m pretty sure he slit his wrist afterward from dying to a ranger via Fear

I only got 7.5 seconds of fear on mine btw, howd you get your fear that high? lol. my build was 10-30-30-0-0 on ranger.

hmmm……..I’m tempted.

Durzlla.6295:

So yeah, stun locking people with stuns and immobs is pretty hilarious… drop a muddy terrain, go behind, hilt bash, mault, swap to SB, concussion shot, spam autos from behind, run away giggling because they’re now dead.

I’ve been doing this in solo arenas quite a bit, I didn’t feel like waiting for you guys to find it, so i just decided to share it.

It’s even more fun to do when you’re running Hyenas, + Drake Hound or spiders. Happy Hunting!

Question is, are you just that good or is it that you’ve been wrecking all those new pvers fresh off the auto attack zerg train?

AEFA.9035:

Terravos.4059:

It works on that boars Fear.

I was fighting a necro, popped that ability, and killed him while ran into a wall for 9 seconds.

I’m pretty sure he slit his wrist afterward from dying to a ranger via Fear

I only got 7.5 seconds of fear on mine btw, howd you get your fear that high? lol. my build was 10-30-30-0-0 on ranger.

Condition Duration increases the duration of fear.

get 70% with 30 in Marksman (which I was running at the time) and rare veggie pizza

Durzlla.6295:

AEFA.9035:

Durzlla.6295:

Oh god… Incoming nerf to skull crack…. 6s stun CLEARLY isn’t broken, nope…. Not at all…

@AEFA, yeah normally I guard my builds with my life, but I really wanna see rangers get vengeance on the other professions now so I figured I’d start sharing anything I come up with that is working very well for me lol.

PS: it’s on the boar, whose AI likes to knock people down right as their stun is about to end because apparently boars are kitten holes

this is what im wondering, if someone can clarify this. since our stuns are 100% increased on moment of clarity trait. would skull crack give 6s stun? LOL!

It is…. Static field on LH is a 4s stun too, me and an ele ran around in Hotjoin late last night delivering swift and broken justice to all who opposed us lol…

I stun locked someone in a 1v1 for 11.5s… Poor kitten wasted his stun break on Sir Oinks Alots charge…. He will never make that mistake again that’s for sure…

Durrz, am i guessing right that you are using a boar? If so, how about adding a Moa in there too. That daze gonna be kitten annoying.

Chokolata.1870:

Warriors will ignore you with berserker stance , necros will demolish you with conditions and deathshroud , you cant really touch engis and mesmers are the best 1v1 class in the game . Thiefs will kill you in 10 seconds . What does that leave ? Guardians that are the best bunker against whom you will never get a decap and elementalists who rarely see play

Pretty much this. GS and Longbow are still weak weapons anyway, the patch didnt change that.

short-medium range longbow hits like wet noodle , now its a 20% stronger wet noodle .

Longbow will never work as a competitive weapon because of reasons.. which are :

1)it is a pure power weapon and thus …

2)it needs to do a lot of reliable damage in a short time frame , which it does not and…

3)even if it did the ranger has no innate sustain options like ele switching to water , thief stealth , guardian blocks/aegis , mesmer clones and stealth and whatnot … hence

4)you need to support it with utilities for damage avoidance all of which you have 2.5 (LR traited stone signet and protect me ), and EVEN if all of this worked…..

5)your damage is subtracted because you have a pet , and even if you take a dps pet to match other berserker builds in burst you cant make it hit reliably which….

6)pushes you towards a damage over time spec which is….

7)conditions as they are much more efficient at bunkering then power bunkers because you need 1 offensive stat at which….

8)the ranger is actually quite solid at !!!

