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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

Actually what hold power Rangers back imo was..
The active cond removal, many cond spamming from freaking Necros-Engi.

Conditions are toned down across all classes imo..Thats what i feel from playing spvp since patch..Eles and Mesmers are coming back to the game…There was a time when Rangers didnt even touch Empathetic bond and they were totally ok..

More power builds will shown up imo..
Ive tried spirits and i feel that im not a threat but mostly i support my team..Ive tried BM and i have no Aoe dmg at all..In teamfights im worthless…
Ive tried power zerker Longbow Ranger and i feel that i destroy every Mesmer-Necro-Thief-Hambow Warrior and i eat 50% of this Guardian and force him to use his CD

i never touched EB even during this so called condition meta, yet, i had no issues with conditions. Wanna know how? Because i killed whatever was after me before they could pile on too many conditions, and because i got something called “healing Spring” which is good even in solo situations. TU is seriously over-rated

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

Actually what hold power Rangers back imo was..
The active cond removal, many cond spamming from freaking Necros-Engi.

Conditions are toned down across all classes imo..Thats what i feel from playing spvp since patch..Eles and Mesmers are coming back to the game…There was a time when Rangers didnt even touch Empathetic bond and they were totally ok..

More power builds will shown up imo..
Ive tried spirits and i feel that im not a threat but mostly i support my team..Ive tried BM and i have no Aoe dmg at all..In teamfights im worthless…
Ive tried power zerker Longbow Ranger and i feel that i destroy every Mesmer-Necro-Thief-Hambow Warrior and i eat 50% of this Guardian and force him to use his CD

i never touched EB even during this so called condition meta, yet, i had no issues with conditions. Wanna know how? Because i killed whatever was after me before they could pile on too many conditions, and because i got something called “healing Spring” which is good even in solo situations. TU is seriously over-rated

Omg, i’m not alone? I’m not alone!! It’s amazing! I thought i was the only ranger brave enough (or maybe stupid enough) to avoid EB like the plague xD.

I also found that out ranging people with the longbow does a really good job at stopping condis from killing you.

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: Dardamaniac.1295

Dardamaniac.1295

I feel that Healing spring pays off for tanky builds..Standing on a water field waiting for regen to tick-condition to be cleansed and using leap finishers on it sometimes its dangerous…
With glassy builds i prefer Heal As One..Even if it has a casting time i use it after i found a safe place..Or after i stealthed with Longbow

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

I feel that Healing spring pays off for tanky builds..Standing on a water field waiting for regen to tick-condition to be cleansed and using leap finishers on it sometimes its dangerous…
With glassy builds i prefer Heal As One..Even if it has a casting time i use it after i found a safe place..Or after i stealthed with Longbow

The trick to using healing spring as a squishy build is to actually dance in and out of it imo, most people will only try and nuke the spring if you’re standing in it so if you jump in and out of it (try and time it so you gain the condo cleanse and regen at the same time) then it’ll be a relatively safe area and you’ll get plenty of healing.

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: Dardamaniac.1295

Dardamaniac.1295

Actually what hold power Rangers back imo was..
The active cond removal, many cond spamming from freaking Necros-Engi.

Conditions are toned down across all classes imo..Thats what i feel from playing spvp since patch..Eles and Mesmers are coming back to the game…There was a time when Rangers didnt even touch Empathetic bond and they were totally ok..

More power builds will shown up imo..
Ive tried spirits and i feel that im not a threat but mostly i support my team..Ive tried BM and i have no Aoe dmg at all..In teamfights im worthless…
Ive tried power zerker Longbow Ranger and i feel that i destroy every Mesmer-Necro-Thief-Hambow Warrior and i eat 50% of this Guardian and force him to use his CD

i never touched EB even during this so called condition meta, yet, i had no issues with conditions. Wanna know how? Because i killed whatever was after me before they could pile on too many conditions, and because i got something called “healing Spring” which is good even in solo situations. TU is seriously over-rated

Omg, i’m not alone? I’m not alone!! It’s amazing! I thought i was the only ranger brave enough (or maybe stupid enough) to avoid EB like the plague xD.

