Guild Wars 2

i find this annoying that condi food got nurfed to 20% while i was relying on that to boost this trait to 100% 3seconds to 6seconds.

anymore investment by changing weapons to condi duration is pointless and it will start diminishing returns in the Value of effect dps from both loss of damage stats and duration increase would only lower dps.

its not much i’ve lost 0.5seconds half a tick from this trait so i’d suggest Anet buff this trait base line to 4seconds so you’d get 6seconds at 50% condi duration meaning runes are required for it and going for 100% bleed Durations would require runes+sigils and a 10% on a weapon making that investment of Duration turn the bleed into 8seconds.

rather than 6seconds at max duration investment.

ether way this trait is effected by the food changes quite a lot as its a chance on crit too , take up more stats to be effective.

Do not ask for that change. The WILL put an ICD on it.

Run a +40% bleed/condi runeset.
Still run condi food, 20%
Think about utility 10%
Maybe giver weapons 20%

I wouldn’t use sigils with condi duration, sigils too important for other things.

Since I am dumping sword/torch for staff until I can make an informed decision if druid is trash instead of just crying it, I am probably going to run foodless since I already have 40% bleed duration with madking runes. 50% more I don’t think will really mean all that much.

they wont add a ICD on a 66% chance on crit Trait that would be a pointless addition to a trait that is a recurring effect on a low base duration, it was only good enough when you could reach 100% duration even then at 6seconds .

and in other cases Giver weapons are a no go for PvP ether, so you’d only be at what Krait runes give you + sigil of agony meaning 85% or 5.5seconds on the trait.

im mostly annoyed that this basic Trait does not reach effect levels unless you have , condi damage+durations+high crit hits and Rapid attacks which the condi weapons on this class are slow to stack and dont get high stacks unless everything is invested into bleeds.

it is too much investment for a adpet trait to make it work effectively , it should be something in addition to the weapon , not having to take a weapon to match the trait and i’ve heard the Arguement that SB works better with Sharpen edges but that only counts for flanks and if it has Sigil of earth only then it will stack quickly .

without the SB/sigil of earth the trait alone stacks so slow with the correct Stats being high enough.

meaning you’d have to trade crit hits for condi damage , or condi damage+duration for crit hits requiring full weapon investment and gear investment to just make this trait Effective .

while we see Warroirs and mesmer able to reach good Durations without needing to apply so much into 3 or more stats for a adept to work.

ages ago they buffed it from 2seconds to 3 , with 40% food in mind " because its base duration was too short and did not scale high enough to be effective "

now that foods changed its Lowered it again and is less effective at Scaling up , you won’t reach 1k bleeds on sharpening edges unless you are willing to Sacrifice everything to obtain a bleed of that level , while other classes can easly each 1k bleeds without full investments to weapons and gear .

my warroir with Sword and a mix match of dire+carrion gear gets stronger bleeds than this trait currently WITHOUT food or givers weapons( and i just noticed im also using Mad king runes Which means i’ve got 40% duration on my warroir pumping out 1.2k bleeds on sword and trait.

Have you looked into the new gear stats including Expertise? If you choose them you get a lot of additional condition duration. I’m not sure what exactly those stats are, but I’m sure there are ones that are great for Condi DMG builds.

Eirh.1439:

Have you looked into the new gear stats including Expertise? If you choose them you get a lot of additional condition duration. I’m not sure what exactly those stats are, but I’m sure there are ones that are great for Condi DMG builds.

I havnt seen one with a precision/condition dmg major. Sharpened edges would require a gear stat with those two as tops.

could use the new Vipers gear but then again that is Sacrficing stats to regain the duration on expertise , lower condi damage as standard just to regain lost Duration.

on a build over all , its a good gear choice .

but the issue is that sharpening edges having lost that 0.5 extra without having to use Givers+20% bleed agony sigil , how many crits can you fit in 0.5 with a quickness boost that trigger edges, 2-4 attacks , 2 trigger edges on a RF or Hunterscall i have a Vague idea that this overall loses 2-3 bleeds over the 12-16hits because the duration isn’t long enough which is a hit to this Traits DoT.

as justine said it requires duration and condi as the two top stats though it need crit hits high enough around 70% critical hits to keep effective sharpen edges to maintain a decent amount of bleeds on a target, even then it stacks only around 12-15bleeds while using 2x Rapid attacks or in combination with quickness.

the only other ways to add more bleeds is through pet , off – hand dagger or axe split blade being 12-14seconds on 5 bleeds (with trait this goes upto about 8-9 bleeds going on average critical hits Spotter+Fury) at around 65% buffed.

this will also require Quickdraw to maintain Sharpen edge bleeds through rotations which gives 18bleeds for the Remainder of the bleed duration lasting about 4 seconds after weapon swap using split blade right away again , one after the other to maintain 18 bleeds on perfect shotgun attack point blank range.

anything in addition to sharpen edges is a tempory boost and shouldnt be counted as maintained bleeds.

over all , sharpen edges has lost some of its Bleed maintaince lowing its max stack before extra bleeds no longer increase the stacks , though maybe now its not worth going for duration + condi damage but rather using High crits and quickness to apply said bleeds Consistantly and Rapidly aiming for higher stacks than stronger number of lower stacks.

i’ll find some Vipers Instriptions / recipes and try it out but i doubt it’ll fix the problem as it’ll be like 21 expertise = 1% duration and you’ll need 4-5 gear parts to recover 20% or 2 gear parts and a givers/vipers weapon.

and doubt the duration is worth the damage trade off , in the end its a loss of bleed dps regardless if i’d slot some viper gear/weapons.