Conclusion :
-LB is not a damage weapon , it is a utility weapon with nothing to support . The only real 2 options would be traps , which are bad and LB is not a condition weapon to my great grief ( at least a hybrid ) , and pets in a BM build at which both the axe/torch or shortbow are far superior as options
-ranger utilities being poor at saving yourself at clutch moments and having a pet damage penalty punishes pushing power stats making inefficient on ranger

I hope this changes , I hope we get more options but as it stands we are pushed into a tanky support role that can duel reliably if condi bunker , for better or for worse . Traps are so last year because they got no boost while there was a major power creep with the other classes , especially since a major component of trapper got nuked ( shortbow mega nerf ) .

my brain puked too much thoughts , sry

Prysin.8542:

Durzlla.6295:

AEFA.9035:

Durzlla.6295:

Oh god… Incoming nerf to skull crack…. 6s stun CLEARLY isn’t broken, nope…. Not at all…

@AEFA, yeah normally I guard my builds with my life, but I really wanna see rangers get vengeance on the other professions now so I figured I’d start sharing anything I come up with that is working very well for me lol.

PS: it’s on the boar, whose AI likes to knock people down right as their stun is about to end because apparently boars are kitten holes

this is what im wondering, if someone can clarify this. since our stuns are 100% increased on moment of clarity trait. would skull crack give 6s stun? LOL!

It is…. Static field on LH is a 4s stun too, me and an ele ran around in Hotjoin late last night delivering swift and broken justice to all who opposed us lol…

I stun locked someone in a 1v1 for 11.5s… Poor kitten wasted his stun break on Sir Oinks Alots charge…. He will never make that mistake again that’s for sure…

Durrz, am i guessing right that you are using a boar? If so, how about adding a Moa in there too. That daze gonna be kitten annoying.

The only reason it works with boar CCs is because it’s an environmental item, normal pet skills do not gaint he bonus, god i wish they did..

Swagger.1459:

Durzlla.6295:

So yeah, stun locking people with stuns and immobs is pretty hilarious… drop a muddy terrain, go behind, hilt bash, mault, swap to SB, concussion shot, spam autos from behind, run away giggling because they’re now dead.

I’ve been doing this in solo arenas quite a bit, I didn’t feel like waiting for you guys to find it, so i just decided to share it.

It’s even more fun to do when you’re running Hyenas, + Drake Hound or spiders. Happy Hunting!

Question is, are you just that good or is it that you’ve been wrecking all those new pvers fresh off the auto attack zerg train?

Could be, idk how good everyone else, we’re all at the same rank now i believe…

Chokolata.1870:

short-medium range longbow hits like wet noodle , now its a 20% stronger wet noodle .

Longbow will never work as a competitive weapon because of reasons.. which are :

1)it is a pure power weapon and thus …

2)it needs to do a lot of reliable damage in a short time frame , which it does not and…

3)even if it did the ranger has no innate sustain options like ele switching to water , thief stealth , guardian blocks/aegis , mesmer clones and stealth and whatnot … hence

4)you need to support it with utilities for damage avoidance all of which you have 2.5 (LR traited stone signet and protect me ), and EVEN if all of this worked…..

5)your damage is subtracted because you have a pet , and even if you take a dps pet to match other berserker builds in burst you cant make it hit reliably which….

6)pushes you towards a damage over time spec which is….

7)conditions as they are much more efficient at bunkering then power bunkers because you need 1 offensive stat at which….

8)the ranger is actually quite solid at !!!

Conclusion :
-LB is not a damage weapon , it is a utility weapon with nothing to support . The only real 2 options would be traps , which are bad and LB is not a condition weapon to my great grief ( at least a hybrid ) , and pets in a BM build at which both the axe/torch or shortbow are far superior as options
-ranger utilities being poor at saving yourself at clutch moments and having a pet damage penalty punishes pushing power stats making inefficient on ranger

I hope this changes , I hope we get more options but as it stands we are pushed into a tanky support role that can duel reliably if condi bunker , for better or for worse . Traps are so last year because they got no boost while there was a major power creep with the other classes , especially since a major component of trapper got nuked ( shortbow mega nerf ) .