I also found that out ranging people with the longbow does a really good job at stopping condis from killing you.

Yep..And Necros dont have strong gap closers…Unlike Rangers who can go from 0 to 1500 and the opposite in no time..
I think is a good era for Rangers in tPvP at last..

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Posted by: Noobie.1073

Noobie.1073

I’ve used a similar build for a few months now and the update to moment of clarity only makes this build more viable. Have you tried using Superior sigil of ice on SB? That chill makes people hate you even more than the stuns and immobs. Chill is uber effective when kiting cause people’s CDs are 66% slower. Can’t recall how many times people have died waiting for their heal to pop again. Not to mention being able to flank easily for the extra bleed damage on SB will force most people to burn those condition removals or heals. I run a 10/30/30/0/0 and have had loads of fun.

I do find that this build is not group friendly as neither weapon is really a group weapon. SB is a single target weapon and GS is mostly used as defensive weapon so it’s fun in 1v1 or 1v2 situations but beyond that, It’s not too effective outside of roaming.

The few trappers/BM rangers I’ve ran into just didn’t have enough condition clear and damage to deal with all the stuns, immobs, fear, and chills to be effective. Of course, being a ranger myself, i know that once the pet is dead, BM rangers are pretty much sitting ducks.

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Posted by: mistsim.2748

mistsim.2748

and in what fantasy are you landing your GS #5?

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Posted by: Soilder.3607

Soilder.3607

and in what fantasy are you landing your GS #5?

In what noobish land are you not landing your GS #5?

Stormbluff Isle

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

Atherakhia.4086

and in what fantasy are you landing your GS #5?

In what noobish land are you not landing your GS #5?

In the land of people moving in the same direction at me

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

and in what fantasy are you landing your GS #5?

In what noobish land are you not landing your GS #5?

In the land of people moving in the same direction at me

Well you kinda lunge forward as you use it, not to mention you can use it while moving and you should have swiftness going so long as you’re using your weapon swap, so idk how anyone can’t be landing it…. I didn’t even know that was an issue…

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: NemesiS.6749

NemesiS.6749

you guys think i can use this in fractals and dungeons? This build seem like it might be useful in wvw kinda but well i hate having to respec all the time. If not well ill stay with the build everyone kinda use for PvE with spotter and all that

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Posted by: AEFA.9035

AEFA.9035

I’ve used a similar build for a few months now and the update to moment of clarity only makes this build more viable. Have you tried using Superior sigil of ice on SB? That chill makes people hate you even more than the stuns and immobs. Chill is uber effective when kiting cause people’s CDs are 66% slower. Can’t recall how many times people have died waiting for their heal to pop again. Not to mention being able to flank easily for the extra bleed damage on SB will force most people to burn those condition removals or heals. I run a 10/30/30/0/0 and have had loads of fun.

This exactly, not a lot of people are running Chill builds on Ranger. I’ve been experimenting on Chill build as well and I find it pretty viable on kiting. If you’re a Ranger who prefer shortbow and longbow I suggest you try chill either on pet or on sigil. The problem with chill in game though is that the duration is too short. Hope we can have more of this in the future though.

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Posted by: Rivebise.2354

Rivebise.2354

The longbow / greatsword never had a place in tPvP (only during last week for longbow).

All is vain

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Posted by: Elcoyote solitaire.9052

Elcoyote solitaire.9052

sPvP build for ranger:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJARTjIV91BWKWo2Bili9IomCO1f2DDx/HlyHWCZZA-TwAA1CtIoSRljKDVSqsUNKYRyJgXAA

PvE build for ranger:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJARVjIV91FWKWo2Bili9EomiM1f2DDhoHlyHWCZZA-jADBYfBiCIZUEAUGQpQFRjtMsIasKZIKkYKXpW7KQWdAGxSziAUmD-e

Strange thing is that i can survive/kill in any situation in PvE, but i can not kill nor survive vs thief and warrior in sPvP anymore.

