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Posted by: HoboLyra.4908

HoboLyra.4908

Can’t revive defeated allies? wasn’t that the whole kitten point in dungeons, especially during boss battles? The Downed window is so short in some cases that the skill has almost no time to be utilized, so the defeated res was the real help.

Well, guess I won’t be running this as much if at all in fractals/dungeons.

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Posted by: stale.9785

stale.9785

Yep – I never ran it before, and I will most certainly never run it now. Go look at the warrior updates, then ours. Then go smash our head against a wall. Whee!

Not that I’m not grateful for what we did get, but compared to the continued wammo love, I’m feeling like a redheaded step-child.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

Um… 1) there’s no Wammos in this game, or are you talking about Guardians? and 2) If you honestly used this skill in order to rez people that are defeated i think you’re doing it wrong, i’ve never had issues getting friends up from the Downed state with it (post bug fix)

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Posted by: Leo G.4501

Leo G.4501

Lol thanks for insulting people that know how to use a utility skill.

I used S&R all the time and the only issue I had with it is the pet might try to rez a dead NPC nearby instead of the downed teammember a bit beyond them. I can still use it to rez someone faster or when they are in a spot I don’t feel is safe for myself. Although half the time I’d just use it to rez while I kept kiting (as I run Knights/Soldier gear) or attacking.

This update though, it removes alot of the functionality I got out of this skill. I could use it to rez a dead NPC that was holding everything up without risking my bacon, for instance. I guess the only option there is the elite.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

Lol thanks for insulting people that know how to use a utility skill.

I used S&R all the time and the only issue I had with it is the pet might try to rez a dead NPC nearby instead of the downed teammember a bit beyond them. I can still use it to rez someone faster or when they are in a spot I don’t feel is safe for myself. Although half the time I’d just use it to rez while I kept kiting (as I run Knights/Soldier gear) or attacking.

This update though, it removes alot of the functionality I got out of this skill. I could use it to rez a dead NPC that was holding everything up without risking my bacon, for instance. I guess the only option there is the elite.

NPCs tend to not be considered “Defeated” when dead if they’re rezable, i’m pretty sure they’re considered “downed” which is why ALL rezes are able to get them up when they’re lying their dead.

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: Ursan.7846

Ursan.7846

This is a pretty big nerf to SnR. The whole point of combat rezzes is that they can be done “safely.” When using SnR, the pet is anything but safe. Before, monsters de-aggroed on defeated players and so made this very safe. Not anymore though. It’s not a guaranteed rez.

However, I do remember people saying that pets can SnR through death. I never got around to testing it, but if that is true, I won’t mind this nerf too much.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

This is a pretty big nerf to SnR. The whole point of combat rezzes is that they can be done “safely.” When using SnR, the pet is anything but safe. Before, monsters de-aggroed on defeated players and so made this very safe. Not anymore though. It’s not a guaranteed rez.

However, I do remember people saying that pets can SnR through death. I never got around to testing it, but if that is true, I won’t mind this nerf too much.

If the pet is told to SnR and begins rezzing before it dies it will continue to rez at the full heal (unless this was changed, it might’ve been i haven’t tested this recently).

You can also tell your pet to go rez while your pet is CURRENTLY DEAD for about half what it’ll do when it’s alive.

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: Zorby.8236

Zorby.8236

I’ve tried SnR a few times now on Lupi (one of the few places it was really handy) and my pet’s never started ressing if it was downed (it used to work back in the days though), it’ll run over to an ally though, but will do nothing. Same if it gets swiped during ress. With a 90s cooldown it was pretty prone to be a wasted slot before. And now it won’t ress defeated allies? I think I’ll stop slotting it ever…

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Posted by: Chopps.5047

Chopps.5047

Yep – I never ran it before, and I will most certainly never run it now. Go look at the warrior updates, then ours. Then go smash our head against a wall. Whee!

Not that I’m not grateful for what we did get, but compared to the continued wammo love, I’m feeling like a redheaded step-child.

Sorry but warriors were in much worse shape than rangers considering they were at a point where no one took them into spvp. Rangers are awesome. You should play a profession that fits your playstyle.

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Posted by: SaraFjellskoge.4168

SaraFjellskoge.4168

I cannot believe Anet said they want to help rangers be more useful in dungeons, and then go and nerf the most useful dungeon utility. I’m just… speechless.

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Posted by: thefantasticg.3984

thefantasticg.3984

This kitten me off so bad. It was literally at my fingers every dungeon. I can’t count the number of times my team mates cheered on Snuggles because he was rezzing them after I sent him to rez them (they were defeated).

Now I will never use that S&R again. Period. It takes too long for the S&R to activate to get to the down player unless they are RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOWNED PLAYER. Seen that happen way too many times. You also have to hit it pretty much WHEN the player goes down. It’s too late if you don’t hit it immediately.

Just another reason I’m leveling up a warrior now for dungeon runs.

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