Guild Wars 2

I’ve had the lover in my bank for some time now and have finally decided to go ahead and craft it. I’d say I am about 2/3 of the way there(maybe). Anywho….I want to make sure that it is something that I can use. So I started playing around with the idea of a bleed build and using might from signets+pet+warhorn to buff the condition dmg, and Runes of the Krait to buff the duration.

I know that bleed can only stack up to 25(and that is across everyone hitting the target)
So that means if Player A has 12 stacks of bleeds up, Player B can only put up 13(at least that’s how I think it works?) How ever I was thinking that if I am putting up longer lasting bleeds faster than everyone else, I would still have good portion of the bleeds up, that’s my theory anyways.

So playing around with gear, traits and so forth, this is what I came up with: clicky clicky

Testing on the dummy in the Mists i have seen ticks over 2k and on a Vet Giant in Cursed Shore I have seen close to 2k. And in groups where other people are applying bleeds, 1k ticks is still easy to achieve.

Couple things:

1. I was using RaO for extra 20% crit, but i feel that the entagle will help with CC and moar bleeds.

2. I use A/WH for several reasons, 5 provides more might, 1 provides might, 2 provides bleeds, and 4 crits alot and very very fast! 5 also helps with movement.

3. I use Krait runes for Bleed duration and +condition damage, but i feel the torment provided by the 6th rune is nice and cd is shorter than the elite cd anyways.

4. I am aware that a lot of WvW’ers us condi reduction food.

Lacking in Build
Condi removal, which is big problem, I just don’t know where exactly to bring it in.

So I ask:

Where do i bring in condi removal?

Is my theory about faster and longer lasting bleeds viable or am I just way off base?

In regards to where I would be using this build, well with the fact that I want to be using my lovely Rainbow Unicorns to kill things, I’d say…everywhere(i know that in dungeons that POWER is King, but i figure that swapping a few traits and a set of different gear, I should be fine as a power build, No killing Lupy in 5 seconds or anything…but that isn’t all that fun IMHO.

I am open to any advice up to and including other SB build Ideas. The point is to be able to use the legendary after I use it. I leveled with a similar build which I am sure is outdated, but it was fun while I used it, and I would like to be able to use something similar. Liru’s Crit Synergy Build

Edit
I should also add this, For WvW I usually Roam or do Sentry/Keep Guarding. I know that in Open World PvE anything pretty much works. and as I said in dungeons Power is better than Condition(but i figure I can swap gear and traits to make a viable build for guild dungeons, which is all I ever do.)

Any thoughts are much appreciated!

I know it seems like a crazy concept to use a Shortbow atm, considering the LB buffs. But even i , who is in favor of the buff, don’t expect it to last. Plus as I stated in my OP, I have a precursor, and want to find a build to use it with.

Again, any input is greatly appreciated, good bad or otherwise, my feelings wont be hurt!

You should keep dungeon and wvw set separate.

PVE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGUQgncRlMY&list=UUXb625IE1vjylfTRW3-B6Lg

For wvw, you should definitely pick up condition cleansing. Two most popular traits for condition cleansing are empathic bond or survival of the fittest.

Thanx for the input and the video link(even though I already seen it. Brazil is a good player and I DO watch his stuff when it comes to dungeons, and I know that LB>SB in dungeons, even before the buffs.

Any thoughts on the build in the OP or suggestions/changes? Anyone?

I did some browsing of builds and i did find This

I was running it last night after the long wait getting in to WvW after reset. However i found myself favoring the Longbow, and just finding myself good positions to snipe at people in the blob, dumping barrage in the middle of them (much loots!)

I was think that with a little bit more suitability i could main the sb and stick with the the zerg instead of moving outside of it, but maybe that is not possible. It would be nice if the SB had some sort of bounce/ricochet or even a trait that would do it. Makes sense right? (think Legolas in Helms Deep!!!) Then again, we have that with the MH axe, and with the might buff on hit…against a group…its just…wow.

Also just want to reiterate that my goal is to find a build using Shortbow as main weapon, even it is only like..80% of the time.