my brain puked too much thoughts , sry

I dont understand why is a bad thing that is a pure power Weapon..
Anyway..
I think that the dmg from Longbow is totally viable. It doesnt hit like a wet nooble at all..
In my spvp experience i often see 3-4 k from autoattacks and 10k from rapid fire..
Also it got the best defensive-offensive mechanic in the game..Stealth.
Ppl keep underestimating the stealth, you should had played WoW were if you got hitted you lose stealth and in stealth you were moving 50% slower..
Barrage hits for like 800-1200, from 1500 range, with a safe after stealth cast, combined with river drakes F2 its a big deal guys…

Longbow requires to keep positioning yourself, thats why ppl are having a hard time with it imo..If you learn to play behind pillars you are totally untargetable while you can do dmg from a safe distance

Actually what hold power Rangers back imo was..
The active cond removal, many cond spamming from freaking Necros-Engi.

Conditions are toned down across all classes imo..Thats what i feel from playing spvp since patch..Eles and Mesmers are coming back to the game…There was a time when Rangers didnt even touch Empathetic bond and they were totally ok..

More power builds will shown up imo..
Ive tried spirits and i feel that im not a threat but mostly i support my team..Ive tried BM and i have no Aoe dmg at all..In teamfights im worthless…
Ive tried power zerker Longbow Ranger and i feel that i destroy every Mesmer-Necro-Thief-Hambow Warrior and i eat 50% of this Guardian and force him to use his CD

Dardamaniac.1295:

Ive tried spirits and i feel that im not a threat but mostly i support my team..Ive tried BM and i have no Aoe dmg at all..In teamfights im worthless…
Ive tried power zerker Longbow Ranger and i feel that i destroy every Mesmer-Necro-Thief-Hambow Warrior and i eat 50% of this Guardian and force him to use his CD

you talk about spvp or tpvp?
cause i dont know any team that ever said ohhh my good the longbow ranger hurts us so hard. this weapon can pressure on a point, but i never saw a lb ranger that can beat me or good player that i know in tpvp/spvp or in wvw

Bambula.3649:

Dardamaniac.1295:

Ive tried spirits and i feel that im not a threat but mostly i support my team..Ive tried BM and i have no Aoe dmg at all..In teamfights im worthless…
Ive tried power zerker Longbow Ranger and i feel that i destroy every Mesmer-Necro-Thief-Hambow Warrior and i eat 50% of this Guardian and force him to use his CD

you talk about spvp or tpvp?
cause i dont know any team that ever said ohhh my good the longbow ranger hurts us so hard. this weapon can pressure on a point, but i never saw a lb ranger that can beat me or good player that i know in tpvp/spvp or in wvw

At point blank my auto is critting consecutively for 1.1k-1.7k damage against guardians who have no vuln on them, then there’s also my pet, the whole I can barrage the point, knock people off etc.

Just because LB isn’t easy enough to be played well by the masses doesn’t mean it’s bad, I mean kitten, look at ele at launch, the were “the worst prof in game” and then over night (with no buffs) they became absolutely OP and wrecked everything in tPvP.

The LB is REALLY strong in tPvP, it’s just harder to play than the auto attack spam shortbow that every idiot and their dog plays instead.

I disagree with longbow not being a viable weapon, but I do agree with it not being a great weapon either. Longbow is all about positioning and back lining yourself, which is nice but it’s not very reliable. Besides come on people, if you have played ranger for long enough you should know we truly are a mid-ranged combat specialist. I get that long bow itself is useful and if done right it can serve its purpose quite nicely, but outside dungeons/fractals/pve, I haven’t had it shine anywhere near PvP or WvW consistently enough for me to say that this weapon rocks.

Nevertheless, all this chat we’ve been having about longbow does illustrate a couple of points regarding how ranger could use more work regarding its combat synergy. You can’t expect people to enjoy a pure power build weapon, when the power build itself is unreliable.

Regarding pets, I get that super multi tasking isn’t for everyone, especially when the pet AI system doesn’t feel polished, but just do what I do: practice, practice, practice. It’s not like we are getting a fix on this part anytime soon.