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Posted by: Dardamaniac.1295

Dardamaniac.1295

sPvP build for ranger:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJARTjIV91BWKWo2Bili9IomCO1f2DDx/HlyHWCZZA-TwAA1CtIoSRljKDVSqsUNKYRyJgXAA

PvE build for ranger:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJARVjIV91FWKWo2Bili9EomiM1f2DDhoHlyHWCZZA-jADBYfBiCIZUEAUGQpQFRjtMsIasKZIKkYKXpW7KQWdAGxSziAUmD-e

Strange thing is that i can survive/kill in any situation in PvE, but i can not kill nor survive vs thief and warrior in sPvP anymore.

You picked trap potency trait by mistake in the spvp build..
Y man i feel you..Thieves are totally destroying us….If you dont play settlers you are totally wrecked..
Some devs play thief, while noone play Ranger in spvp……So they dont know what is like

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

sPvP build for ranger:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJARTjIV91BWKWo2Bili9IomCO1f2DDx/HlyHWCZZA-TwAA1CtIoSRljKDVSqsUNKYRyJgXAA

PvE build for ranger:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJARVjIV91FWKWo2Bili9EomiM1f2DDhoHlyHWCZZA-jADBYfBiCIZUEAUGQpQFRjtMsIasKZIKkYKXpW7KQWdAGxSziAUmD-e

Strange thing is that i can survive/kill in any situation in PvE, but i can not kill nor survive vs thief and warrior in sPvP anymore.

You picked trap potency trait by mistake in the spvp build..
Y man i feel you..Thieves are totally destroying us….If you dont play settlers you are totally wrecked..
Some devs play thief, while noone play Ranger in spvp……So they dont know what is like

You can do EXTREMELY well against thieves as a ranger with both the bows, keep them away from you, you probably can’t win in a direct Melee vs Melee fight but you will ALWAYS outclass them at ranged vs ranged.

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Posted by: Dardamaniac.1295

Dardamaniac.1295

sPvP build for ranger:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJARTjIV91BWKWo2Bili9IomCO1f2DDx/HlyHWCZZA-TwAA1CtIoSRljKDVSqsUNKYRyJgXAA

PvE build for ranger:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJARVjIV91FWKWo2Bili9EomiM1f2DDhoHlyHWCZZA-jADBYfBiCIZUEAUGQpQFRjtMsIasKZIKkYKXpW7KQWdAGxSziAUmD-e

Strange thing is that i can survive/kill in any situation in PvE, but i can not kill nor survive vs thief and warrior in sPvP anymore.

You picked trap potency trait by mistake in the spvp build..
Y man i feel you..Thieves are totally destroying us….If you dont play settlers you are totally wrecked..
Some devs play thief, while noone play Ranger in spvp……So they dont know what is like

You can do EXTREMELY well against thieves as a ranger with both the bows, keep them away from you, you probably can’t win in a direct Melee vs Melee fight but you will ALWAYS outclass them at ranged vs ranged.

Thats what im trying to do but they got like a million gap closers..Ive seen thiefs waste 2-3 heartseekers just to reach me…the problem is that if you make a mistake and one of them hits you, its like 5k dmg…….And i dont want to talk about the S/D ones….Its just that thieves have forgiving zerker builds while Rangers have a really tough one.And im not really sure that a perfectly played Power Ranger>medium played Spirit Ranger..I tend to believe that medium Spirit Ranger>perfectly Power Ranger

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

sPvP build for ranger:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJARTjIV91BWKWo2Bili9IomCO1f2DDx/HlyHWCZZA-TwAA1CtIoSRljKDVSqsUNKYRyJgXAA

PvE build for ranger:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJARVjIV91FWKWo2Bili9EomiM1f2DDhoHlyHWCZZA-jADBYfBiCIZUEAUGQpQFRjtMsIasKZIKkYKXpW7KQWdAGxSziAUmD-e

Strange thing is that i can survive/kill in any situation in PvE, but i can not kill nor survive vs thief and warrior in sPvP anymore.