Hi, @Fester.9328
SB\GS is my favorit weapon set, i’m still using it even after patch. I love SB, it used to be described as the “ultimate” ranger weapon which includes good raw damge, condi damge, evade, soft cc(cripple) and hard cc(daze/stun).
I play mainly solo wvw roaming/duling and spvp and i have SB builds for both, moerover, becuse SB is an hyprid weapon i can easily creatr over 10 viable builds around it. Plz give some pointers: 1) main porpuse of the build(wvw/pvp/pve open world etc..) 2) play style and favorit secondry weapon(lean more toward condi or power. 3)gear restrictions.
to start i’ll twik the bleed sb you posted above, wasnt sure if you want to develop it or its just an idea. And ya, condies stuck on eachother with other playes so what you described is true.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNEQNBlODbkQlWWrYxgFqWDIIULDAtrhktFYmAVQGfUhsJ-TVSEABvpbggLAQgKBB4gAcp6PD8AAi4IAklyvW2fQUQYE-w
You need to remember that with SB you dont have to safty of distance like in LB builds and your damge is more moderate and constant and less bursty . Your build is very greedy and very glassy, i did some midifcations to add survivebility(armor/hp/condi removal, stun breaker and evade). I left the 4 trait in marksmenship, you can take spotter/piercing arrows/sigent mastery all good options. You can also play wiith SOTH and change to SOS, SOR etc..
Your food option is: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Prickly_Pear_Pie

Thank you so much! I was actually looking into making a celestial set of armor, only need 3 more insignia for the exotic set. As i’ve said before, I dont need, nor want, to be #1Ranger NA or anywhere or kill Lupi in 5 seconds. I enjoy good fights, 1-2 shot kills are not enjoyable to me(maybe that is why I don’t play sPvP very much :/ )

As for you questions:

1: I play everything, and am one of those people who wants to play everything on my main. Truth be told my alts is…another ranger. Really the only class I enjoy playing. I also understand that there is no One Build Fits all, especially not any one weapon set! And I have no problems carry around extra weapons, each for there own purpose. And with the need to swap weapons/traits out here and there, I often wondered if Celestial armor wouldn’t be best for me.

2: I like the range play style and really do not like melee. Now with that said, I don’t really like the long range fighting either. I often find myself in melee range using ranged weapons. I’d have to say my second favorite weapon set would be A/WH or at least A/x. I use to run a bunker build using A/T and S/D and often found myself favoring axe, and only using sword when things were on cd.

3:I don’t have any gear restrictions, I got max professions and have been slowly working towards ascended gear, and whatever i don’t have, I have no problem working towards it.

I looked over the changes you made and will definitely give it a go over the next few days, and will keep in touch if any questions come up.

Questions for you
With the buff to axes, might on hit, is there an alternative to the Sigil of Battle?
Would Omnomberry Ghost be fine till I can get the pies?

Thanks again sir!!

@Fester.9328
hi again,
After reading reading your comments i think the build i posted will suit your needs, atleast in wvw. The sb/a-h combo realy works here. With spotter, sufry and full buffed u’r almost at 90% crit cahnce. horn 4 + axe 2 synergise with sharpend adges for ALOT of bleeds burt( not to mention when you combo it with entangle-krait rune).
Thats BTW why you want the extra condi buff from food, it will set each bleed from sharpend adges to 4sec(100% bleed druration buff) with out it its only 3sec. The food i recommanded combine and condi duration with some life steal, the best of the 2 worlds.
Regarding the sigil of battle: Its a filler sigil, you can replace it with alot of other stuff(like geomancy/doom/air,strengh,genorosity etc..) the sigil of battle is 20sec might so it will give some support to your SB as well, te might from axe is on a realy short duration, you stop the axe “aa” and might will drop very fast. But like you saied other sigils might be better. After giving it more thoght, I think spotter is the best 4 trait in marksmenship, SOTW is best(compared to sos,sor) and you should take jungle spider as second pet(i put fern hound).
Tommrow i’ll post a pve build.

Thanks, I will adjust it!

Been running with this build all night, and its ok, I’ll stick with it.

Any way to put a Shortbow in a power build, and not rely on conditions much?

You can try my build, with the adjustments i added after patch(i like it alot). Just change the GS to axe/x . Its importent to note that when you go SB – axe-x in WVW you lack the mobility GS/sword-x give, so it can be hard to get out of dangerous situations.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNEQJAVRjEq0yaHLWsQ1aAAhaVA0OH23Yw9R0vjdKj6JSNB-TVCEAB2t/Amq/QwDAYLlgMp8zgLAgEHCg20FAwRAgUAlrMC-w

The GS in the build is more of a support weapon, you use it to runaway /block/stun+maul/ spam aa for evade etc…. most of the time you’r on SB.

Thanks for keeping up with this, really much appreciated. Ill give this build a shot too.

I have no problems using GS, its a fun weapon to use. My main concern is being somewhat decent with a SB. I’m still working on getting the Armor, currently I have Soldiers(PTV) I think it should do for now, only got 3 insignia to go for the bag of Celestial.