You picked trap potency trait by mistake in the spvp build..
Y man i feel you..Thieves are totally destroying us….If you dont play settlers you are totally wrecked..
Some devs play thief, while noone play Ranger in spvp……So they dont know what is like

You can do EXTREMELY well against thieves as a ranger with both the bows, keep them away from you, you probably can’t win in a direct Melee vs Melee fight but you will ALWAYS outclass them at ranged vs ranged.

Thats what im trying to do but they got like a million gap closers..Ive seen thiefs waste 2-3 heartseekers just to reach me…the problem is that if you make a mistake and one of them hits you, its like 5k dmg…….And i dont want to talk about the S/D ones….Its just that thieves have forgiving zerker builds while Rangers have a really tough one.And im not really sure that a perfectly played Power Ranger>medium played Spirit Ranger..I tend to believe that medium Spirit Ranger>perfectly Power Ranger

Vs thieves id say you’re right (unless I get the opening shot from 1.5k away), but that’s because thieves just do well against any zerker that’s not in plate mail.

And I’d agree that thieves zerker build is a lot more forgiving due to almost all their burst skills giving them evade as they spam it (which is annoying as hell), rangers gotta kite well to win with zerker.

PS: keeping them perma crippled (or chilled) really hinders most Melee profs gap closers and makes them a lot less threatening, so if you’re zerker make sure you’re using those!

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: Bambula.3649

Bambula.3649

and stay into your pet..and dont send your pet to him for a free cnd thats just stupid, if you move into yourpet and dance a bit into and arround him. thiefs have often problems to hit you and not your pet

i do it with every ranger build, dont care about bunker,trapper..etc it´s just dmg that i not get :p

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Posted by: Bombsaway.7198

Bombsaway.7198

LB and SB are both viable now.

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Posted by: Bambula.3649

Bambula.3649

not sure if you rly can say it right now..we should wait 2 weeks but i´m not rly sure if its viable now cause i dont see why

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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

Chokolata.1870

LB and SB are both equally crap now

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Posted by: Battosai.5620

Battosai.5620

power ranger is not quite there yet – sure, it’s decent for hotjoins and against less experienced players, but still lacking.

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Posted by: Lunchbox.9543

Lunchbox.9543

This build is the new meta?!? rofl! come fight me on my trap ranger and ill show you how terrible greatsword still is =D Please stop using longbows and greatswords….they are useless weapons and you silly rangers thinking they can actually help you are just lieing to yourselves. Anet looks at you silly ones and sees that your still running them and thinks oh they must be ok but their not….stop lieing to yourselves guys.

lol you still play trapper? i use my sword/horn + axe/torch wvw roaming build and did beat down a trapper + spirit ranger pretty easy in spvp ( my first 3 matches ever yestarday. havent died a single time )

You clearly haven’t fought me yet =D

4,293 hours on ranger 4,326 across all characters. All I ever run is trapper all other builds like this one are just crippling ranger they all still suck. Longbow is still horrible dps. Greatsword can’t hit the broadside of a barn. Spirit Ranger is alright but its the most lazy build I have ever witnessed next to signet warriors….Tired of rangers getting on here and lieing and trying to make the greatsword and longbow into somthing their not….they need fixed, bad. Stop trying to make them work on a build its just down right disappointing

Gratz?

Taking into account the three-day head start weekend, if this person played since launch, then that is 9 hours on the Ranger per day.

To put that in perspective, using the current minimum wage in Ontario, you would have made a little over $44.000 before taxes over the past one and quarter year as an adult or $41,200 as a student.

Regardless, if Action 52 has any lesson to impart. quality > quantity.

“I’m doing good in the game, so I’m doing good in life!”
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Posted by: Dardamaniac.1295

Dardamaniac.1295

Actually ive tried this build and i found it kinda viable..Nice 1v1 with nice CC…Its not a bursty build but has more activeness than spirits for sure..
It requires more than just autoattacking..

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQJAVRjEVR29VWWs2Bi2jMZJMxewfGtoXh0fylOxE-ToAg0CnI0RFkLIjOycs5MEZJC

Anyway..I dont know if its viable in high end pvp but its more fun….Maybe when Anet decides to put some more active cond removal option we will be able to try out more builds….For now whatever we want to do we must do it with Empathetic Bond..